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Re: line or braid

Post by cookiesdaughtersdad » Sun Feb 11 2018 19:48

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thorny give me sound evidence braid is better than mono rarther than state noddy ?
the facts the way I see it yes for diameter line vers braid your getting a stronger line , agreed an accepted .
b :stir: :stir: :stir: :stir: ut now lets examine abrasion resistance this is were I believe mono is the true winner . has any one ever tested the 2 over a rock ?
braid only has to be touched over something sharp an it will fray an weaken . I'm positive mono is better .
also with braid you rely on an excellent clutch not jamming up . even the shimano xt baitrunners most use its poss the clutch could stick resulting in a badly damaged pike s mouth .
with mono if clutch failed this would not be a problem .
I think braid is perfectly suited to surface fishing with no risk of sharp rocks or whatever .
so can someone tell me how any pike can break 15 pound mono with clutch set right ,I say its impossible . an the stretch of line gives you some insurance for mistakes .
so how many of you using braid have been cut off ?
in 35 years pikeing I have never ever had a bite off with LBs. only on one occasion has my line broken over a rock in 35 years .
please provide me with evidence that I might be converted :stir:
Fishing remote Scottish lochs that are sometimes snag infested is totally different to fishing puddles down south now jog on yer helmet :roll:
Have you ever fished south of the wall Thorny? :laughs:

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Post by RAB-HENDO » Sun Feb 11 2018 19:52

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Re: line or braid

Post by cookiesdaughtersdad » Sun Feb 11 2018 19:52

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Pikey you say you have an eye for detailed perfection yet you have the grammer and spelling of a 2 year old :scratch:
Do you mean grammar? :clown:

With both mono and braid you should be selecting by diameter. One brand's 15lb mono might be as thick as another's 20lb, or as thin as a third's 10lb. Most 15lb monos are 0.35mm diameter. 0.40mm diameter mono would be my choice for abrasion resistance.
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Re: line or braid

Post by Andrew Croft » Sun Feb 11 2018 19:55

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Yes but it's not sunlight is it?
Both give off UV.

Braid is more resistant to uv if i recall :scratch:
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Post by zodiac » Sun Feb 11 2018 19:59

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Yes but it's not sunlight is it?
Both give off UV.

Braid is more resistant to uv if i recall :scratch:
Probably. I wasn't expecting a proper debate about it! Just a bit of fun crofty!
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Post by Andrew Croft » Sun Feb 11 2018 20:01

Me too mate :grin: only jestin. Clearly braid is better though :rasp:
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Re: line or braid

Post by Andrew Croft » Sun Feb 11 2018 20:02

How would ye rig a cockroach though :scratch:
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Re: line or braid

Post by Nige Johns » Sun Feb 11 2018 20:08

cookiesdaughtersdad wrote:
davelumb wrote:
Nige Johns wrote:
Pikey you say you have an eye for detailed perfection yet you have the grammer and spelling of a 2 year old :scratch:
Do you mean grammar? :clown:

With both mono and braid you should be selecting by diameter. One brand's 15lb mono might be as thick as another's 20lb, or as thin as a third's 10lb. Most 15lb monos are 0.35mm diameter. 0.40mm diameter mono would be my choice for abrasion resistance.
"Do you mean grammar? :clown: "

Im not very good a grama but is that the biggest feck up ever :boing:

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Re: line or braid

Post by THORNY » Sun Feb 11 2018 20:14

cookiesdaughtersdad wrote:
THORNY wrote:
pikey brownhills wrote:
thorny give me sound evidence braid is better than mono rarther than state noddy ?
the facts the way I see it yes for diameter line vers braid your getting a stronger line , agreed an accepted .
b :stir: :stir: :stir: :stir: ut now lets examine abrasion resistance this is were I believe mono is the true winner . has any one ever tested the 2 over a rock ?
braid only has to be touched over something sharp an it will fray an weaken . I'm positive mono is better .
also with braid you rely on an excellent clutch not jamming up . even the shimano xt baitrunners most use its poss the clutch could stick resulting in a badly damaged pike s mouth .
with mono if clutch failed this would not be a problem .
I think braid is perfectly suited to surface fishing with no risk of sharp rocks or whatever .
so can someone tell me how any pike can break 15 pound mono with clutch set right ,I say its impossible . an the stretch of line gives you some insurance for mistakes .
so how many of you using braid have been cut off ?
in 35 years pikeing I have never ever had a bite off with LBs. only on one occasion has my line broken over a rock in 35 years .
please provide me with evidence that I might be converted :stir:
Fishing remote Scottish lochs that are sometimes snag infested is totally different to fishing puddles down south now jog on yer helmet :roll:
Have you ever fished south of the wall Thorny? :laughs:

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Have you? :boing:

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Re: line or braid

Post by pikey brownhills » Sun Feb 11 2018 20:40

RAB-HENDO wrote:
Why not fish snaggy areas. Ffs well know holding spots up here
why not fish snaggy areas speaks for itself because either you or the pike will snag resulting in a dead pike , I thought this would been self explanatory??? :dizzy: hope spelling is correct for the spell checkers .

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Post by RAB-HENDO » Sun Feb 11 2018 20:53

Spell checker is ok my end ..... ya prick
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Re: line or braid

Post by pikey brownhills » Sun Feb 11 2018 20:58

I'm making a decision based on all comments , by the way rabbo made most sensible comment spool up to suit the swim in front :pipe:
to summerise line is more abrasion resistant than braid . so if fishing rocky bottom forget braid unless you want be cut off especially at distance , dread thought of 150 yards braid tangling wildlife up , so bottom fished ledger rigs on rocks its a no no , ill stick to mono .
so braid comes into its own fished on clean bottoms , an yes a plus point is if hooks catches bottom , the hook can be straightened , an yes if at distance no stretch when setting hooks . personally I fished large reservoir at 150 yds an always set the hooks with mono , yes you do have to wind hard an walk backwards but not a problem .
braid is also ideally suited to drifting , free roaming . but think outcome of this is whether use mono or braid , do not rule mono out it still has a use on bottom fished rocky bottoms , as rabbo said spool up to suit swim .
I'm sure some tackle dealers will promote braid as its lot more expensive , hence more profit for them against line .

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Re: line or braid

Post by cookiesdaughtersdad » Sun Feb 11 2018 21:00

Nige Johns wrote:
cookiesdaughtersdad wrote:
davelumb wrote:
Nige Johns wrote:
Pikey you say you have an eye for detailed perfection yet you have the grammer and spelling of a 2 year old
Do you mean grammar? :clown:

With both mono and braid you should be selecting by diameter. One brand's 15lb mono might be as thick as another's 20lb, or as thin as a third's 10lb. Most 15lb monos are 0.35mm diameter. 0.40mm diameter mono would be my choice for abrasion resistance.
"Do you mean grammar? :clown: "

Im not very good a grama but is that the biggest feck up ever :boing:

Cheers Alan
No Alun it was an attempt at huumer :laughs:
Ar, missed that one :red: :laughs:
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cookiesdaughtersdad wrote:
THORNY wrote:
pikey brownhills wrote:
thorny give me sound evidence braid is better than mono rarther than state noddy ?
the facts the way I see it yes for diameter line vers braid your getting a stronger line , agreed an accepted .
b :stir: :stir: :stir: :stir: ut now lets examine abrasion resistance this is were I believe mono is the true winner . has any one ever tested the 2 over a rock ?
braid only has to be touched over something sharp an it will fray an weaken . I'm positive mono is better .
also with braid you rely on an excellent clutch not jamming up . even the shimano xt baitrunners most use its poss the clutch could stick resulting in a badly damaged pike s mouth .
with mono if clutch failed this would not be a problem .
I think braid is perfectly suited to surface fishing with no risk of sharp rocks or whatever .
so can someone tell me how any pike can break 15 pound mono with clutch set right ,I say its impossible . an the stretch of line gives you some insurance for mistakes .
so how many of you using braid have been cut off ?
in 35 years pikeing I have never ever had a bite off with LBs. only on one occasion has my line broken over a rock in 35 years .
please provide me with evidence that I might be converted :stir:
Fishing remote Scottish lochs that are sometimes snag infested is totally different to fishing puddles down south now jog on yer helmet :roll:
Have you ever fished south of the wall Thorny? :laughs:

Cheers Alan
Have you? :boing:


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Re: line or braid

Post by Neville Fickling » Mon Feb 12 2018 08:44

Cannot see me ever going back to mono for anything with teeth

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Post by nordbeck » Mon Feb 12 2018 11:58

Neville Fickling wrote:
Cannot see me ever going back to mono for anything with teeth
What about very cold weather?
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Post by Neville Fickling » Mon Feb 12 2018 13:42

Never noticed mind you it’s cold enough today!

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Re: line or braid

Post by Chris b » Mon Feb 12 2018 13:47

15-20lb mono or 50-80lb braid.
Pick exact BS depending on water/method.

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Post by nordbeck » Mon Feb 12 2018 13:47

Is it? It is only minus 2 here

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Re: line or braid

Post by Neville Fickling » Mon Feb 12 2018 14:20

It’s not often that is that cold here

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Post by Kev Berry » Mon Feb 12 2018 16:42

Not used mono for piking for about 10 years now---cant see the point

if I fish snaggy bottoms I use a weak link for the lead -- well not that weak, I use 18lb line but attach the lead with a paper clip, no it dosnt cast off.
If my hooks snag up I can straighten them out with braid, far better than leaving a baited trace in the water.

IF I were fishing a place with lots of rocks I would use a float paternoster, no line anywhere near the bottom.

People got along fine with wooden rods for centuries---carbon fibre is to these what braid is to mono---a feckin BIG improvement

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Post by THORNY » Mon Feb 12 2018 18:26

Kev Berry wrote:
Not used mono for piking for about 10 years now---cant see the point

if I fish snaggy bottoms I use a weak link for the lead -- well not that weak, I use 18lb line but attach the lead with a paper clip, no it dosnt cast off.
If my hooks snag up I can straighten them out with braid, far better than leaving a baited trace in the water.

IF I were fishing a place with lots of rocks I would use a float paternoster, no line anywhere near the bottom.

People got along fine with wooden rods for centuries---carbon fibre is to these what braid is to mono---a feckin BIG improvement
Try telling that to Pikey Browndildo :pipe: my spell check is on the blink :laughs: :exit:

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Post by RAB-HENDO » Mon Feb 12 2018 21:06

Kev Berry wrote:
Not used mono for piking for about 10 years now---cant see the point

if I fish snaggy bottoms I use a weak link for the lead -- well not that weak, I use 18lb line but attach the lead with a paper clip, no it dosnt cast off.
If my hooks snag up I can straighten them out with braid, far better than leaving a baited trace in the water.

IF I were fishing a place with lots of rocks I would use a float paternoster, no line anywhere near the bottom.

People got along fine with wooden rods for centuries---carbon fibre is to these what braid is to mono---a feckin BIG improvement
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Re: line or braid

Post by cookiesdaughtersdad » Tue Feb 13 2018 08:26

THORNY wrote:
Kev Berry wrote:
Not used mono for piking for about 10 years now---cant see the point

if I fish snaggy bottoms I use a weak link for the lead -- well not that weak, I use 18lb line but attach the lead with a paper clip, no it dosnt cast off.
If my hooks snag up I can straighten them out with braid, far better than leaving a baited trace in the water.

IF I were fishing a place with lots of rocks I would use a float paternoster, no line anywhere near the bottom.

People got along fine with wooden rods for centuries---carbon fibre is to these what braid is to mono---a feckin BIG improvement
Try telling that to Pikey Browndildo :pipe: my spell check is on the blink :laughs: :exit:
Why have you got such a problem with the question Pikey asked, with attitudes like yours, no one will ever ask a question on here again!

Personally Pikey, I use braid for the reason Kev B mentions, if you get snagged up, you will bet the whole rig back "most" times as importantly the hooks and the lead links are weaker than the line.
The braid I use is either 0,36mm (66lb) or 0.41 (80lb) power pro, I test the hooks I use and the ones I am on at the moment pull out at around 40lb with two barbs in.
The reason for all this fuss for me as that you dont leave baited rigs about!
Other advantages is that it just last and lasts, I haven't tied a new knot for about 6 weeks and you can turn the line round when you respool it, some anglers have used the same stuff for 5 odd years!
Would I use mono again? in the right scenario, you bet ya!

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Re: line or braid

Post by THORNY » Tue Feb 13 2018 11:08

cookiesdaughtersdad wrote:
THORNY wrote:
Kev Berry wrote:
Not used mono for piking for about 10 years now---cant see the point

if I fish snaggy bottoms I use a weak link for the lead -- well not that weak, I use 18lb line but attach the lead with a paper clip, no it dosnt cast off.
If my hooks snag up I can straighten them out with braid, far better than leaving a baited trace in the water.

IF I were fishing a place with lots of rocks I would use a float paternoster, no line anywhere near the bottom.

People got along fine with wooden rods for centuries---carbon fibre is to these what braid is to mono---a feckin BIG improvement
Try telling that to Pikey Browndildo :pipe: my spell check is on the blink :laughs: :exit:
Why have you got such a problem with the question Pikey asked, with attitudes like yours, no one will ever ask a question on here again!

Personally Pikey, I use braid for the reason Kev B mentions, if you get snagged up, you will bet the whole rig back "most" times as importantly the hooks and the lead links are weaker than the line.
The braid I use is either 0,36mm (66lb) or 0.41 (80lb) power pro, I test the hooks I use and the ones I am on at the moment pull out at around 40lb with two barbs in.
The reason for all this fuss for me as that you dont leave baited rigs about!
Other advantages is that it just last and lasts, I haven't tied a new knot for about 6 weeks and you can turn the line round when you respool it, some anglers have used the same stuff for 5 odd years!
Would I use mono again? in the right scenario, you bet ya!

Cheers Alan
I have not got a problem with his question it’s the fact that everytime he posts something up it’s just a load of crap and lm fed up of reading it .Afew forum members have tried to explain the benefits of using braid but this guy seems to think he knows it all even fishing Scottish lochs but he’s never wet a line in one go figure.He is abit like yourself full of it :roll:

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Post by cookiesdaughtersdad » Tue Feb 13 2018 17:02

THORNY wrote:
cookiesdaughtersdad wrote:
THORNY wrote:
Kev Berry wrote:
Not used mono for piking for about 10 years now---cant see the point

if I fish snaggy bottoms I use a weak link for the lead -- well not that weak, I use 18lb line but attach the lead with a paper clip, no it dosnt cast off.
If my hooks snag up I can straighten them out with braid, far better than leaving a baited trace in the water.

IF I were fishing a place with lots of rocks I would use a float paternoster, no line anywhere near the bottom.

People got along fine with wooden rods for centuries---carbon fibre is to these what braid is to mono---a feckin BIG improvement
Try telling that to Pikey Browndildo :pipe: my spell check is on the blink :laughs: :exit:
Why have you got such a problem with the question Pikey asked, with attitudes like yours, no one will ever ask a question on here again!

Personally Pikey, I use braid for the reason Kev B mentions, if you get snagged up, you will bet the whole rig back "most" times as importantly the hooks and the lead links are weaker than the line.
The braid I use is either 0,36mm (66lb) or 0.41 (80lb) power pro, I test the hooks I use and the ones I am on at the moment pull out at around 40lb with two barbs in.
The reason for all this fuss for me as that you dont leave baited rigs about!
Other advantages is that it just last and lasts, I haven't tied a new knot for about 6 weeks and you can turn the line round when you respool it, some anglers have used the same stuff for 5 odd years!
Would I use mono again? in the right scenario, you bet ya!

Cheers Alan
I have not got a problem with his question it’s the fact that everytime he posts something up it’s just a load of crap and lm fed up of reading it .Afew forum members have tried to explain the benefits of using braid but this guy seems to think he knows it all even fishing Scottish lochs but he’s never wet a line in one go figure.He is abit like yourself full of it :roll:
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Dont read it then and I wonder is the air thin up there on that holy cloud?
Maybe ben should make you editor :thumbs:

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Re: line or braid

Post by davelumb » Tue Feb 13 2018 17:41

The braid I use is either 0,36mm (66lb) or 0.41 (80lb) power pro,
Those will be 50lb and 65lb in real money. :smile:

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