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Electric outboards.

Post by Bob Watson » Mon Apr 26 2021 20:26

I recently took my canadian canoe out of retirement (off the back fence) and had it on the river for the day. I'm pondering with the idea of mounting an electric motor on it on a bolt on transom, the canoe is pointy at both ends and depending on one or two occupants the seating arrangements are reversible.

How does thrust lb's equate roughly to HP? if it does? and would a higher lb motor return more battery life for the same performance on a low power draw than a lower lb motor on a higher power draw?? If you follow me?

It's a 15' 6" coleman Ram X, any suggestions for adequate lb and motor to push it along would be welcome!!

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Post by suffolk si » Mon Apr 26 2021 20:57

Are you going on the river Bob? If youโ€™re going against a flow I would use a relatively powerful one . My buddy bought a water snake model, think it was 20lb and he reckons itโ€™s s**t even on Broadland ( slow paced) rivers. Maybe a minn Kota somewhere around 40lb thrust or so?

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Post by Carlperkins » Mon Apr 26 2021 21:08

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184794171685

Something like this
Variable speed and maximiser
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Post by Bob Watson » Mon Apr 26 2021 21:31

Thanks chaps.

Mostly on the river with an occasional trip to the lakes.

River is very slow moving, had a barrage installed in the 90's that turned a tidal stretch into basically a stillwater with a flow in flood or when the barrage is lowered to let water off.
Some wide areas can be hard paddling against the wind so just a back up labour saver if I've been paddling for a few hours and the going gets tough :wink:

My mate and myself had a little 10' walker bay dinghy that we used to use and he had a yamaha electric motor, I've forgotten the exact model and lb thrust but that thing pushed us all day on a couple of batteries. The tilt and battery indicator were the same as you posted Carl. I believe they're made by minn kota??

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Post by Carlperkins » Mon Apr 26 2021 21:50

Probably are
To be fair the maximiser is the game changer for batteries
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Post by Crackoff » Mon Apr 26 2021 21:55

Bob I have a 55lb Minn.Kota Variable speed Traxxis maximiser coming up for sale it came of Ben's boat with user manual.

I haven't got a price yet but if your interested I will put some photos up.

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Post by Bob Watson » Mon Apr 26 2021 21:57

Crackoff wrote: โ†‘
Bob I have a 55lb Minn.Kota Variable speed Traxxis maximiser coming up for sale it came of Ben's boat with user manual.

I haven't got a price yet but if your interested I will put some photos up.

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Just looked at the new prices Grant, probably over my budget even s/h

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Post by Bob Watson » Mon Apr 26 2021 21:58

Carlperkins wrote: โ†‘
Probably are
To be fair the maximiser is the game changer for batteries
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Post by Bob Watson » Thu Apr 29 2021 19:30

Just mooching some through old pics and found the motor we used to use.

Yamaha M26-E drive with maximiser. Like I said a couple of batteries lasted a full day and possibly 20 miles of river up and back down stream. So a maximiser is a must for me.

Checked the specs' and it's 55lb thrust.
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Post by Carlperkins » Thu Apr 29 2021 20:22

Iโ€™m using optima yellow tops and find they last very well.
Expensive for a battery but find it better than the normal 110s
An 85 lasts me all day on a bow mount
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Post by Bob Watson » Thu Apr 29 2021 20:52

Which model Carl?

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Post by Bob Watson » Thu Apr 29 2021 20:56

Just looked and they seem to be proper deep cycle batteries, leisure batteries can be grey area as I understand it :shrug:

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Post by Carlperkins » Thu Apr 29 2021 21:22

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Optima-Yello ... 890.l49286

Same as these
They are 75amph
Canโ€™t fault them, use them in my caravan too
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Post by chrisdonna » Thu Apr 29 2021 21:24

Bob,
I know absolutely nothing about what you may require but if you want to use a motor as light as possible with enough power maybe mounting it on the front of the kayak would help??
Better pulling than pushing.
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Post by Bob Watson » Thu Apr 29 2021 21:38

chrisdonna wrote: โ†‘
Bob,
I know absolutely nothing about what you may require but if you want to use a motor as light as possible with enough power maybe mounting it on the front of the kayak would help??
Better pulling than pushing.
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Cheers Chris, I'll bear it in mind :thumbs:

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Post by Carlperkins » Thu Apr 29 2021 21:42

Can be laid side on too
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Post by Crackoff » Tue May 04 2021 11:12

On the advice of Pinky going to get some of these
optima yellow tops and a cranking one

Cheeper than lithium and lithium aren't too good in the cold I believe

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