Pike killer
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does not make any sense keeping them in an flooded area .......why would you do that
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If you don't know that area
You can walk to it or go up the river and get to it
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You can walk to it or go up the river and get to it
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stubbojo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05 2022 20:39 -Exactly, he didn't catch from this "flooded area" so why put them back there? Is 6 inches of a muddy field any better than a keepnet? Comes back to the complete apathy of the bailiffs, if this guy thought there was any chance of seeing a bailiff he wouldn't have taken the risk of a) sharing this photo and b) messing around retaining fish for some "potential" photodoes not make any sense keeping them in an flooded area .......why would you do that
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c14r4n wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06 2022 00:40 -that was my polnt , they have not gone back these fish , even someone with half a brain would not move them from where ever, boat or bank and take photos in a flooded field nar not having it ....out and out poacher...if not a serious numpty angler....stubbojo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05 2022 20:39 -Exactly, he didn't catch from this "flooded area" so why put them back there? Is 6 inches of a muddy field any better than a keepnet? Comes back to the complete apathy of the bailiffs, if this guy thought there was any chance of seeing a bailiff he wouldn't have taken the risk of a) sharing this photo and b) messing around retaining fish for some "potential" photodoes not make any sense keeping them in an flooded area .......why would you do that
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Re: Pike killer
Shouldn't keep multiple pike for pictures, I understand maybe a double hook up but that guys got 5. Ridiculous
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Sean Roberts wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23 2022 20:20 -They are dead, photographing them all together would go some way to saving some wear and tear on the shutter button.Shouldn't keep multiple pike for pictures, I understand maybe a double hook up but that guys got 5. Ridiculous
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Steve Le maitre wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26 2022 18:56 -good point steveSean Roberts wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23 2022 20:20 -They are dead, photographing them all together would go some way to saving some wear and tear on the shutter button.Shouldn't keep multiple pike for pictures, I understand maybe a double hook up but that guys got 5. Ridiculous
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stubbojo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26 2022 21:48 -What else for a sick picture than a bit of dark humourSteve Le maitre wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26 2022 18:56 -good point steveSean Roberts wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23 2022 20:20 -They are dead, photographing them all together would go some way to saving some wear and tear on the shutter button.Shouldn't keep multiple pike for pictures, I understand maybe a double hook up but that guys got 5. Ridiculous
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Marks comments above are correct from what i heard when the FB was posted, the Guy who shared the post is not who actually caught these pike and is quite a well known Lomond angler who does care for the pike and posted to try and get a name to pass on to the bailiffs but apparently there was around 6 so called pike anglers all Scottish who caught them between themselves have no idea of the timescale between the catches or how long they were kept in the floodwater.
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still cant get my head around why they would keep them all together , not as if they were all caught at the same time , more like netted all together at the same time ...nawwww
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Is the fellas name Marek Starek? Surely should not be too difficult to find out who he is. Would his name suggest he is from Eastern Europe?
Where I live in Northern Highlands. Eastern Europe fishers and Polish in particular were and still are responsible for killing big numbers of pike . Big pregnant females, small Jack's, one killed a 12lb Ferox and when he was seen chapping it on the head and asked what he was doing , replied killing his dinner and didn't even know what species of fish it was.
Where I live in Northern Highlands. Eastern Europe fishers and Polish in particular were and still are responsible for killing big numbers of pike . Big pregnant females, small Jack's, one killed a 12lb Ferox and when he was seen chapping it on the head and asked what he was doing , replied killing his dinner and didn't even know what species of fish it was.
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Mr Ferox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04 2022 14:46 -Seen kids early one morning at Luss hauling a pike up the 8’ onto the pier and killing it and carting it off in a net, that was not during school holidays so imagine the fun they have when they don’t have school.Is the fellas name Marek Starek? Surely should not be too difficult to find out who he is. Would his name suggest he is from Eastern Europe?
Where I live in Northern Highlands. Eastern Europe fishers and Polish in particular were and still are responsible for killing big numbers of pike . Big pregnant females, small Jack's, one killed a 12lb Ferox and when he was seen chapping it on the head and asked what he was doing , replied killing his dinner and didn't even know what species of fish it was.
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if its a food item , it wont mater if it was the record fish of all time ......surely these guys are not starving to death......
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Something to think about
If someone asks the question why they are catching pike of sub 10lb fish in their LAKE the reply’s are usually something has caused an imbalance within the population usually through predation.
There did seem to be many small pike even out in open deep water, so obviously comfortable that their not getting eaten naturally, until hooked.
What I found disturbing is the (and I’m not including pike anglers like myself who respect the welfare of the pike) is the attitude of some locals and the rangers that it is still acceptable to chap fish on the head regardless of species.
With the lack of the big Salmon how many get chapped when a pike dares to pick up one of their lures.
One things for sure they do like a Myth up there. The amount of 2m long monsters of the deep stories we were told was laughable some need more water with their
If someone asks the question why they are catching pike of sub 10lb fish in their LAKE the reply’s are usually something has caused an imbalance within the population usually through predation.
There did seem to be many small pike even out in open deep water, so obviously comfortable that their not getting eaten naturally, until hooked.
What I found disturbing is the (and I’m not including pike anglers like myself who respect the welfare of the pike) is the attitude of some locals and the rangers that it is still acceptable to chap fish on the head regardless of species.
With the lack of the big Salmon how many get chapped when a pike dares to pick up one of their lures.
One things for sure they do like a Myth up there. The amount of 2m long monsters of the deep stories we were told was laughable some need more water with their
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Cyprio wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05 2022 10:31 -food for thought , just thinking all or most of us can remember good pike waters where you could catch a 20lb fish and plenty of high doubles .......Something to think about
If someone asks the question why they are catching pike of sub 10lb fish in their LAKE the reply’s are usually something has caused an imbalance within the population usually through predation.
There did seem to be many small pike even out in open deep water, so obviously comfortable that their not getting eaten naturally, until hooked.
What I found disturbing is the (and I’m not including pike anglers like myself who respect the welfare of the pike) is the attitude of some locals and the rangers that it is still acceptable to chap fish on the head regardless of species.
With the lack of the big Salmon how many get chapped when a pike dares to pick up one of their lures.
One things for sure they do like a Myth up there. The amount of 2m long monsters of the deep stories we were told was laughable some need more water with their
back in the day there was the odd carp in these venues , not anymore they are now full of carp and big ones too...
my kio carp in my pond will eat any fish say under 50mm maybe bigger , does anybody think the big carp explosion has been detrimental to the pike numbers
these carp could be eating the pike fry in really big numbers probably not just pike fry tench fry too ,any thought on this carp could be pike killers too
i know most fish could eat each other at some stage of development , but the amount of carp going in these venue is frightening......
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stubbojo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05 2022 23:22 -one venue I fish for eels the carp will eat live and dead roach 3-- 4oz, full or halved, feckin nuisanceCyprio wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05 2022 10:31 -food for thought , just thinking all or most of us can remember good pike waters where you could catch a 20lb fish and plenty of high doubles .......Something to think about
If someone asks the question why they are catching pike of sub 10lb fish in their LAKE the reply’s are usually something has caused an imbalance within the population usually through predation.
There did seem to be many small pike even out in open deep water, so obviously comfortable that their not getting eaten naturally, until hooked.
What I found disturbing is the (and I’m not including pike anglers like myself who respect the welfare of the pike) is the attitude of some locals and the rangers that it is still acceptable to chap fish on the head regardless of species.
With the lack of the big Salmon how many get chapped when a pike dares to pick up one of their lures.
One things for sure they do like a Myth up there. The amount of 2m long monsters of the deep stories we were told was laughable some need more water with their
back in the day there was the odd carp in these venues , not anymore they are now full of carp and big ones too...
my kio carp in my pond will eat any fish say under 50mm maybe bigger , does anybody think the big carp explosion has been detrimental to the pike numbers
these carp could be eating the pike fry in really big numbers probably not just pike fry tench fry too ,any thought on this carp could be pike killers too
i know most fish could eat each other at some stage of development , but the amount of carp going in these venue is frightening......
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Really? I thought carp were strictly boilies, flaked bread etc. Didn't know they had a dark streak in them!
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Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08 2022 22:57 -Biggest I have had is 19lb
Heres a pic of the first one I caught...only took it cos I was astounded at catching it on half a roach
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Kev Berry wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09 2022 00:19 -Have you caught carp on fish baits anywhere else? It's not something I've ever experienced.Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08 2022 22:57 -Biggest I have had is 19lb
Heres a pic of the first one I caught...only took it cos I was astounded at catching it on half a roach
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Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09 2022 00:32 -No only this pond.Kev Berry wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09 2022 00:19 -Have you caught carp on fish baits anywhere else? It's not something I've ever experienced.Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08 2022 22:57 -Biggest I have had is 19lb
Heres a pic of the first one I caught...only took it cos I was astounded at catching it on half a roach
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Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09 2022 01:09 -Its a bit of a noddy pond...but the little beck that feeds it eventually goes into the Trent, which is where the eels came from
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Kev Berry wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09 2022 01:13 -Carp will certainly take many odd things, including fish, at times (I think Mark Barrett had a 30+ on a livebait from memory?). It would be a first for me though.Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09 2022 01:09 -Its a bit of a noddy pond...but the little beck that feeds it eventually goes into the Trent, which is where the eels came from
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I hooked a Carp fairly and square in the mouth, while using a small Roach live bait.
( Intended for Perch face ).
( Intended for Perch face ).
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I have caught carp on lives and deads in the past and several times on small lures like a mepps.
As a youth I fished a local gravel pit that had been dug less than 15 years, where you could regularly catch larger roach, hybrids and even tench on a small mepps while targeting perch. After pike were introduced we rarely caught anything except perch and jacks on lures.
Most course fish will be actively predatory under certain circumstances. We used to see larger Roach and bream fry feeding on the trout fisheries at certain times of year if other food was scarce and barbel will often take a ledgered minnow intended for chub.
When I studied fisheries management the general theory was that a healthy ecosystem within a fishery would balance to around 25% of its biomass being predatory in some form. That might be as scavengers of sick or dead fish, or as active predators. Any more than that and the predators would struggle, any less and the fishery was prone to disease, stunted populations and fish kills.
Carp have a negative effect on the ecosystem they inhabit by the amount of rooting around they do. I acts as an environmental modifier where the habitat becomes more and more suitable for them and less suitable for other species.
As a youth I fished a local gravel pit that had been dug less than 15 years, where you could regularly catch larger roach, hybrids and even tench on a small mepps while targeting perch. After pike were introduced we rarely caught anything except perch and jacks on lures.
Most course fish will be actively predatory under certain circumstances. We used to see larger Roach and bream fry feeding on the trout fisheries at certain times of year if other food was scarce and barbel will often take a ledgered minnow intended for chub.
When I studied fisheries management the general theory was that a healthy ecosystem within a fishery would balance to around 25% of its biomass being predatory in some form. That might be as scavengers of sick or dead fish, or as active predators. Any more than that and the predators would struggle, any less and the fishery was prone to disease, stunted populations and fish kills.
Carp have a negative effect on the ecosystem they inhabit by the amount of rooting around they do. I acts as an environmental modifier where the habitat becomes more and more suitable for them and less suitable for other species.
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One season, had tench a number of times on roach livebaits. Put it down to post spawning activity.
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Mr Ferox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04 2022 14:46 -Is the fellas name Marek Starek? Surely should not be too difficult to find out who he is. Would his name suggest he is from Eastern Europe?
Where I live in Northern Highlands. Eastern Europe fishers and Polish in particular were and still are responsible for killing big numbers of pike . Big pregnant females, small Jack's, one killed a 12lb Ferox and when he was seen chapping it on the head and asked what he was doing , replied killing his dinner and didn't even know what species of fish it was.
Marek Starek is the one highlighting the post. I know him, he's one of the good guys.
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did anybody know the guy in the picture and his storey