stubbojo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14 2021 22:51 -Like the WelshTaffypiker wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14 2021 21:15 -they like eating there own without a doubtstubbojo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14 2021 20:06 -Whenever I bring in a perch imitation lure , small perch follow it in , nipping at itTaffypiker wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14 2021 11:34 -i have watched perch feeding at really close range and on the water wolf , on waters i fish they hunt down and feed predominately on small perch about 50mm in sizeMy best perch have come on perch looking lures
this is perch over the 1lb mark , but they will take quite large live roach...... as i found out earlier in the year
Why don't perch take deadbaits then ?
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Re: Why don't perch take deadbaits then ?
I caught a 3lb perch on a small deadbait roach on the bottom. They do take them.
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Drift take wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26 2021 14:19 -caught a few myself on deads over the years...I caught a 3lb perch on a small deadbait roach on the bottom. They do take them.
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Just joined so pardon me for replying so late to the thread.
Perch will take fresh deads but I have found that they tend to prefer 'popped up' dead bait over 'flat'.
All of my largest Perch have fallen to live bait.
In terms of tackle scale, all my largest Perch were taken on gear intended for Pike.
I would suggest that, whatever method you go for, you assume that a large Pike will mess up your plan.
My point being that large Perch don't seem to care about the scale of your tackle but a full set-up
will protect you from larger predators. And Carp. They will take a popped up DB too.
Perch seem, to me, to be visual hunters. Fresh, moving, food seems to be their preference. They don't
seem to care that you have 20lb line, a 28lb trace and a size 2 hook.
Perch will take fresh deads but I have found that they tend to prefer 'popped up' dead bait over 'flat'.
All of my largest Perch have fallen to live bait.
In terms of tackle scale, all my largest Perch were taken on gear intended for Pike.
I would suggest that, whatever method you go for, you assume that a large Pike will mess up your plan.
My point being that large Perch don't seem to care about the scale of your tackle but a full set-up
will protect you from larger predators. And Carp. They will take a popped up DB too.
Perch seem, to me, to be visual hunters. Fresh, moving, food seems to be their preference. They don't
seem to care that you have 20lb line, a 28lb trace and a size 2 hook.
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Re: Why don't perch take deadbaits then ?
my mate had a 3lb perch on a wafter intended for carp .......he has since fished large worm baits for perch......to zero catch
my perch venue has some decent pike that do sometimes spoil things but you cant have it all ...i always use wire for my perch fishing......bar one venue
my perch venue has some decent pike that do sometimes spoil things but you cant have it all ...i always use wire for my perch fishing......bar one venue
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JCJ wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11 2022 19:29 -Have you tried prawns on a loafer float for perch ?Just joined so pardon me for replying so late to the thread.
Perch will take fresh deads but I have found that they tend to prefer 'popped up' dead bait over 'flat'.
All of my largest Perch have fallen to live bait.
In terms of tackle scale, all my largest Perch were taken on gear intended for Pike.
I would suggest that, whatever method you go for, you assume that a large Pike will mess up your plan.
My point being that large Perch don't seem to care about the scale of your tackle but a full set-up
will protect you from larger predators. And Carp. They will take a popped up DB too.
Perch seem, to me, to be visual hunters. Fresh, moving, food seems to be their preference. They don't
seem to care that you have 20lb line, a 28lb trace and a size 2 hook.
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I had a winter out of Piking a few years back and targeted Perch when I'd become a little incapacitated due to a back injury. My approach was pretty much mini Piking and I was blessed with prolific fishing on my local (at the time) rivers and a couple of pits, where it was genuinely more likely to catch a 3 pounder than a 2! It was often quite visual fishing and for the most part around structure, bridges and pontoons. The Perch loved a live bait and Gudgeon seemed to out fish the others I used (Roach, Rudd and minnows if I couldn't get BIGGER baits)? I found they liked a quite BIG bait too and 2 or 3 ounces and occasionally 4 would be engulfed quite readily. What seemed to be key for success was that if there was more than 1 Perch present they'd seemingly compete for the bait and if there happened to be several Perch present then and only then would they take dead bait but I did have to twitch it too! There will for sure be exceptions but that's how I found it.
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you cant beat a big perch dave , your right they will take a good sized fish bait
a piking session ,proved just that fishing quite large baits intended for pike .....found some lovely perch in the swim
a piking session ,proved just that fishing quite large baits intended for pike .....found some lovely perch in the swim
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Dave Horton wrote: ↑Sat May 21 2022 15:58 -Awesome brace of perch there Dave!I had a winter out of Piking a few years back and targeted Perch when I'd become a little incapacitated due to a back injury. My approach was pretty much mini Piking and I was blessed with prolific fishing on my local (at the time) rivers and a couple of pits, where it was genuinely more likely to catch a 3 pounder than a 2! It was often quite visual fishing and for the most part around structure, bridges and pontoons. The Perch loved a live bait and Gudgeon seemed to out fish the others I used (Roach, Rudd and minnows if I couldn't get BIGGER baits)? I found they liked a quite BIG bait too and 2 or 3 ounces and occasionally 4 would be engulfed quite readily. What seemed to be key for success was that if there was more than 1 Perch present they'd seemingly compete for the bait and if there happened to be several Perch present then and only then would they take dead bait but I did have to twitch it too! There will for sure be exceptions but that's how I found it.
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piker al wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 18:08 -Thanks Al!Dave Horton wrote: ↑Sat May 21 2022 15:58 -Awesome brace of perch there Dave!I had a winter out of Piking a few years back and targeted Perch when I'd become a little incapacitated due to a back injury. My approach was pretty much mini Piking and I was blessed with prolific fishing on my local (at the time) rivers and a couple of pits, where it was genuinely more likely to catch a 3 pounder than a 2! It was often quite visual fishing and for the most part around structure, bridges and pontoons. The Perch loved a live bait and Gudgeon seemed to out fish the others I used (Roach, Rudd and minnows if I couldn't get BIGGER baits)? I found they liked a quite BIG bait too and 2 or 3 ounces and occasionally 4 would be engulfed quite readily. What seemed to be key for success was that if there was more than 1 Perch present they'd seemingly compete for the bait and if there happened to be several Perch present then and only then would they take dead bait but I did have to twitch it too! There will for sure be exceptions but that's how I found it.
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Re: Why don't perch take deadbaits then ?
Dave Horton wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 19:06 -Aye they look massive! Perch the biggest fish of all!piker al wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 18:08 -Thanks Al!Dave Horton wrote: ↑Sat May 21 2022 15:58 -Awesome brace of perch there Dave!I had a winter out of Piking a few years back and targeted Perch when I'd become a little incapacitated due to a back injury. My approach was pretty much mini Piking and I was blessed with prolific fishing on my local (at the time) rivers and a couple of pits, where it was genuinely more likely to catch a 3 pounder than a 2! It was often quite visual fishing and for the most part around structure, bridges and pontoons. The Perch loved a live bait and Gudgeon seemed to out fish the others I used (Roach, Rudd and minnows if I couldn't get BIGGER baits)? I found they liked a quite BIG bait too and 2 or 3 ounces and occasionally 4 would be engulfed quite readily. What seemed to be key for success was that if there was more than 1 Perch present they'd seemingly compete for the bait and if there happened to be several Perch present then and only then would they take dead bait but I did have to twitch it too! There will for sure be exceptions but that's how I found it.
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Re: Why don't perch take deadbaits then ?
piker al wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 10:44 -I think whale sharks would disagree.Dave Horton wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 19:06 -Aye they look massive! Perch the biggest fish of all!piker al wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 18:08 -Thanks Al!Dave Horton wrote: ↑Sat May 21 2022 15:58 -Awesome brace of perch there Dave!I had a winter out of Piking a few years back and targeted Perch when I'd become a little incapacitated due to a back injury. My approach was pretty much mini Piking and I was blessed with prolific fishing on my local (at the time) rivers and a couple of pits, where it was genuinely more likely to catch a 3 pounder than a 2! It was often quite visual fishing and for the most part around structure, bridges and pontoons. The Perch loved a live bait and Gudgeon seemed to out fish the others I used (Roach, Rudd and minnows if I couldn't get BIGGER baits)? I found they liked a quite BIG bait too and 2 or 3 ounces and occasionally 4 would be engulfed quite readily. What seemed to be key for success was that if there was more than 1 Perch present they'd seemingly compete for the bait and if there happened to be several Perch present then and only then would they take dead bait but I did have to twitch it too! There will for sure be exceptions but that's how I found it.
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davelumb wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 10:50 -Ok maybe not that big, I was quoting Dick walkerpiker al wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 10:44 -I think whale sharks would disagree.Dave Horton wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 19:06 -Aye they look massive! Perch the biggest fish of all!piker al wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 18:08 -Thanks Al!Dave Horton wrote: ↑Sat May 21 2022 15:58 -Awesome brace of perch there Dave!I had a winter out of Piking a few years back and targeted Perch when I'd become a little incapacitated due to a back injury. My approach was pretty much mini Piking and I was blessed with prolific fishing on my local (at the time) rivers and a couple of pits, where it was genuinely more likely to catch a 3 pounder than a 2! It was often quite visual fishing and for the most part around structure, bridges and pontoons. The Perch loved a live bait and Gudgeon seemed to out fish the others I used (Roach, Rudd and minnows if I couldn't get BIGGER baits)? I found they liked a quite BIG bait too and 2 or 3 ounces and occasionally 4 would be engulfed quite readily. What seemed to be key for success was that if there was more than 1 Perch present they'd seemingly compete for the bait and if there happened to be several Perch present then and only then would they take dead bait but I did have to twitch it too! There will for sure be exceptions but that's how I found it.
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piker al wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 12:04 -Goes to show he didn't know much!davelumb wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 10:50 -Ok maybe not that big, I was quoting Dick walkerpiker al wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 10:44 -I think whale sharks would disagree.Dave Horton wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 19:06 -Aye they look massive! Perch the biggest fish of all!piker al wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 18:08 -Thanks Al!Dave Horton wrote: ↑Sat May 21 2022 15:58 -Awesome brace of perch there Dave!I had a winter out of Piking a few years back and targeted Perch when I'd become a little incapacitated due to a back injury. My approach was pretty much mini Piking and I was blessed with prolific fishing on my local (at the time) rivers and a couple of pits, where it was genuinely more likely to catch a 3 pounder than a 2! It was often quite visual fishing and for the most part around structure, bridges and pontoons. The Perch loved a live bait and Gudgeon seemed to out fish the others I used (Roach, Rudd and minnows if I couldn't get BIGGER baits)? I found they liked a quite BIG bait too and 2 or 3 ounces and occasionally 4 would be engulfed quite readily. What seemed to be key for success was that if there was more than 1 Perch present they'd seemingly compete for the bait and if there happened to be several Perch present then and only then would they take dead bait but I did have to twitch it too! There will for sure be exceptions but that's how I found it.
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Re: Why don't perch take deadbaits then ?
davelumb wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 12:15 -We really need some more emojis !piker al wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 12:04 -Goes to show he didn't know much!davelumb wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 10:50 -Ok maybe not that big, I was quoting Dick walkerpiker al wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 10:44 -I think whale sharks would disagree.Dave Horton wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 19:06 -Aye they look massive! Perch the biggest fish of all!piker al wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 18:08 -Thanks Al!Dave Horton wrote: ↑Sat May 21 2022 15:58 -Awesome brace of perch there Dave!I had a winter out of Piking a few years back and targeted Perch when I'd become a little incapacitated due to a back injury. My approach was pretty much mini Piking and I was blessed with prolific fishing on my local (at the time) rivers and a couple of pits, where it was genuinely more likely to catch a 3 pounder than a 2! It was often quite visual fishing and for the most part around structure, bridges and pontoons. The Perch loved a live bait and Gudgeon seemed to out fish the others I used (Roach, Rudd and minnows if I couldn't get BIGGER baits)? I found they liked a quite BIG bait too and 2 or 3 ounces and occasionally 4 would be engulfed quite readily. What seemed to be key for success was that if there was more than 1 Perch present they'd seemingly compete for the bait and if there happened to be several Perch present then and only then would they take dead bait but I did have to twitch it too! There will for sure be exceptions but that's how I found it.
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Re: Why don't perch take deadbaits then ?
I’ve caught plenty of decent perch ( up to 3lb 15 ) on dead roach when fishing for eels. I’d always prefer a live roach or my personal fave perch bait is a king prawn.
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dont know about you guys a prefer a perch from a natural water , not a commercial type water they look washed out, grey
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Re: Why don't perch take deadbaits then ?
When I was younger, I used to catch nice perch on this estate lake fishing under the rod tips up against a brick wall, using small roach deadbaits to a size 8 carp hook on 15lb wonderwire. They were 1-2” roach netted out the margins. I didn’t appreciate just how good that perch fishing was at the time, wish I could find the place now!
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When you use King prawns do u put it on with bait elastic ?
And what size hook ?
And what size hook ?
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Taffypiker wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30 2022 19:38 -I use a four generaly, they work well either threaded on or on a hair with a big hair stop, great baitWhen you use King prawns do u put it on with bait elastic ?
And what size hook ?
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Re: Why don't perch take deadbaits then ?
suffolk si wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30 2022 22:53 -Is it worth soaking them in additives or attractant?Taffypiker wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30 2022 19:38 -I use a four generaly, they work well either threaded on or on a hair with a big hair stop, great baitWhen you use King prawns do u put it on with bait elastic ?
And what size hook ?
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Re: Why don't perch take deadbaits then ?
Taffypiker wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30 2022 22:59 -I’ve never bothered,not worth it in my opinion they are pretty smelly anywaysuffolk si wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30 2022 22:53 -Is it worth soaking them in additives or attractant?Taffypiker wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30 2022 19:38 -I use a four generaly, they work well either threaded on or on a hair with a big hair stop, great baitWhen you use King prawns do u put it on with bait elastic ?
And what size hook ?
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suffolk si wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30 2022 23:12 -I have thought of using dried sprats from the pet stores , they are on the smaller side , almost like whitebait ?Taffypiker wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30 2022 22:59 -I’ve never bothered,not worth it in my opinion they are pretty smelly anywaysuffolk si wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30 2022 22:53 -Is it worth soaking them in additives or attractant?Taffypiker wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30 2022 19:38 -I use a four generaly, they work well either threaded on or on a hair with a big hair stop, great baitWhen you use King prawns do u put it on with bait elastic ?
And what size hook ?
I have always found it hard to believe perch do not have a scavenger side to their nature like pike and chub and even trout sometimes ?