Finding the depth
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Finding the depth
Currently sat by the water having a go at dead baiting for the first time.
Something that never sprang to mind until my first cast is how you go about finding the bottom when float fishing.
It was nice and easy when pole or waggler fishing in the past, stick a plummet on the end of the hook.
Today I have done by using dead bait as the plummet. Is that how it's usually done or is there any other ways?
Something that never sprang to mind until my first cast is how you go about finding the bottom when float fishing.
It was nice and easy when pole or waggler fishing in the past, stick a plummet on the end of the hook.
Today I have done by using dead bait as the plummet. Is that how it's usually done or is there any other ways?
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Re: Finding the depth
I just use a big lead clipped onto uptrace,heavy enough to sink my small float with a sliding stop knot on the line.
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Re: Finding the depth
mainline > free runnin weight > bead > float.
measure a foot on your rod from the top of the grip (ive got a wee bit of power gum tied on at 1ft).
cast and wind the float down to meet the weight while pointing the rod at the weight then strip of a foot at a time using your guide while counting as you go until the float appears.
I use a large chubber/swan float
measure a foot on your rod from the top of the grip (ive got a wee bit of power gum tied on at 1ft).
cast and wind the float down to meet the weight while pointing the rod at the weight then strip of a foot at a time using your guide while counting as you go until the float appears.
I use a large chubber/swan float
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Re: Finding the depth
brydeighton wrote:Fish with an unloaded, bottom end only float, and a fixed weight, either shot or semi fixed lead.Currently sat by the water having a go at dead baiting for the first time.
Something that never sprang to mind until my first cast is how you go about finding the bottom when float fishing.
It was nice and easy when pole or waggler fishing in the past, stick a plummet on the end of the hook.
Today I have done by using dead bait as the plummet. Is that how it's usually done or is there any other ways?
Set the stop knot over depth, cast out carefully wind down until the float "c*cks" and set the baitrunner.
When the bait is moved the float will fall over and cant reset (unless strong current), which means even if you glance away from your float for a second you will know instantly you have had a pick up.
Also you don't have to worry about depth or keep moving stop knot and is perfect for wacking out baits and then gradually bringing them in, searching the water as you go.
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Re: Finding the depth
The predator wrote:The other way is ledgering.....
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The predator wrote:Yup, that is an option, but for me that means 6 banksticks + buzzers to carry and keep setting up and taking down.The other way is ledgering.....
On a typical day I might fish 6-8 swims, floats make it so much easier..
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Re: Finding the depth
The first bait in a swim can be the one that is taken. Personally i dont bother plumbing initially if i have a general idea of depth and fishing a static bait.
To me the first bait in is crucial... having big leads dropping in continually or bright orange floats bobbing from bottom to top as you measure the depth is counter productive. Scares pike and fodder fish in many scenaros. Although in some commercials a lot of noise can be a dinner bell...
Stealth can be your biggest asset. Set the float up over depth and tighten down to it till its set suitably on the surface. Job done. Whena pike takes the bait it will either pop up or slide away but the bite is obv enough. Then plumb the swim as you leave ready for next time.
To me the first bait in is crucial... having big leads dropping in continually or bright orange floats bobbing from bottom to top as you measure the depth is counter productive. Scares pike and fodder fish in many scenaros. Although in some commercials a lot of noise can be a dinner bell...
Stealth can be your biggest asset. Set the float up over depth and tighten down to it till its set suitably on the surface. Job done. Whena pike takes the bait it will either pop up or slide away but the bite is obv enough. Then plumb the swim as you leave ready for next time.
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Re: Finding the depth
Kevin O'Keeffe wrote:And lead it as-well to see what type of bottom your fishing overThe first bait in a swim can be the one that is taken. Personally i dont bother plumbing initially if i have a general idea of depth and fishing a static bait.
To me the first bait in is crucial... having big leads dropping in continually or bright orange floats bobbing from bottom to top as you measure the depth is counter productive. Scares pike and fodder fish in many scenaros. Although in some commercials a lot of noise can be a dinner bell...
Stealth can be your biggest asset. Set the float up over depth and tighten down to it till its set suitably on the surface. Job done. Whena pike takes the bait it will either pop up or slide away but the bite is obv enough. Then plumb the swim as you leave ready for next time.
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Re: Finding the depth
Crackoff wrote:Always bottoms with you innit?Kevin O'Keeffe wrote:And lead it as-well to see what type of bottom your fishing overThe first bait in a swim can be the one that is taken. Personally i dont bother plumbing initially if i have a general idea of depth and fishing a static bait.
To me the first bait in is crucial... having big leads dropping in continually or bright orange floats bobbing from bottom to top as you measure the depth is counter productive. Scares pike and fodder fish in many scenaros. Although in some commercials a lot of noise can be a dinner bell...
Stealth can be your biggest asset. Set the float up over depth and tighten down to it till its set suitably on the surface. Job done. Whena pike takes the bait it will either pop up or slide away but the bite is obv enough. Then plumb the swim as you leave ready for next time.
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Re: Finding the depth
The predator wrote:You know me Andy I never leave my friends behindCrackoff wrote:Always bottoms with you innit?Kevin O'Keeffe wrote:And lead it as-well to see what type of bottom your fishing overThe first bait in a swim can be the one that is taken. Personally i dont bother plumbing initially if i have a general idea of depth and fishing a static bait.
To me the first bait in is crucial... having big leads dropping in continually or bright orange floats bobbing from bottom to top as you measure the depth is counter productive. Scares pike and fodder fish in many scenaros. Although in some commercials a lot of noise can be a dinner bell...
Stealth can be your biggest asset. Set the float up over depth and tighten down to it till its set suitably on the surface. Job done. Whena pike takes the bait it will either pop up or slide away but the bite is obv enough. Then plumb the swim as you leave ready for next time.
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Re: Finding the depth
Kevin O'Keeffe wrote:I think noise often attracts pike.The first bait in a swim can be the one that is taken. Personally i dont bother plumbing initially if i have a general idea of depth and fishing a static bait.
To me the first bait in is crucial... having big leads dropping in continually or bright orange floats bobbing from bottom to top as you measure the depth is counter productive. Scares pike and fodder fish in many scenaros. Although in some commercials a lot of noise can be a dinner bell...
Stealth can be your biggest asset. Set the float up over depth and tighten down to it till its set suitably on the surface. Job done. Whena pike takes the bait it will either pop up or slide away but the bite is obv enough. Then plumb the swim as you leave ready for next time.
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Re: Finding the depth
With you there too Bill but stealth first as there is no going back after making the noise. You can make a noise after the stealth approach
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Re: Finding the depth
These floats availablle from premier floats lock on the surface to give you the depth without plumbing. One turn of the handle and they c*ck above you lead/bait
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Re: Finding the depth
Drop your c*ck in and if the end don't touch the bottom its deeper than 12"
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Re: Finding the depth
Graham Benyon wrote:These look goodThese floats availablle from premier floats lock on the surface to give you the depth without plumbing. One turn of the handle and they c*ck above you lead/bait
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Re: Finding the depth
trolling floats will do the same. use a decent lead, cast out at desired spot, wind in carefully but on a tight line, the distance from float to lead is roughly the depth. piece of cake it is...
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Re: Finding the depth
Wouldn't a Polaris do the same job without the need to use stop nots .
Just got myself a Rubens depth meter so going out later to a local water to map it up for shelf etc
Just got myself a Rubens depth meter so going out later to a local water to map it up for shelf etc
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Ash m wrote:Kinnell you've got short legs Ash!!Drop your c*ck in and if the end don't touch the bottom its deeper than 12"
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Re: Finding the depth
I just attach all my gear, pencil float, attached bottom end only and stopped with a small bead and a float stop, uptrace and lead. Just leave the hook trace off and have a couple of chucks until the float either c*cks or half-c*cks. Then just increase the depth by around 1ft to 18in. Attach trace and deadbait, cast out and the float will lie flat. Wind down until it c*cks and put the baitrunner on.
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Re: Finding the depth
Swifty wrote:+1, sounds about right and takes a minute or 2.I just attach all my gear, pencil float, attached bottom end only and stopped with a small bead and a float stop, uptrace and lead. Just leave the hook trace off and have a couple of chucks until the float either c*cks or half-c*cks. Then just increase the depth by around 1ft to 18in. Attach trace and deadbait, cast out and the float will lie flat. Wind down until it c*cks and put the baitrunner on.
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Re: Finding the depth
One cast and retrieve with a smartcast per rod is all you need, can't beet it
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Re: Finding the depth
Doing just that has changed my approach to both bank and boat fishing.....
Gives you a very accurate bait placement approach when over stream beds and structure.
Rivers.. Flick it out and let it run down stream till the hole is found and cast to it.
Plumbing new venues is easier.
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Gives you a very accurate bait placement approach when over stream beds and structure.
Rivers.. Flick it out and let it run down stream till the hole is found and cast to it.
Plumbing new venues is easier.
Handy bit of kit
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