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Kev Berry wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27 2020 23:57 -No shortage of decent dace in there though Kev, everyone I had was far better than the stamp down here ...Talking to a guy today who has had zeds to 17 plus out of somewhere beginning with T.....he uses big baits, 8oz plus if he can get them.
Reckons he has had more big zeds on big dace than using roach.
Stewlaws wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28 2020 12:49 -Theres been more than a few getting very close to a pound Stew, cant bring myself to use them that sizeKev Berry wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27 2020 23:57 -No shortage of decent dace in there though Kev, everyone I had was far better than the stamp down here ...Talking to a guy today who has had zeds to 17 plus out of somewhere beginning with T.....he uses big baits, 8oz plus if he can get them.
Reckons he has had more big zeds on big dace than using roach.
Emma Hamilton wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28 2020 12:19 -I can recall being slated when I started to talk about catching zander on seabaits. I even had letters going in to Pike and Predator taking a swipe at me from a few faces, one actually called my captures flukes. Then at a PAC meeting where said accusers were present, I put up a few slides of zander on seabaits and the room went a bit quiet. LOL. Definitely not a go to bait for zander, but on certain waters they work and do catch the bigger fish as well. One of the Fen rivers I have fished does zander on herring often enough that I will always put one rod out on that when targeting zander. Chances are, if one picks it up, it'll be a double. Then there's a few drains where sardines have done well. Still waters that see a lot of pike fishing will produce zander on seabaits - instinctively they know it is food I guess. But elsewhere I wouldn't bother. I've got pass the fluke capture thing that gets aired, as I have quite deliberately fished with seabaits for zander and caught. Not just me, there's quite a few people I know who do that. But, yeah, I'd pick and choose where to use them carefully.With the possibility to fish a couple or more rods I'll have different baits/sizes on most of the time, things can get skewed as baits in use are generally what you've collected, you cant always collect baits of the sizes big or small that you want! What you can do is cut bigger baits up and fish bits of flesh. I'll normally muck about during a trip with one rod fishing dead bits, happy I've got some blood and guts in the water.
I wouldn't be too fussed on bait size, decent zander will chomp anything they can get down their necks if they are feeding well. Ive found there are often days when a dead bait will out fish live baits and vice versa. Bait size for me is less of a consideration overall.
The sea bait thing is interesting as very few big zander that I'm hoping to catch have tripped up on a sea-dead bait, I've not tried them but may be missing a trick. I really should give them a go.
rob
Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28 2020 18:47 -Interesting that you say that, Mark. I remember all that from the 90’s too.Emma Hamilton wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28 2020 12:19 -I can recall being slated when I started to talk about catching zander on seabaits. I even had letters going in to Pike and Predator taking a swipe at me from a few faces, one actually called my captures flukes. Then at a PAC meeting where said accusers were present, I put up a few slides of zander on seabaits and the room went a bit quiet. LOL. Definitely not a go to bait for zander, but on certain waters they work and do catch the bigger fish as well. One of the Fen rivers I have fished does zander on herring often enough that I will always put one rod out on that when targeting zander. Chances are, if one picks it up, it'll be a double. Then there's a few drains where sardines have done well. Still waters that see a lot of pike fishing will produce zander on seabaits - instinctively they know it is food I guess. But elsewhere I wouldn't bother. I've got pass the fluke capture thing that gets aired, as I have quite deliberately fished with seabaits for zander and caught. Not just me, there's quite a few people I know who do that. But, yeah, I'd pick and choose where to use them carefully.With the possibility to fish a couple or more rods I'll have different baits/sizes on most of the time, things can get skewed as baits in use are generally what you've collected, you cant always collect baits of the sizes big or small that you want! What you can do is cut bigger baits up and fish bits of flesh. I'll normally muck about during a trip with one rod fishing dead bits, happy I've got some blood and guts in the water.
I wouldn't be too fussed on bait size, decent zander will chomp anything they can get down their necks if they are feeding well. Ive found there are often days when a dead bait will out fish live baits and vice versa. Bait size for me is less of a consideration overall.
The sea bait thing is interesting as very few big zander that I'm hoping to catch have tripped up on a sea-dead bait, I've not tried them but may be missing a trick. I really should give them a go.
rob
