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Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by MarkBerrisford » Fri Mar 30 2018 13:59

How far behind the boat do you set them? And roughly what size works best? I am looking to use them on hire boats to slow my trolling speed when needed.
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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by royboy » Fri Mar 30 2018 14:20

I started with a 10/12 L bucket maybe 10` behind the boat . Does the job .

I soon moved on to a drift sock /Drogue .
I tie it just above the center of the boat , then if I want to drift and cast I don`t need to move it .
It gets me down to 1mph with a 50hp engine .
You can pick them up for £30 + .
Nice and handy as well as they can be rolled up and packed away .
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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by MarkBerrisford » Fri Mar 30 2018 14:35

I've got a drogue for drifting!! Never thought of leaving it out but when we've moved on the engine in the past it's been a nuisance so that's why I was thinking of the small bucket especially as they are usually small engines on the hire boats
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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by royboy » Fri Mar 30 2018 14:47

Just be sure to keep the rope on the drogue short enough so that it can`t reach the motor !

With the bucket you also have a bailer or a pot if needed .
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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by MarkBerrisford » Fri Mar 30 2018 14:53

Haha yes that's a good point! Think I'll try the bucket and see how it goes I can always use it to shove the drogue in when it's wet
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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by Andrew Croft » Fri Mar 30 2018 18:34

Didnt bill collins just put one over each side without having them trail behind the boat. I may be wrong i cant find the topic but it sounds way safer to me.
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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by fergie68 » Fri Mar 30 2018 19:20

James (trollscot) had a few old post office canvas sacks/mail bags that he put over the side to slow things down.
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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by c14r4n » Fri Mar 30 2018 20:52

Not sure the size is that important but pick one with a good strong handle. Mine's on a fairly short rope so I can easily reach over the side and lift it out when necessary.......see no advantage dragging one way behind the boat as it will only get in the way when you're playing a good fish.

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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by Ben » Sat Mar 31 2018 08:36

I have a drogue but never used it.

Pay says keep it on a length of rope short enough so that it can’t reach the motor, so that suggests you have it out of the side of the boat? Does that not make the boat pull to one side due to the drag??
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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by Mike J » Sat Mar 31 2018 08:48

From distant memory I remember somewhere seeing a baffle plate that the user had clamped to the engine leg.
It was positioned about 6" behind the prop and and had vertical slots and a sort of flip-up mechanism, presumably for when it was not required.

Shouldn't be to difficult to make your own.

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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by c14r4n » Sat Mar 31 2018 10:11

Yes, Bucket sits out the side and can't come into contact with the propeller. Never noticed it pulling to the side much to be honest.....

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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by royboy » Sat Mar 31 2018 10:23

The pull to the side is really negligible , It depends on the type of boat you have .
A long 17/19` narrow lake boat or a wider 16` aluminium , like my one .
The slightest adjustment to the tiller will keep you going where you want .

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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by Ben » Sat Mar 31 2018 10:52

Thanks Pat, will give it a try next time I’m out trolling
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Post by BillCollins » Sat Mar 31 2018 11:24

Andrew Croft wrote:
Didnt bill collins just put one over each side without having them trail behind the boat. I may be wrong i cant find the topic but it sounds way safer to me.
One each side on a shortish rope off the rowlock or rod holder. Cut a hole about 2''-3'' diameter in the bottom of the bucket, then it pulls along nice and smoothly.

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Post by Andrew Croft » Sat Mar 31 2018 11:28

BillCollins wrote:
Andrew Croft wrote:
Didnt bill collins just put one over each side without having them trail behind the boat. I may be wrong i cant find the topic but it sounds way safer to me.
One each side on a shortish rope off the rowlock or rod holder. Cut a hole about 2''-3'' diameter in the bottom of the bucket, then it pulls along nice and smoothly.
Are the holes to let fish out if they get caught in the buckets ?
Let me ask you one question. Is your money that good. Will it buy you forgiveness. Do you think that it could. I think you will find When your death takes its toll All the money you made Will never buy back your soul.

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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by MarkBerrisford » Sat Mar 31 2018 11:55

Andrew Croft wrote:
BillCollins wrote:
Andrew Croft wrote:
Didnt bill collins just put one over each side without having them trail behind the boat. I may be wrong i cant find the topic but it sounds way safer to me.
One each side on a shortish rope off the rowlock or rod holder. Cut a hole about 2''-3'' diameter in the bottom of the bucket, then it pulls along nice and smoothly.
Are the holes to let fish out if they get caught in the buckets ?
What are you calling shortish Bill? About 6ft?
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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by Neville Fickling » Sat Mar 31 2018 11:58

On a typical hire boat with a 4hp engine a single builders bucket will do the job attached on a short rope to the rowlock. bucket will hang about 3 feet away from the motor. On a big boat I've got two buckets attached to the safety rails on the front of the boat.

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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by BillCollins » Sat Mar 31 2018 12:12

MarkBerrisford wrote:
Andrew Croft wrote:
BillCollins wrote:
Andrew Croft wrote:
Didnt bill collins just put one over each side without having them trail behind the boat. I may be wrong i cant find the topic but it sounds way safer to me.
One each side on a shortish rope off the rowlock or rod holder. Cut a hole about 2''-3'' diameter in the bottom of the bucket, then it pulls along nice and smoothly.
Are the holes to let fish out if they get caught in the buckets ?
What are you calling shortish Bill? About 6ft?
About 3-4ft at most Mark, longer ropes and the buckets tend to roll in under the boat, not a problem but they can be noisy.

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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by MarkBerrisford » Sat Mar 31 2018 12:13

BillCollins wrote:
MarkBerrisford wrote:
Andrew Croft wrote:
BillCollins wrote:
Andrew Croft wrote:
Didnt bill collins just put one over each side without having them trail behind the boat. I may be wrong i cant find the topic but it sounds way safer to me.
One each side on a shortish rope off the rowlock or rod holder. Cut a hole about 2''-3'' diameter in the bottom of the bucket, then it pulls along nice and smoothly.
Are the holes to let fish out if they get caught in the buckets ?
What are you calling shortish Bill? About 6ft?
About 3-4ft at most Mark, longer ropes and the buckets tend to roll in under the boat, not a problem but they can be noisy.
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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

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Andrew Croft wrote:
BillCollins wrote:
Andrew Croft wrote:
Didnt bill collins just put one over each side without having them trail behind the boat. I may be wrong i cant find the topic but it sounds way safer to me.
One each side on a shortish rope off the rowlock or rod holder. Cut a hole about 2''-3'' diameter in the bottom of the bucket, then it pulls along nice and smoothly.
Are the holes to let fish out if they get caught in the buckets ?
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Post by Andrew Croft » Sat Mar 31 2018 12:53

:giggle:
Let me ask you one question. Is your money that good. Will it buy you forgiveness. Do you think that it could. I think you will find When your death takes its toll All the money you made Will never buy back your soul.

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Post by delsalmon » Sun Apr 01 2018 21:51

Any physics/maths boffins know how much it would slow you down?
I wouldn't have a breeze what speed my Yamaha 6hp pushes my terhi 385 at tick over?

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Post by royboy » Sun Apr 01 2018 23:27

I use the gps on my phone or you could download a speed app.
I use both along with the gps on my Lowrance .
All 3 show similar results whether I`m trolling or motoring .

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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by Carlperkins » Tue Apr 03 2018 12:15

Wouldn’t it be better to use an electric
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Post by MarkBerrisford » Tue Apr 03 2018 14:06

Carlperkins wrote:
Wouldn’t it be better to use an electric
probably Carl but for me its not something I do a lot of, so I can't really justify the expense of a motor and battery
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Post by Andrew Croft » Tue Apr 03 2018 14:16

Carlperkins wrote:
Wouldn’t it be better to use an electric
2 buckets are cheaper and lighter :grin:
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Post by Carlperkins » Tue Apr 03 2018 15:20

Saves on fuel
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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by barbed » Tue Apr 10 2018 19:11

One 3 gallon bucket slows down my 14ft Seastrike with a 6hp on tickover by about 0.5mph if I remember correctly

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Post by G Parky » Fri Apr 13 2018 15:39

I've used 2 different sizes depending on wind, sometimes 2 bu kegs at once, they don't need to be behind boat as they can interfere with lure rods. My buckets usually about level with back of boat. You will soon get hang of it, trial and error. Good luck

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Re: Bucket to slow trolling speed?

Post by nordbeck » Mon Apr 16 2018 13:23

Big fabric shopping bags like from ikea work perfectly.
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