The Pikers Pit

Hi do people bother with oils for zander on rivers,or are they a waste of time,thought about injecting et eel oil in to my roach or would this attract more pike (which to be honest isnt a bad thing )

I personally wouldn't bother, but something I've considered doing is fishing a dead bait over halibut pellets. There has been way to many zeds caught by accident on pellets for it to be a coincidence.

Fish on.... wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09 2017 20:30 -

I personally wouldn't bother, but something I've considered doing is fishing a dead bait over halibut pellets. There has been way to many zeds caught by accident on pellets for it to be a coincidence.

+1 been doing his for quite some time , pva bag of pellets squirt oils into the bag attached to trebles along with the deadbait

Fish on.... wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09 2017 20:30 -

I personally wouldn't bother, but something I've considered doing is fishing a dead bait over halibut pellets. There has been way to many zeds caught by accident on pellets for it to be a coincidence.

have they been caught because they took the pellet or because they attacked small fish pecking at it and sucked the pellet in that way?

Fish on.... wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09 2017 20:30 -

I personally wouldn't bother, but something I've considered doing is fishing a dead bait over halibut pellets. There has been way to many zeds caught by accident on pellets for it to be a coincidence.

Did the same on quite a few occasions, just made so much sense, smells, attracting other fish etc and the result was......no difference at all!

Cheers ALan

might sound weird, but aniseed flavoured oil has worked good!

nordbeck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10 2017 20:40 -

might sound weird, but aniseed flavoured oil has worked good!

How did you stumble across that?

dannytaylor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10 2017 21:01 -

nordbeck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10 2017 20:40 -

might sound weird, but aniseed flavoured oil has worked good!

How did you stumble across that?

i think it was kev from the other pike forum mentioning it once. it caught my curiosity as it is also used in some additives for lures. illex nitro booster for example. so tried it out and caught on it, don't know if it was because of the oil of course, but it did not put them off and i caught on it.

You never know, aniseed works well as an "attractor" for other coarse fish....

Steven Whybrow wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09 2017 19:30 -

Hi do people bother with oils for zander on rivers,or are they a waste of time,thought about injecting et eel oil in to my roach or would this attract more pike (which to be honest isnt a bad thing )

Hi Steven. I think you'd be better off without the oil when zander fishing. Assuming you're dead baiting, try piercing the fish with a knife a few times, that WILL attract zander to your bait and always try to use mega fresh baits, even killed lives - biggest edge I know of when dead baiting for the spinney buggers that ... tight lines, Mark.

Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13 2017 13:44 -

Steven Whybrow wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09 2017 19:30 -

Hi do people bother with oils for zander on rivers,or are they a waste of time,thought about injecting et eel oil in to my roach or would this attract more pike (which to be honest isnt a bad thing )

Hi Steven. I think you'd be better off without the oil when zander fishing. Assuming you're dead baiting, try piercing the fish with a knife a few times, that WILL attract zander to your bait and always try to use mega fresh baits, even killed lives - biggest edge I know of when dead baiting for the spinney buggers that ... tight lines, Mark.

+1 a freshly killed natural bait punctured especially around the stomach area and perhaps headless is a top choice for me .

I heard many years ago that Archie Braddock had a bit of success flavouring his deadbaits for Zeds.

Fentiger01 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14 2017 22:28 -

I heard many years ago that Archie Braddock had a bit of success flavouring his deadbaits for Zeds.

Archie flavoured everything

I must admit,
I was a fan of Archie's flavours
Nice man too

Happy Hayes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15 2017 20:56 -

I must admit,
I was a fan of Archie's flavours
Nice man too

went a bit mad some years back and started advocating nylon for pike traces

made a few bob out of renaming stuff from indian deli's and flogging it as a wonder flavour

Kev Berry wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15 2017 21:26 -

Happy Hayes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15 2017 20:56 -

I must admit,
I was a fan of Archie's flavours
Nice man too

went a bit mad some years back and started advocating nylon for pike traces

made a few bob out of renaming stuff from indian deli's and flogging it as a wonder flavour

Didn't know that Kev
A few years back when I was in to making my own baits i spoke to him once or twice
He come across as a nice guy and knowledgeable to.
Funnily enough a friend of mine rang recently saying he had 10kg of boilies going (raj splce ) I think.
And Archie had something to do with the making of them

He wrote a book 'Fantastic Feeder Fishing' a good few years back which I used to have in my collection with his theories on additives with bait.

Happy Hayes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15 2017 22:52 -

Kev Berry wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15 2017 21:26 -

Happy Hayes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15 2017 20:56 -

I must admit,
I was a fan of Archie's flavours
Nice man too

went a bit mad some years back and started advocating nylon for pike traces

made a few bob out of renaming stuff from indian deli's and flogging it as a wonder flavour

Didn't know that Kev
A few years back when I was in to making my own baits i spoke to him once or twice
He come across as a nice guy and knowledgeable to.
Funnily enough a friend of mine rang recently saying he had 10kg of boilies going (raj splce ) I think.
And Archie had something to do with the making of them

first time I met him was when I was doing a recce and found him with Colin Dyson on THAT pit, they were on the spit and Archie was just landing a 23.
Putting it bluntly I have never seen such incompetence in my life from what were supposedly 2 top pike anglers.
I ended up taking the forceps off Archie and removing the single VB double he was using, -----then the photographs, he dropped the fish THREE times from a standing up position into a few inches of water.
Wasn't impressed.

I'm hoping the fish survived

Happy Hayes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16 2017 13:18 -

I'm hoping the fish survived

swam off but who knows

Thanks for the replys,the reason ive asked about oils is ive bought a few bottles of et smelt oil for piking but as ive decided to spend a full winter zander fishing I thought id use it up...cheers ste