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Hook link for eels
I’m looking at trying some eel fishing in the summer months on a local river which I know contains eels. I’ve had a look on the very useful National Anguilla Club websites rig section, and just wondering what everybody uses on there twig rigs when fishing with worms. I ve read that a big eel can snap mono, so have got some drennan soft strand wire. How does wire affect the presentation of worms and smaller baits? Has anybody had success using other materials such as Kryston quicksilver or fox armadillo? I would be interested to know.
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Re: Hook link for eels
Being that the hook link material is inside the twig, it doesn't really matter unless you intend to hair rig baits.
Eels are strong but 10lb mono will be more than enough in most cases!
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Eels are strong but 10lb mono will be more than enough in most cases!
Cheers, Alan
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I've not used the twig, but for non-fish baits I've been using Mason Hard Mono in 20lb. 70lb kevlar catfish hooklink has been eel-proof too, but it's more tangle prone than the stiff mono.
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cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:02 -I’ve got some of fox’s hair braid for hair rigging worms. My only worry with the wire, is breakages when under pressure and being twisted by a hooked eel. I’ve got some drennan mono so will have a play about with it.Being that the hook link material is inside the twig, it doesn't really matter unless you intend to hair rig baits.
Eels are strong but 10lb mono will be more than enough in most cases!
Cheers, Alan
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davelumb wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:24 -Thanks Dave. Do you find the 20lb mono easy to work with when tying knots or do you crimp it? I think I’ll get hold of some catfish hook link, there seems to be some readily available on eBay. I’m not too worried about tangles as it’s not the biggest of rivers.I've not used the twig, but for non-fish baits I've been using Mason Hard Mono in 20lb. 70lb kevlar catfish hooklink has been eel-proof too, but it's more tangle prone than the stiff mono.
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Jack H wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:43 -I've been using double crimps on the mono. It's difficult stuff to track down though.davelumb wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:24 -Thanks Dave. Do you find the 20lb mono easy to work with when tying knots or do you crimp it? I think I’ll get hold of some catfish hook link, there seems to be some readily available on eBay. I’m not too worried about tangles as it’s not the biggest of rivers.I've not used the twig, but for non-fish baits I've been using Mason Hard Mono in 20lb. 70lb kevlar catfish hooklink has been eel-proof too, but it's more tangle prone than the stiff mono.
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What’s the preference on mainline for eels? I’ve got some 60lb Berkeley whiplash on my baitrunners, or is mono a better option?
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Jack H wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:40 -When I did a bit of eel fishing on a pit a few years back I used 20lb 49 strand wire with no problems with eels to 4.12 . Was surprised how hard they can pull for their size .I’d say Alan’s 10lb mono suggestion a bit light but each to their own . I was using 65lb power pro for mainline. I’d rather be overgunned if there is any possibility of a big one. Prawns can be a good bait as can a strip of trout but most of mine came to freshly killed rudd deads .cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:02 -I’ve got some of fox’s hair braid for hair rigging worms. My only worry with the wire, is breakages when under pressure and being twisted by a hooked eel. I’ve got some drennan mono so will have a play about with it.Being that the hook link material is inside the twig, it doesn't really matter unless you intend to hair rig baits.
Eels are strong but 10lb mono will be more than enough in most cases!
Cheers, Alan
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Mattjb wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03 2024 13:20 -cheers. I think I’ll stick with the drennan soft strand and see how I get on. The soft strand is suppose to be quite supple, so hopefully there won’t be any problems with smaller baits like worms. I’ve heard about freshly killed dead’s for eels. I’m not 100% sure what they are feeding on in my local river, so will try worms to begin with.Jack H wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:40 -When I did a bit of eel fishing on a pit a few years back I used 20lb 49 strand wire with no problems with eels to 4.12 . Was surprised how hard they can pull for their size .I’d say Alan’s 10lb mono suggestion a bit light but each to their own . I was using 65lb power pro for mainline. I’d rather be overgunned if there is any possibility of a big one. Prawns can be a good bait as can a strip of trout but most of mine came to freshly killed rudd deads .cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:02 -I’ve got some of fox’s hair braid for hair rigging worms. My only worry with the wire, is breakages when under pressure and being twisted by a hooked eel. I’ve got some drennan mono so will have a play about with it.Being that the hook link material is inside the twig, it doesn't really matter unless you intend to hair rig baits.
Eels are strong but 10lb mono will be more than enough in most cases!
Cheers, Alan
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Re: Hook link for eels
Eels used to make using luncheon meat impossible on the Ribble when it was warm enough for them!
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Jack H wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03 2024 13:34 -I found the best nights were the nights with the hottest temps . Not sure whether that was a thing with that particular pit or eel fishing in general, haven’t done enough of it to find out.Mattjb wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03 2024 13:20 -cheers. I think I’ll stick with the drennan soft strand and see how I get on. The soft strand is suppose to be quite supple, so hopefully there won’t be any problems with smaller baits like worms. I’ve heard about freshly killed dead’s for eels. I’m not 100% sure what they are feeding on in my local river, so will try worms to begin with.Jack H wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:40 -When I did a bit of eel fishing on a pit a few years back I used 20lb 49 strand wire with no problems with eels to 4.12 . Was surprised how hard they can pull for their size .I’d say Alan’s 10lb mono suggestion a bit light but each to their own . I was using 65lb power pro for mainline. I’d rather be overgunned if there is any possibility of a big one. Prawns can be a good bait as can a strip of trout but most of mine came to freshly killed rudd deads .cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:02 -I’ve got some of fox’s hair braid for hair rigging worms. My only worry with the wire, is breakages when under pressure and being twisted by a hooked eel. I’ve got some drennan mono so will have a play about with it.Being that the hook link material is inside the twig, it doesn't really matter unless you intend to hair rig baits.
Eels are strong but 10lb mono will be more than enough in most cases!
Cheers, Alan
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Re: Hook link for eels
Jack H wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:40 -cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:02 -I’ve got some of fox’s hair braid for hair rigging worms. My only worry with the wire, is breakages when under pressure and being twisted by a hooked eel. I’ve got some drennan mono so will have a play about with it.Being that the hook link material is inside the twig, it doesn't really matter unless you intend to hair rig baits.
Eels are strong but 10lb mono will be more than enough in most cases!
Cheers, Alan
Thanks
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i don't fish for them, but my mate does, he put a ball bearing swivel halfway on the trace to eliminate that, i think he was broken once without the swivel, works, he's had a few 6's and even a 7+
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Thanks for the tips chaps. I’ll be ordering some ball bearing swivels to tie up some rigs with. I’ve heard people say that hot, muggy nights are the best for eels.
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Ratty46 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03 2024 16:54 -7+ . There’s something about big eels, truly amazing creatures.Jack H wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:40 -cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02 2024 15:02 -I’ve got some of fox’s hair braid for hair rigging worms. My only worry with the wire, is breakages when under pressure and being twisted by a hooked eel. I’ve got some drennan mono so will have a play about with it.Being that the hook link material is inside the twig, it doesn't really matter unless you intend to hair rig baits.
Eels are strong but 10lb mono will be more than enough in most cases!
Cheers, Alan
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i don't fish for them, but my mate does, he put a ball bearing swivel halfway on the trace to eliminate that, i think he was broken once without the swivel, works, he's had a few 6's and even a 7+
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Re: Hook link for eels
I've been tying twig rigs up with some 20lb wire I got from Steve Moore for perch fishing when pike are present, real supple stuff.
My experience is zero so far but the few mil' sticking out the end of the twig seems to be still quite supple. The whole wire hooklink will be about 5-6" long.
As mentioned on another thread, the masons mono could well be the same as, or very similar to some of the chod link materials carpers use.
My experience is zero so far but the few mil' sticking out the end of the twig seems to be still quite supple. The whole wire hooklink will be about 5-6" long.
As mentioned on another thread, the masons mono could well be the same as, or very similar to some of the chod link materials carpers use.
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Bob Watson wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04 2024 18:27 -I’ve got some ridge monkey chod material in my carp bag. Very stiff, a bit like strimmer line. Not sure how effective it would be on an uneven riverbed. Yes I’ve read that shorter hook links are the way forwardI've been tying twig rigs up with some 20lb wire I got from Steve Moore for perch fishing when pike are present, real supple stuff.
My experience is zero so far but the few mil' sticking out the end of the twig seems to be still quite supple. The whole wire hooklink will be about 5-6" long.
As mentioned on another thread, the masons mono could well be the same as, or very similar to some of the chod link materials carpers use.
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Jack H wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04 2024 20:38 -Bob Watson wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04 2024 18:27 -I’ve got some ridge monkey chod material in my carp bag. Very stiff, a bit like strimmer line. Not sure how effective it would be on an uneven riverbed. Yes I’ve read that shorter hook links are the way forwardI've been tying twig rigs up with some 20lb wire I got from Steve Moore for perch fishing when pike are present, real supple stuff.
My experience is zero so far but the few mil' sticking out the end of the twig seems to be still quite supple. The whole wire hooklink will be about 5-6" long.
As mentioned on another thread, the masons mono could well be the same as, or very similar to some of the chod link materials carpers use.
What do you use for your twigs? I’ve ordered some pre cut acrylic rod from eBay, but it has turned out quite expensive. I’ve seen the carbon rod sold by catfish pro, but seems quite an expensive way of doing it.
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Bob Watson wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04 2024 18:27 -That was the same wire I was using for eels . Got it from Steve for eels and zeds . Great stuff. Pretty sure it’s AFWI've been tying twig rigs up with some 20lb wire I got from Steve Moore for perch fishing when pike are present, real supple stuff.
My experience is zero so far but the few mil' sticking out the end of the twig seems to be still quite supple. The whole wire hooklink will be about 5-6" long.
As mentioned on another thread, the masons mono could well be the same as, or very similar to some of the chod link materials carpers use.
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Where possible I incorporate short(3-4") hooklinks of 60lb shock leader sea line. Size 10 strong barbless hook.with 20lb mono mainline. I've been able to bank eels to over 6lb on this set up.But if you have confidence in your set up and your lip hooking your eels ..no worries.
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davelumb wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03 2024 13:48 -I gave up with meat in the summer for the same reason.Eels used to make using luncheon meat impossible on the Ribble when it was warm enough for them!
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Jack H wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03 2024 17:38 -I think there was a black and white video on here about an eelsman from the fens that said on hot and damp nights when the worms came to the surface, the eels were active.Thanks for the tips chaps. I’ll be ordering some ball bearing swivels to tie up some rigs with. I’ve heard people say that hot, muggy nights are the best for eels.
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I would take his word for it!
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Wayneelman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05 2024 08:16 -Have you had any experience with braided shock leaders Wayne? My only worry with mono thick hooklinks would be them not presenting properly on the bottom.Where possible I incorporate short(3-4") hooklinks of 60lb shock leader sea line. Size 10 strong barbless hook.with 20lb mono mainline. I've been able to bank eels to over 6lb on this set up.But if you have confidence in your set up and your lip hooking your eels ..no worries.
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cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05 2024 08:39 -I’ll have a look for it.Jack H wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03 2024 17:38 -I think there was a black and white video on here about an eelsman from the fens that said on hot and damp nights when the worms came to the surface, the eels were active.Thanks for the tips chaps. I’ll be ordering some ball bearing swivels to tie up some rigs with. I’ve heard people say that hot, muggy nights are the best for eels.
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I would take his word for it!
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Jack H wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05 2024 16:04 -Eels take off-bottom baits. I think I've had more action on off-bottom worms than legered since I started using them regularly. Which has got me thinking I should try them popped up an inch or two as well as on paternoster type rigs.Wayneelman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05 2024 08:16 -Have you had any experience with braided shock leaders Wayne? My only worry with mono thick hooklinks would be them not presenting properly on the bottom.Where possible I incorporate short(3-4") hooklinks of 60lb shock leader sea line. Size 10 strong barbless hook.with 20lb mono mainline. I've been able to bank eels to over 6lb on this set up.But if you have confidence in your set up and your lip hooking your eels ..no worries.
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davelumb wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05 2024 16:08 -How do you fish them off bottom Dave? Do you use a poly ball on the hook link?Jack H wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05 2024 16:04 -Eels take off-bottom baits. I think I've had more action on off-bottom worms than legered since I started using them regularly. Which has got me thinking I should try them popped up an inch or two as well as on paternoster type rigs.Wayneelman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05 2024 08:16 -Have you had any experience with braided shock leaders Wayne? My only worry with mono thick hooklinks would be them not presenting properly on the bottom.Where possible I incorporate short(3-4") hooklinks of 60lb shock leader sea line. Size 10 strong barbless hook.with 20lb mono mainline. I've been able to bank eels to over 6lb on this set up.But if you have confidence in your set up and your lip hooking your eels ..no worries.
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Jack H wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05 2024 17:05 -Like this.davelumb wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05 2024 16:08 -How do you fish them off bottom Dave? Do you use a poly ball on the hook link?Jack H wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05 2024 16:04 -Eels take off-bottom baits. I think I've had more action on off-bottom worms than legered since I started using them regularly. Which has got me thinking I should try them popped up an inch or two as well as on paternoster type rigs.Wayneelman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05 2024 08:16 -Have you had any experience with braided shock leaders Wayne? My only worry with mono thick hooklinks would be them not presenting properly on the bottom.Where possible I incorporate short(3-4") hooklinks of 60lb shock leader sea line. Size 10 strong barbless hook.with 20lb mono mainline. I've been able to bank eels to over 6lb on this set up.But if you have confidence in your set up and your lip hooking your eels ..no worries.
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Jack..I've employed braids of differing features..but gone back to stiff nylon for its anti tangle properties both on and off bottom rigs(paternoster).Incorporated with a stocking net mesh ball of bait tied off with dental floss.The fine mesh snags the eels hacksaw like teeth.
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Many thanks both for the advice, it’s been very helpful
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Wayneelman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05 2024 17:49 -I might give the mesh a try.Jack..I've employed braids of differing features..but gone back to stiff nylon for its anti tangle properties both on and off bottom rigs(paternoster).Incorporated with a stocking net mesh ball of bait tied off with dental floss.The fine mesh snags the eels hacksaw like teeth.
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Mattjb wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04 2024 23:06 -Hey Matt,Bob Watson wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04 2024 18:27 -That was the same wire I was using for eels . Got it from Steve for eels and zeds . Great stuff. Pretty sure it’s AFWI've been tying twig rigs up with some 20lb wire I got from Steve Moore for perch fishing when pike are present, real supple stuff.
My experience is zero so far but the few mil' sticking out the end of the twig seems to be still quite supple. The whole wire hooklink will be about 5-6" long.
As mentioned on another thread, the masons mono could well be the same as, or very similar to some of the chod link materials carpers use.
Is that the Calibre Wonder Wire? I found some in my vintage trace wire tin...
How did you make up the traces? I searched and found you have to heat in a flame before you cut it, but I can't find a recommended knot and it is unlikely I will find a crimp small enough.
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