Trolling deadbaits

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Trolling deadbaits

Post by JoeNickel » Wed Sep 01 2021 23:04

When trolling baits on the oars, do people usually float troll?

Has anyone had any success trolling with SG lip sculls?
Wonder if they need more speed to work effectively. And I guess they limit the size / shape of the bait.

And I've just found this "Lucy Lures" contraption. Looks very messy. But I can see it'd work...
http://lucylures.com/dead-bait-trolling-rigs/

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Re: Trolling deadbaits

Post by John Milford » Thu Sep 02 2021 06:49

There's been lots of gizmos for making trolled deads wobble like lures Joe. The first I saw was the 'Herring Magic Actionizer', back in the '80s.

It always struck me that I might as well troll a lure as a bait rigged on something like those!

I like to float troll fish baits. Its a method I don't get to use very often, but it's been a good tactic for me whenever I do.
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Re: Trolling deadbaits

Post by Mike J » Thu Sep 02 2021 08:58

There are many ways to rig a deadbait for trolling, its a method that is practiced the world over, just look-up deadbait rigging on the 'nets big game fishing sites.

The most basic rig is the bait bridled through the eye sockets, it is highly effective as the hook placement and slow 1-1.5knots required makes the bait slowly rock from side to side. A small weight is used under the throat and the swim bladder is emptied.
The one essential of this type of bait fishing is to stich-up the baits mouth. For rigging use cheap unscented dental floss and a darning needle.

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Re: Trolling deadbaits

Post by stubbojo » Thu Sep 02 2021 19:49

JoeNickel wrote:
When trolling baits on the oars, do people usually float troll?

Has anyone had any success trolling with SG lip sculls?
Wonder if they need more speed to work effectively. And I guess they limit the size / shape of the bait.

And I've just found this "Lucy Lures" contraption. Looks very messy. But I can see it'd work...
http://lucylures.com/dead-bait-trolling-rigs/
joey makerell in a lip skull deadly....... slow trolled on certain venues had some good fish to them over the years
come to think of it i need some new ones , are they still available

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Re: Trolling deadbaits

Post by John Milford » Thu Sep 02 2021 23:23

I've found a picture of the original old 'Herring Magic Actionizer' - which are vintage items these days.

I've noticed some of our friends across the water refer to these kinds of devices as 'Herring Helmets! :laughs:

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Re: Trolling deadbaits

Post by JoeNickel » Thu Sep 02 2021 23:50

John Milford wrote:

I've noticed some of our friends across the water refer to these kinds of devices as 'Herring Helmets! :laughs:
:laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

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Re: Trolling deadbaits

Post by somebloke » Wed Sep 08 2021 07:55

stubbojo wrote:
JoeNickel wrote:
When trolling baits on the oars, do people usually float troll?

Has anyone had any success trolling with SG lip sculls?
Wonder if they need more speed to work effectively. And I guess they limit the size / shape of the bait.

And I've just found this "Lucy Lures" contraption. Looks very messy. But I can see it'd work...
http://lucylures.com/dead-bait-trolling-rigs/
joey makerell in a lip skull deadly....... slow trolled on certain venues had some good fish to them over the years
come to think of it i need some new ones , are they still available
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0RI3qdExdI

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Re: Trolling deadbaits

Post by JoeNickel » Thu Sep 09 2021 21:12

stubbojo wrote:
JoeNickel wrote:
When trolling baits on the oars, do people usually float troll?

Has anyone had any success trolling with SG lip sculls?
Wonder if they need more speed to work effectively. And I guess they limit the size / shape of the bait.

And I've just found this "Lucy Lures" contraption. Looks very messy. But I can see it'd work...
http://lucylures.com/dead-bait-trolling-rigs/
joey makerell in a lip skull deadly....... slow trolled on certain venues had some good fish to them over the years
come to think of it i need some new ones , are they still available
No longer made - but Glasgow Angling Centre are selling them. I thought I was buying transparent - they came in a pack of two, one each translucent red and green. I'm sure they will work just the same...

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Re: Trolling deadbaits

Post by JoeNickel » Tue Sep 14 2021 20:16

Alan_dalton wrote:
Thanks - they look interesting.

I've bought some of the lip sculls, but they look a good alternative.

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Re: Trolling deadbaits

Post by MalEarl » Sat Sep 18 2021 10:11

Joe, are you thinking about Bottom Bouncing, a method used by among others Charlie Bettel?

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Re: Trolling deadbaits

Post by JoeNickel » Wed Sep 22 2021 22:48

MalEarl wrote:
Joe, are you thinking about Bottom Bouncing, a method used by among others Charlie Bettel?
I wasn't, tbh. At least not in Oct - sounds like a recipe for collecting weed...

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