First one on a Burt
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First one on a Burt
I must admit to a few “classic” lures in my collection that I’ve never caught on.
I got a bit carried away at a Lurefair a few years back, hearing Eric Edwards’ mantra of “big lures for big pike”, and stocked up at the secondhand stall. Bought a few more since, but apart from successes with Miuras mice, ratio of fish caught to money spent, has been way inferior to smaller lures, so they have tended to gather dust.
Netted a lovely 26 from a drain for my mate Tony on deadbait last week (whilst I blanked trying for tench!), so thought I ought to give the big guns a go in my last session of the season.
No monsters, but pleased to christen both a Burt, with one of 8 and this 14; and a Dave Greenwood Big Dipper – with a couple of jacks scarcely bigger than the lure!
Nice end to my season despite foul weather.
I got a bit carried away at a Lurefair a few years back, hearing Eric Edwards’ mantra of “big lures for big pike”, and stocked up at the secondhand stall. Bought a few more since, but apart from successes with Miuras mice, ratio of fish caught to money spent, has been way inferior to smaller lures, so they have tended to gather dust.
Netted a lovely 26 from a drain for my mate Tony on deadbait last week (whilst I blanked trying for tench!), so thought I ought to give the big guns a go in my last session of the season.
No monsters, but pleased to christen both a Burt, with one of 8 and this 14; and a Dave Greenwood Big Dipper – with a couple of jacks scarcely bigger than the lure!
Nice end to my season despite foul weather.
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Re: First one on a Burt
Nicely done, Peter. Work has ruled out my hoped-for last chance session
Pullbaits tend to be overlooked in the UK for some reason, but they catch their fair share and offer something a little different to the more widely used glidebaits.
Pullbaits tend to be overlooked in the UK for some reason, but they catch their fair share and offer something a little different to the more widely used glidebaits.
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Re: First one on a Burt
peteren wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 14:45 -Nice one PeteI must admit to a few “classic” lures in my collection that I’ve never caught on.
I got a bit carried away at a Lurefair a few years back, hearing Eric Edwards’ mantra of “big lures for big pike”, and stocked up at the secondhand stall. Bought a few more since, but apart from successes with Miuras mice, ratio of fish caught to money spent, has been way inferior to smaller lures, so they have tended to gather dust.
Netted a lovely 26 from a drain for my mate Tony on deadbait last week (whilst I blanked trying for tench!), so thought I ought to give the big guns a go in my last session of the season.
No monsters, but pleased to christen both a Burt, with one of 8 and this 14; and a Dave Greenwood Big Dipper – with a couple of jacks scarcely bigger than the lure!
Nice end to my season despite foul weather.
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Re: First one on a Burt
Well done Peter. Just got my first burt recently and have yet to christen it.
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Re: First one on a Burt
Jack H wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 22:44 -Hope it works! I have several that I've had to get the drill out for because they sank. A sinking Burt isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they're not supposed to do that.Well done Peter. Just got my first burt recently and have yet to christen it.
Jack
It's a very good design, but production tolerances aren't wonderful, so you get a crazy amount of variation for a plastic lure.
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Re: First one on a Burt
Love a burt. Well done. All the encouragement you need is a few fish on one and you’ll be keen on them for life
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Re: First one on a Burt
Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 23:08 -My only 2 were seconhand from Lurefair and look "tuned".Jack H wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 22:44 -Hope it works! I have several that I've had to get the drill out for because they sank. A sinking Burt isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they're not supposed to do that.Well done Peter. Just got my first burt recently and have yet to christen it.
Jack
It's a very good design, but production tolerances aren't wonderful, so you get a crazy amount of variation for a plastic lure.
Slow rise / float nose down; dive on the pull.
Always look a bit inactive to me, bar the wiggly tail - but as Dave Pugh and others have said, real baitfish don't generally wiggle around as much as most lures...
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Re: First one on a Burt
I like floating shallow diving plugs - solid or jointed - for over weed & shallow water.
Vary the retrieve speed with frequent stops & sudden pulls to vary the action.
Work well for bass too.
Various sizes including some very small ones that chub love.
Riverwise can be allowed to float into places that can't easily be cast into then start the retrieve once in position
Vary the retrieve speed with frequent stops & sudden pulls to vary the action.
Work well for bass too.
Various sizes including some very small ones that chub love.
Riverwise can be allowed to float into places that can't easily be cast into then start the retrieve once in position
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Re: First one on a Burt
peteren wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13 2024 09:58 -Sounds like that one does pretty much what they should and that pike seems to approveSteve Dennington wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 23:08 -My only 2 were seconhand from Lurefair and look "tuned".Jack H wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 22:44 -Hope it works! I have several that I've had to get the drill out for because they sank. A sinking Burt isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they're not supposed to do that.Well done Peter. Just got my first burt recently and have yet to christen it.
Jack
It's a very good design, but production tolerances aren't wonderful, so you get a crazy amount of variation for a plastic lure.
Slow rise / float nose down; dive on the pull.
Always look a bit inactive to me, bar the wiggly tail - but as Dave Pugh and others have said, real baitfish don't generally wiggle around as much as most lures...
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Re: First one on a Burt
Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 23:08 -Jack H wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 22:44 -Hope it works! I have several that I've had to get the drill out for because they sank. A sinking Burt isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they're not supposed to do that.Well done Peter. Just got my first burt recently and have yet to christen it.
Jack
It's a very good design, but production tolerances aren't wonderful, so you get a crazy amount of variation for a plastic lure.
If they were all the same you'd only have to buy two or three!you get a crazy amount of variation for a plastic lure.
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davelumb wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13 2024 12:37 -That's true. I gave up on the weighted version for my last lot, figuring that I might as well get the unweighted and ballast them myself. It's much easier to add ballast to them than it is to remove it and I can at least be sure with the unweighted that they won't need a dirty great hole drilling in them to remove one of the lead balls...Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 23:08 -Jack H wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 22:44 -Hope it works! I have several that I've had to get the drill out for because they sank. A sinking Burt isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they're not supposed to do that.Well done Peter. Just got my first burt recently and have yet to christen it.
Jack
It's a very good design, but production tolerances aren't wonderful, so you get a crazy amount of variation for a plastic lure.If they were all the same you'd only have to buy two or three!you get a crazy amount of variation for a plastic lure.
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Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13 2024 14:04 -That was pretty much my approach.davelumb wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13 2024 12:37 -That's true. I gave up on the weighted version for my last lot, figuring that I might as well get the unweighted and ballast them myself. It's much easier to add ballast to them than it is to remove it and I can at least be sure with the unweighted that they won't need a dirty great hole drilling in them to remove one of the lead balls...Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 23:08 -Jack H wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 22:44 -Hope it works! I have several that I've had to get the drill out for because they sank. A sinking Burt isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they're not supposed to do that.Well done Peter. Just got my first burt recently and have yet to christen it.
Jack
It's a very good design, but production tolerances aren't wonderful, so you get a crazy amount of variation for a plastic lure.If they were all the same you'd only have to buy two or three!you get a crazy amount of variation for a plastic lure.
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Re: First one on a Burt
Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 23:08 -I’ve got confidence in them, having seen what other people do with them. Mines weighted in a rough ball park of where I want it to be, as out the box, it just seemed to skim just under the surface, not ideal for fishing a river that’s 2 foot upJack H wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12 2024 22:44 -Hope it works! I have several that I've had to get the drill out for because they sank. A sinking Burt isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they're not supposed to do that.Well done Peter. Just got my first burt recently and have yet to christen it.
Jack
It's a very good design, but production tolerances aren't wonderful, so you get a crazy amount of variation for a plastic lure.
Jack
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Jack H wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13 2024 22:19 -I've had a couple like that (weighted versions). They literally just skated sideways across the surface and wouldn't dive at all. It's one extreme to the other with Burts!I’ve got confidence in them, having seen what other people do with them. Mines weighted in a rough ball park of where I want it to be, as out the box, it just seemed to skim just under the surface, not ideal for fishing a river that’s 2 foot up
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Re: First one on a Burt
Burts and Dippers are often my go to lures. I work them as a team, burts 4/6ft down and dippers for the deeper water burts can’t get to. They are particularly good ive found when pike aren’t in a chasing mood as they hang that bit longer in the water giving the fish chance to strike without using too much energy to chase it
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Re: First one on a Burt
over rated lure got rid off mine.
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fishder wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17 2024 11:12 -Fair enough. I've had quite a few 20's on them over the years. I actually think pull baits are underrated, especially given it's a different kind of presentation to what most people will be chucking. There's one reservoir I fish where they nearly always get you a fish or two on tough days. Not a go to lure for me, but one I wouldn't want to leave at home either.over rated lure got rid off mine.
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