Quarantine Eel Rigs

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by Mynki » Mon Jun 22 2020 18:34

A friend of mine recently caught a couple in a local canal where according to many club regulars "there's been no eels in here for over 20 years...."

So I'm thinking of deliberately targeting them one evening. I was thinking 10lb line with a 12" wire trace with a size 6 barbless hook and piece of deadbait as dusk. Will that give me a chance?

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by Mattjb » Mon Jun 22 2020 21:02

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Dead gudgeon are my go to if worms don't work. Fished on a JS rig (or Jim Gibbinson deep water leger rig, same thing) or a Dyson rig.

Caught loads on the above rigs and baits. Loads...
Sam do they have to be freshly killed gudgeon to be effective or will gudgeon that have been killed then frozen straight away do the job? I know some say freshly killed is best

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by davelumb » Mon Jun 22 2020 21:04

Mattjb wrote:
Sam wrote:
Dead gudgeon are my go to if worms don't work. Fished on a JS rig (or Jim Gibbinson deep water leger rig, same thing) or a Dyson rig.

Caught loads on the above rigs and baits. Loads...
Sam do they have to be freshly killed gudgeon to be effective or will gudgeon that have been killed then frozen straight away do the job? I know some say freshly killed is best
Eels do seem to like gudgeon for some reason.I did well with frozen ones.

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by Mattjb » Mon Jun 22 2020 22:15

davelumb wrote:
Mattjb wrote:
Sam wrote:
Dead gudgeon are my go to if worms don't work. Fished on a JS rig (or Jim Gibbinson deep water leger rig, same thing) or a Dyson rig.

Caught loads on the above rigs and baits. Loads...
Sam do they have to be freshly killed gudgeon to be effective or will gudgeon that have been killed then frozen straight away do the job? I know some say freshly killed is best
Eels do seem to like gudgeon for some reason.I did well with frozen ones.
Cheers Dave,another thing to try if I can plunder any gudgeon from somewhere.

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by piker66 » Tue Jun 23 2020 06:44

Could someone put a pic up of their Twig rig/eel rig please ?
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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by Sam » Tue Jun 23 2020 09:02

Mattjb wrote:
Sam wrote:
Dead gudgeon are my go to if worms don't work. Fished on a JS rig (or Jim Gibbinson deep water leger rig, same thing) or a Dyson rig.

Caught loads on the above rigs and baits. Loads...
Sam do they have to be freshly killed gudgeon to be effective or will gudgeon that have been killed then frozen straight away do the job? I know some say freshly killed is best
Fresh killed are best, with frozen coming in as second. I would say sometimes the eels prefer them either way ahead of worms, mackrel strip, squid etc. Those days (and nights) I found it handy to have 3 rods out and ring the changes until I found what works. Which was/is usually gudgeon.

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by Mattjb » Tue Jun 23 2020 10:38

Sam wrote:
Mattjb wrote:
Sam wrote:
Dead gudgeon are my go to if worms don't work. Fished on a JS rig (or Jim Gibbinson deep water leger rig, same thing) or a Dyson rig.

Caught loads on the above rigs and baits. Loads...
Sam do they have to be freshly killed gudgeon to be effective or will gudgeon that have been killed then frozen straight away do the job? I know some say freshly killed is best
Fresh killed are best, with frozen coming in as second. I would say sometimes the eels prefer them either way ahead of worms, mackrel strip, squid etc. Those days (and nights) I found it handy to have 3 rods out and ring the changes until I found what works. Which was/is usually gudgeon.
Thanks mate, I'll give it a go when I can get hold of some gudgeon

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by Mick Cobb » Tue Jun 23 2020 18:45

Top advice as above , find their bait preference for the water you are fishing deads or worms, it will make a massive difference to your catches, semi/bolt rigs work very well with either. :wink:
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Post by Sam » Wed Jun 24 2020 14:46

Mick Cobb wrote:
Top advice as above , find their bait preference for the water you are fishing deads or worms, it will make a massive difference to your catches, semi/bolt rigs work very well with either. :wink:
The Dyson rig is effectively a bolt rig IMHO. As long as the tension is constant from the rod tip to the lead, I never had any issues with developing runs and fish dropping the bait. You can even fish heavier bobbins to register drop backs, although all the takes I have on that rig are slow and steady 'trundles' off a light clutch or freespool, even with the aforementioned constant tension. It's amazing to watch the rod tip bend over like a slow barbel bite before the bobbin or alarm even register.

Mega eel weather coming up this weekend. Time for me to swap the gear over this week from tench fishing, which is just about done for me for this season. My plan is to find where the carp, tench and bream have spawned, if at all, and bung lobs and gudgeon out there. I will probably catch just bream knowing my luck.

Got some gonker gudgeon in the freezer from my local river...

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by Mattjb » Wed Jun 24 2020 22:06

Sam wrote:
Mick Cobb wrote:
Top advice as above , find their bait preference for the water you are fishing deads or worms, it will make a massive difference to your catches, semi/bolt rigs work very well with either. :wink:
The Dyson rig is effectively a bolt rig IMHO. As long as the tension is constant from the rod tip to the lead, I never had any issues with developing runs and fish dropping the bait. You can even fish heavier bobbins to register drop backs, although all the takes I have on that rig are slow and steady 'trundles' off a light clutch or freespool, even with the aforementioned constant tension. It's amazing to watch the rod tip bend over like a slow barbel bite before the bobbin or alarm even register.

Mega eel weather coming up this weekend. Time for me to swap the gear over this week from tench fishing, which is just about done for me for this season. My plan is to find where the carp, tench and bream have spawned, if at all, and bung lobs and gudgeon out there. I will probably catch just bream knowing my luck.

Got some gonker gudgeon in the freezer from my local river...
I was thinking that Friday night looked good,I might have another try.

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by greencard1 » Thu Jun 25 2020 05:51

YOU MONSTERS!
How can you kill poor little gudgeon?
Very rare fish in some areas.

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Post by davelumb » Thu Jun 25 2020 08:41

greencard1 wrote:
YOU MONSTERS!
How can you kill poor little gudgeon?
Very rare fish in some areas.
I know two holes-in-the-ground that are overrun with gudgeon. One has matches to remove them!

Wish I'd visited them to stock up as I might have fared better with the eels last night. One lost fish (probably a jack) to a smelt tail and a snotty, tackle tangling bootlace to a bunch of worms fished off-bottom.

At least it's a start.

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by greencard1 » Thu Jun 25 2020 12:10

davelumb wrote:
greencard1 wrote:
YOU MONSTERS!
How can you kill poor little gudgeon?
Very rare fish in some areas.
I know two holes-in-the-ground that are overrun with gudgeon. One has matches to remove them!

Wish I'd visited them to stock up as I might have fared better with the eels last night. One lost fish (probably a jack) to a smelt tail and a snotty, tackle tangling bootlace to a bunch of worms fished off-bottom.

At least it's a start.
Serves you right for being a gudgeon murderer.

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by davelumb » Thu Jun 25 2020 12:22

greencard1 wrote:
davelumb wrote:
greencard1 wrote:
YOU MONSTERS!
How can you kill poor little gudgeon?
Very rare fish in some areas.
I know two holes-in-the-ground that are overrun with gudgeon. One has matches to remove them!

Wish I'd visited them to stock up as I might have fared better with the eels last night. One lost fish (probably a jack) to a smelt tail and a snotty, tackle tangling bootlace to a bunch of worms fished off-bottom.

At least it's a start.
Serves you right for being a gudgeon murderer.
If I'd murdered some gudgeon I might have caught more. :grin:

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by Mattjb » Thu Jul 02 2020 08:03

Emma Hamilton wrote:
Ive done loads of eel fishing over the past couple of years and the best tip i had before i started was to use trout flesh as bait. They seem to love it. Ive also done OK on luncheon meat , they love that too. Trout flesh is the go, it's got tough skin and you can double hook through the skin with plenty of hook showing. Simple short running rigs all the way.

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Fished a different water Saturday night.Had 5 eels and 2 came to a strip of trout. :thumbs:

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by piker66 » Thu Jul 02 2020 14:31

Nice. Any decent ones Matt ?
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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by Mattjb » Thu Jul 02 2020 15:26

piker66 wrote:
Nice. Any decent ones Matt ?
Yes,see snigging thread, had another 4.03 and a 2 after the others.

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by Fitas » Sun Jul 19 2020 16:27

JS rig is a out of date eel rig now. To many deep hook eels using it. I use very short hooks for eels now

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by jack » Sun Jul 19 2020 17:32

Interesting post fitas, any chance of anymore info on your rigs please? Perhaps a photo'?

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by Fitas » Thu Jul 23 2020 20:27

I try and sort a photo out to be be fair its just a simple running rig . 6 inch trace with twig rig size 8 hook big run ring and 2 big beads . Trouble with JS rig is how long the trace is . The eel could move 18 inches either way before you register a bite.

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by jack » Fri Jul 24 2020 11:09

Ok thanks.

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by fenpiker » Sun Aug 02 2020 04:33

When I lived in NZ the 'go to' bait was liver, never tried it in the uk though. Might be worth a try.

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Re: Quarantine Eel Rigs

Post by The_Saint » Thu Aug 06 2020 17:06

Dave Smith wrote:
Lads are you getting Perch after dark on Worms?
I've had the occasional Perch on Worms but as they're predominantly sight feeders I don't tend to be troubled with them after dark...
I know several lads who get terrorised by small perch throughout the night on lobs fished under the dyson rig, something to consider if looking at this method.
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