Using your lure rod as a light deadbaiting rod ?

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davelumb wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05 2022 08:15 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05 2022 07:49 -
davelumb wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04 2022 22:13 -
A rod is a rod. What you use it for has nothing to do what's written on it. It's all about how it copes with casting your preferred lures/rigs and how it plays and lands your target species.

I have a heavy 10ft (10/11 wt) fly blank built up as a floater rod for my rare carp fishing sessions. It does a grand job. I've built a couple of lighter ones up as worming rods for a mate, and if the blanks were still available I'd have a set for myself to build as tench rods.

If a rod feels right to you, then it is right.
Well coming to things late after many years away from coarse fishing I have been very impressed with the quality of tackle about today for a reasonable price . You might think that some of the stuff I am using is very low quality but this summer I have done OK fishing for tench , carp , bream etc with bog standard shakespeare feeder rods and also 30 year old daiwa swingtip glass rods .

I am purely a pleasure fisherman .

With regard to lure fishing I looked online for advice before I discovered the pikers pit and when I said as in my coarse fishing I was a jack of all trades and wanted fit for all purpose rods I was directed to moderate and moderate fast action rods such as the abu tormentor , shimano catana , shimano vengeance and shimano xt . All of these are 40 quid and under but in my novice view are fine . The question is are these sort of price range rods going to be OK to use to gently lob out a small sprat under a pike Bob in the same way more expensive rods may be able to do so ?

I have used the shimano xt both as a spinning rod and for light deadbaiting but being as I have cash in the attic so to speak is it worth getting a specialist light deadbaiting rod ?

I have the feeling after what you old heads are saying is that it probably isn't
"The question is are these sort of price range rods going to be OK to use to gently lob out a small sprat under a pike Bob in the same way more expensive rods may be able to do so ? "

The price range makes no difference. As you say, the cheap rods are working for you. So long as their action/power is suited to deadbaiting then they'll still work for you. Give one a try and see how it goes.
I was using my shimano vengeance 10 to 35 g 9 footer was lobbing out a small sprat at the end of last season

It's a moderate fast action rod . Apart from a bit of snatching on release it was OK but I think a moderate medium action rod would be suitable in the cast and in setting hooks and playing . I have no idea how it will handle a big fish though πŸ€”
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I've a pair of 10ft 2.75lb pikeflex - brilliant rods for float-fishing small/medium baits at close to mid range. I also use them for Eel and Carp fishing. Good wobbling rods too.
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Sebas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:18 -
I've a pair of 10ft 2.75lb pikeflex, they're Brilliant rods for fishing with small/medium baits at close range.
Wasn't it you that used a shimano xt ?
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Taffypiker wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:21 -
Sebas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:18 -
I've a pair of 10ft 2.75lb pikeflex, they're Brilliant rods for fishing with small/medium baits at close range.
Wasn't it you that used a shimano xt ?
Still do πŸ™‚
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Sebas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:29 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:21 -
Sebas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:18 -
I've a pair of 10ft 2.75lb pikeflex, they're Brilliant rods for fishing with small/medium baits at close range.
Wasn't it you that used a shimano xt ?
Still do πŸ™‚
That's it , 8 foot fx xt , 10 to 30 g , you used it for all your spinning and light deadbaiting if I remember

Certainly for less than 30 quid you can't go wrong but I wouldn't want to thump out a bait with them
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Taffypiker wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:39 -
Sebas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:29 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:21 -
Sebas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:18 -
I've a pair of 10ft 2.75lb pikeflex, they're Brilliant rods for fishing with small/medium baits at close range.
Wasn't it you that used a shimano xt ?
Still do πŸ™‚
That's it , 8 foot fx xt , 10 to 30 g , you used it for all your spinning and light deadbaiting if I remember

Certainly for less than 30 quid you can't go wrong but I wouldn't want to thump out a bait with them
Never used it for deadbaiting, but livebaiting for Perch.
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Sebas wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07 2022 00:22 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:39 -
Sebas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:29 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:21 -
Sebas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:18 -
I've a pair of 10ft 2.75lb pikeflex, they're Brilliant rods for fishing with small/medium baits at close range.
Wasn't it you that used a shimano xt ?
Still do πŸ™‚
That's it , 8 foot fx xt , 10 to 30 g , you used it for all your spinning and light deadbaiting if I remember

Certainly for less than 30 quid you can't go wrong but I wouldn't want to thump out a bait with them
Never used it for deadbaiting, but livebaiting for Perch.
Nor me but I think it would be fine
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Taffypiker wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07 2022 13:00 -
Sebas wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07 2022 00:22 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:39 -
Sebas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:29 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:21 -
Sebas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:18 -
I've a pair of 10ft 2.75lb pikeflex, they're Brilliant rods for fishing with small/medium baits at close range.
Wasn't it you that used a shimano xt ?
Still do πŸ™‚
That's it , 8 foot fx xt , 10 to 30 g , you used it for all your spinning and light deadbaiting if I remember

Certainly for less than 30 quid you can't go wrong but I wouldn't want to thump out a bait with them
Never used it for deadbaiting, but livebaiting for Perch.
Nor me but I think it would be fine
I reckon they've got the action for it, one of the heavier versions should do the job.
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Sebas wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07 2022 20:22 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07 2022 13:00 -
Sebas wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07 2022 00:22 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:39 -
Sebas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:29 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:21 -
Sebas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06 2022 23:18 -
I've a pair of 10ft 2.75lb pikeflex, they're Brilliant rods for fishing with small/medium baits at close range.
Wasn't it you that used a shimano xt ?
Still do πŸ™‚
That's it , 8 foot fx xt , 10 to 30 g , you used it for all your spinning and light deadbaiting if I remember

Certainly for less than 30 quid you can't go wrong but I wouldn't want to thump out a bait with them
Never used it for deadbaiting, but livebaiting for Perch.
Nor me but I think it would be fine
I reckon they've got the action for it, one of the heavier versions should do the job.
Both the fx xt and the vengeance , a few quid more are , I think , very strong solid rods for the price

I have a xt in the 10 to 30 for general spinning

And a vengeance in the 3 to 21 for trout but if a pike picks up my spinner I have dealt with them
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Taffypiker wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02 2022 11:21 -
I messed about with the idea of getting a specialist drennan deadbaiting rod in the summer ready for this October but in the end I didn't bother .

My deatbaiting after advice on here is mostly floatfished small sprat with a small Bob float at close to medium range .

Last season I used 9ft Shimano Vengeance and Shimano FX XT rods

They are both entry level pokey medium fast spinning rods but I feel they are ok for what I do .

If I was in the market for a light to medium deadbaiting rod what would you suggest or am I being a tackle tart ?

I am not thumping half a mackerel out 60 yards
Whatever set up be careful with bait fishing Sprats. Pike easily wolf them down.
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Senojbor wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11 2022 00:32 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02 2022 11:21 -
I messed about with the idea of getting a specialist drennan deadbaiting rod in the summer ready for this October but in the end I didn't bother .

My deatbaiting after advice on here is mostly floatfished small sprat with a small Bob float at close to medium range .

Last season I used 9ft Shimano Vengeance and Shimano FX XT rods

They are both entry level pokey medium fast spinning rods but I feel they are ok for what I do .

If I was in the market for a light to medium deadbaiting rod what would you suggest or am I being a tackle tart ?

I am not thumping half a mackerel out 60 yards
Whatever set up be careful with bait fishing Sprats. Pike easily wolf them down.
More so than say a herring or Mackeral or roach ?
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Taffypiker wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11 2022 10:21 -
Senojbor wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11 2022 00:32 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02 2022 11:21 -
I messed about with the idea of getting a specialist drennan deadbaiting rod in the summer ready for this October but in the end I didn't bother .

My deatbaiting after advice on here is mostly floatfished small sprat with a small Bob float at close to medium range .

Last season I used 9ft Shimano Vengeance and Shimano FX XT rods

They are both entry level pokey medium fast spinning rods but I feel they are ok for what I do .

If I was in the market for a light to medium deadbaiting rod what would you suggest or am I being a tackle tart ?

I am not thumping half a mackerel out 60 yards
Whatever set up be careful with bait fishing Sprats. Pike easily wolf them down.
More so than say a herring or Mackeral or roach ?
Depends on the size of dead baits TAFF. Sprat are about 3" I'd prefer something a bit bigger bud.
As for lure rods rods used for bait fishing - why not if you don't want to buy another rod, it would do the job.
I've caught both grilse and pike unintentionally while trout fishing on #8 and #6 weight fly rods :thumbs:
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Senojbor wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11 2022 11:17 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11 2022 10:21 -
Senojbor wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11 2022 00:32 -
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02 2022 11:21 -
I messed about with the idea of getting a specialist drennan deadbaiting rod in the summer ready for this October but in the end I didn't bother .

My deatbaiting after advice on here is mostly floatfished small sprat with a small Bob float at close to medium range .

Last season I used 9ft Shimano Vengeance and Shimano FX XT rods

They are both entry level pokey medium fast spinning rods but I feel they are ok for what I do .

If I was in the market for a light to medium deadbaiting rod what would you suggest or am I being a tackle tart ?

I am not thumping half a mackerel out 60 yards
Whatever set up be careful with bait fishing Sprats. Pike easily wolf them down.
More so than say a herring or Mackeral or roach ?
Depends on the size of dead baits TAFF. Sprat are about 3" I'd prefer something a bit bigger bud.
As for lure rods rods used for bait fishing - why not if you don't want to buy another rod, it would do the job.
I've caught both grilse and pike unintentionally while trout fishing on #8 and #6 weight fly rods :thumbs:
The heavier lure rods I have come with plenty of poke

As for 3 inch sprats that I bait I feel comfortable using and its mostly small pike I get but you never know
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