Lures for bonito

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Lures for bonito

Post by cookiesdaughtersdad » Thu Mar 09 2017 08:24

Off to the canaries again in a couple of week and will be trying for these little tunas from the shore again.
Want to take a decent selection of lures with me and so was wondering if anyone has suggestions on what to buy and where on the net to find them?

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Post by fergie68 » Thu Mar 09 2017 08:35

What island Alan. ❓
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Post by cookiesdaughtersdad » Thu Mar 09 2017 08:47

Lanzarote mate.

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Post by edbeef » Thu Mar 09 2017 08:50

Good luck on the trip, I went out on a boat from Puerto del Carmen but we didn't catch anything on the troll. Just caught wrasse when drifting.
Still a nice day out though

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Post by dannytaylor » Thu Mar 09 2017 09:53

I've always struggled when I've tried lure fishing from the shore on the canaries. The only thing I ever caught was what a local skipper told me where wolf fish ??? They where small and took mepps spinners of all things. Always done better float fishing for the sea bream and mullet. Had small tuna trolling on the boats off there.

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Post by Mike J » Thu Mar 09 2017 11:56

Bonitos are a member of the mackerel family and will go for anything mackies like, ie; 2-4" long, goes fast and is shiny. My deckie catches them for bait using a tea spoon handle dropped in the prop wash.
They have a soft mouth full of small sharp teeth so a small treble and a bite protector (section of biro tube) is essential.
Your problem is it isn't the season for them yet, they are more a summer/autumn fish, yes I know you can go trolling for them but the locals will take you fishing for anything you want if you pay them.
First stop should be the fish market so see whats being caught, that will give you an indication of what to target.

Good fun is a tele rod and float fish (as above) for bream - prawn/strip of meat bait, or best of all use a 2" white ragalou sandeel float spun slowly along the rocks. First light and last knockings on a rising tide are always the best.

Biggest problem with all the Atlantic islands is spear gunning with an aqualung is legal so all the big resident fish have been removed long ago, leaving just the small, the uneatable and the pelagic.

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Post by cookiesdaughtersdad » Fri Mar 10 2017 08:54

dannytaylor wrote:
I've always struggled when I've tried lure fishing from the shore on the canaries. The only thing I ever caught was what a local skipper told me where wolf fish ??? They where small and took mepps spinners of all things. Always done better float fishing for the sea bream and mullet. Had small tuna trolling on the boats off there.
Only really tried hard for them once Danny, cast literally hundreds and hundreds of times and caught two, suddenly all those casts became worth while, such strong fish :afraid:
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Bonitos are a member of the mackerel family and will go for anything mackies like, ie; 2-4" long, goes fast and is shiny. My deckie catches them for bait using a tea spoon handle dropped in the prop wash.
They have a soft mouth full of small sharp teeth so a small treble and a bite protector (section of biro tube) is essential.
Your problem is it isn't the season for them yet, they are more a summer/autumn fish, yes I know you can go trolling for them but the locals will take you fishing for anything you want if you pay them.
First stop should be the fish market so see whats being caught, that will give you an indication of what to target.

Good fun is a tele rod and float fish (as above) for bream - prawn/strip of meat bait, or best of all use a 2" white ragalou sandeel float spun slowly along the rocks. First light and last knockings on a rising tide are always the best.

Biggest problem with all the Atlantic islands is spear gunning with an aqualung is legal so all the big resident fish have been removed long ago, leaving just the small, the uneatable and the pelagic.

Have fun.
Thanks for that Mike,
I always though that bonito were a small tuna and so had a look (google face), they are a member of the Scombridae family https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonito
I caught some (two) one winter in Feb so there is always a chance even if not the best time.
Thanks for the informative reply mate :thumbs:

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Post by The Omen » Fri Mar 10 2017 09:39

I fish these pretty exclusively out in Fuerteventura. http://www.artoffishing.co.uk/lures/due ... minnow-110

If you've been the canarys before you will know the wind is relentless, these cast like a missile.

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Post by Mike J » Fri Mar 10 2017 09:43

If you want to eat any, land as quick as possible then slash across the tail root and insert a blade behind the pectoral to bleed it out.
Bake cutlets on a 1" thick ring of onion (it draws the blood out) allow to cool as it improves the flavour, then mix with salad and a dash of balsamic - yum yum :grin:
(you dont eat the onion)!

The Spanish name is Cerda pronounced Serda incase you want to make enquires with the locals.

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Post by cookiesdaughtersdad » Sat Mar 18 2017 10:16

The Omen wrote:
I fish these pretty exclusively out in Fuerteventura. http://www.artoffishing.co.uk/lures/due ... minnow-110

If you've been the canarys before you will know the wind is relentless, these cast like a missile.
Thanks for the link, lures ordered :thumbs:

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Post by fishandy » Sun Mar 19 2017 21:40

just back from fueteventura caught sod all fished la Salinas at caleta one of best spots on the islands aram at gone fishing told me there are millions of 4 inch mackeral in the sea hes never seen so many and this has drawn all the bons out to sea they are normally feeding inshore on the boga but not with all these mackies about best lures I have caught on are duel hardcore sinking minnow 110 size and 50 to 60 gram jigs its possible to cast into 50 meters of water from the rocks so lures with a bit of weight are best go on to the world seafishing site and make contact with blumeeni hes a lure angling nut and also a good geezer who fishes every day hes very helpful and will probably offer you a trip out with him hes based in playa blanca where the coast claims lives every single year if you don't know the tides and times to fish its easy to get swept away good look the fishing can be out of this world on the right day

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Post by Kevin O'Keeffe » Tue Sep 24 2019 12:30

Off to Fueteventura next week.... Got a few flashy silver spoons, a few lipped minnows and some top waters packed.

Bonito.... bite off protection. Worth using wire??

Staying in Caleta des Fuste. Hoping to find a few and some decent bream. Anything else worth targeting in the area? Spots worth heading for away from the locality.
Will have a car to go further.
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Post by Mike J » Wed Sep 25 2019 08:59

Kevin O'Keeffe wrote:
Off to Fueteventura next week.... Got a few flashy silver spoons, a few lipped minnows and some top waters packed.

Bonito.... bite off protection. Worth using wire??

Staying in Caleta des Fuste. Hoping to find a few and some decent bream. Anything else worth targeting in the area? Spots worth heading for away from the locality.
Will have a car to go further.


For bite protection from all small tunas use a 3" section of biro tube on the leader as above. Just slide it on and forget.
Using this system on 20lb tackle and fluoro my deckie fought a 50kg yellowfin for nearly an hour before it broke him.
Take a few floats and small 10-14s hooks for the bream and remember your leads.

There will be squid around now so source a few jigs when your there, bright for daytime, dark for dusk.
Ensure you buy the jigs with a lead keel below the head, these are casting jigs and you can have great sport with light braid and a tippy rod.
When a squid takes the rod just loads up, like youve snagged a lump of weed, nothing harse or aggressive, just reel in gently with a soft drag, they take with their tentacles but swim the opposite so your actually reeling them in backwards.
The same jig design can also be fished under a float and ball lead.
Lift any squid clear of the water is one clean manouver and drop into a bucket with a wet rag on top, and dont be tempted to have a look until its dead, nor allow the beast to swing around on the line when its out of the water, the ink jet is between the tentacles and will go over a metre :laughs:
(If you do get inked wash it off immediately, it dries v fast and staines badly).

NB Reel and lure bodies in your carry-on, spools and hooks in the hold.

AND whatever you do wear your b sunnies! :cool:

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Post by Kevin O'Keeffe » Thu Sep 26 2019 13:49

Thanks Mike, think I might give the squid a miss lol.
Floats and leads packed... need to get some smaller hooks in tonight then!
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Post by Kevin O'Keeffe » Wed Oct 09 2019 13:52

Some success but only when out on the boat trolling. 15 skip jacks to 8 kilo and lost another 8-10. Good fun on lighter gear. Best rod was the short line 30ft off the back of the boat. We had dolphins around us feeding most of the day. My mate had a skipjack snatched by a dolphin!!! Odd the half he got back was the back end with the hook in the flank? Glad he didn't hook flipper... but she nicked the head end and gave him a bit of a run around for 10 mins....lol.

High winds for 4 days meant it was tough going. And we only got out once.

Not a single fish on lures off the rocks. A few follows but only from big garfish.

Bait fishing we caught plenty of small Wrasse and bits along the rocks. I just felt there was nothing bigger there tbh. Over fished possibly. We didn't venture too far from Caletta de Fuste.

My liver took a pasting though!! Those "Sorry we cant go today lads" days where great :o)
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Post by Mike J » Sun Oct 13 2019 10:52

Kevin O'Keeffe wrote:
Some success but only when out on the boat trolling. 15 skip jacks to 8 kilo and lost another 8-10. Good fun on lighter gear. Best rod was the short line 30ft off the back of the boat. We had dolphins around us feeding most of the day. My mate had a skipjack snatched by a dolphin!!! Odd the half he got back was the back end with the hook in the flank? Glad he didn't hook flipper... but she nicked the head end and gave him a bit of a run around for 10 mins....lol.

High winds for 4 days meant it was tough going. And we only got out once.

Not a single fish on lures off the rocks. A few follows but only from big garfish.

Bait fishing we caught plenty of small Wrasse and bits along the rocks. I just felt there was nothing bigger there tbh. Over fished possibly. We didn't venture too far from Caletta de Fuste.

My liver took a pasting though!! Those "Sorry we cant go today lads" days where great :o)


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Pleased you had some sport Kev.

How much did they charge you btw?

The best lure to catch the big Gars is with a shredded length if nylon cord and no hook :thumbs:

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Post by Kevin O'Keeffe » Mon Oct 14 2019 09:28

6hrs was 500 Euro with tackle included. It was a bit over gunned for my liking but a 6ft jig rod with a penn slammer in the engine wash was the rod that nailed the most fish and good fun.
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Post by Mike J » Mon Oct 14 2019 09:43

Kevin O'Keeffe wrote:
6hrs was 500 Euro with tackle included. It was a bit over gunned for my liking but a 6ft jig rod with a penn slammer in the engine wash was the rod that nailed the most fish and good fun.
Cheers Kev.
It was for a comparison.
The norm for an 8hr day offshore €7-800 in a 12m boat, no end time if your hooked up, start when you like, food and gear inc. and less than half for a 7m.

The problem with offshore trolling is you never really know whats gonna grab the damn thing so you load for bear even when chasing squirrels.

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Post by Kevin O'Keeffe » Mon Oct 14 2019 09:55

Diesel engines mean I am regularly over the side heaving Mike.... I don't get bad in florida with the petrol engine boat we use but a lung full of the diesel exhaust and the swell see's me Green at the gills lol. At least it made my mates day :o)
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Post by JohnCopeman » Sun Nov 24 2019 11:46

Had them on bigger Rapala Rattlin Raps- the 1 oz lipless Crankbaits in chrome and quite a few on 10cm Yo Zuri L Jack Minnows in blue. Fight quite hard.

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