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Slider Fishing

Post by Jason Skilton » Sun Aug 16 2020 18:36

OMG....why have I not tried this sooner in life :grin:
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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Jason Skilton » Mon Aug 17 2020 07:10

For the first in a long while I ahve learnt something very new. Using a 10g loaded slider river to fish a river where the depth was from 17ft.

I can't believe how sensitive the rig was and how versatile.
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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Mike J » Mon Aug 17 2020 10:51

Ah been there done that :grin:

My deeep hole produced some nice 2+ Roach laying on the near bank, a record chub that morphed into a double figure carp at the net and tons of eels.

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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Bob Watson » Mon Aug 17 2020 17:01

I fish the sliding float for anything over 7-8ft deep. It makes casting far easier!
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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Jason Skilton » Tue Aug 18 2020 08:22

Bob Watson wrote:
I fish the sliding float for anything over 7-8ft deep. It makes casting far easier!
Doesn't it just!

So what floats are do you use?

I've gone for Cralusso pro sliders in 10g.
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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Mike J » Tue Aug 18 2020 08:54

Jason Skilton wrote:
Bob Watson wrote:
I fish the sliding float for anything over 7-8ft deep. It makes casting far easier!
Doesn't it just!

So what floats are do you use?

I've gone for Cralusso pro sliders in 10g.

Cralusso floats - simply the finest floats on the market by miles.
Each model superbly designed and made with quality materials including rock hard bodies, adjustable design allows for less shotting worries and they will last a lifetime.

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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Bob Watson » Tue Aug 18 2020 10:17

Jason Skilton wrote:
Bob Watson wrote:
I fish the sliding float for anything over 7-8ft deep. It makes casting far easier!
Doesn't it just!

So what floats are do you use?

I've gone for Cralusso pro sliders in 10g.
Depends on the conditions. A straight waggler if choppy and there is undertow or an insert in flat calm. Weight depending on casting distance.

I just use cheap off the shelf floats, peacocks, drennan crystals etc.

Basically the same crateria as normal.

Bulk shot set anywhere from a third upto half depth.
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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Jason Skilton » Tue Aug 18 2020 11:41

The bulk shot is the bit I struggle with (6 ssg), so have no bought some 8g olivettes instead.

I'm actually really excited about the whole method as I simple love watching a float go under and the versitility of the method is amazing.
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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Mike J » Tue Aug 18 2020 12:01

Jason Skilton wrote:
The bulk shot is the bit I struggle with (6 ssg), so have no bought some 8g olivettes instead.

I'm actually really excited about the whole method as I simple love watching a float go under and the versitility of the method is amazing.

I only use olivettes, Ive found the line thu Drennens are the best. Tip - don't try doubling them up if you dont have the correct weight, shots are better until you can buy the right size of find some old barrel leads.

I fish heavy in deep holes, 16lb running line (braid), 5-6ft of 6-8lb fluoro the oli with a small float stop each side, #24 match swivel, 3-4ft of 4-5lb fluoro hooklength with a shot to balance the tackle and a 10-12 hook. Always fished holding back hard with big bow wave off the float because the bottom current is usually non exisitant.
Ive learnt the hard way to go heavy and use big hooks and the fish dont seem to mind, finessing it isnt, catching it is.

And dont forget a bait dropper.


PS I believe the Clarusso float systems were designed to negate the ban on ledgering in international match fishing, hence their flexibility.
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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by BillCollins » Tue Aug 18 2020 12:53

I fish the slider quite a lot for bream here. It suits most of the stillwaters, a lot of which are deep close in, I also use it from the boat both on lakes and also fishing some big bolo/avons on the river. Olivettes are ok but can be a nuisance if conditions change and it suits to change to a bigger or smaller float. I prefer using LG size shot for the bulk, a few large shot have less tendency to tangle than using more SSG or AA, which I've seen some people using. Also, for any distance casting, a long tail is less inclined to tangle. I usually have about 5ft between the bulk and the hook, with droppers spaced accordingly, normally no.1's, or paired 4's. Irrespective of what you're fishing for, things work better with heavier mainline, I use around 10lb or 0.26mm. I have a tube full of Crallusso crystals with the matching tubing and bullets but I hardly ever use them, they're more hassle than they're worth, plus they leak if used for repeated distance casting. I have plenty of sliders from Sensas and Trabucco etc, which are easy to get working as you want them to.
Also, the absolute need for a long rod is a myth, a 14-15ft'er is a good allround usable length.

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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Bob Watson » Tue Aug 18 2020 13:24

I've never found the need for a rod longer than my standard 13' for slider fishing Bill, to me it's one of the reasons of using the method, to avoid the use of long rods👍

I use an 11' 9" avon for tench on a small local pit casting into small holes in the weed in about 8' of water. The short length of rig between float and hook means getting everything in the hole is easier.

I've even used a slider in quite shallow water for the same reason.

Very versatile method
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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by BillCollins » Tue Aug 18 2020 13:31

You're right there Bob about it being handy even in shallower water. Like you, I use it to drop baits accurately in to tight spots for tench.
The mention of rod length was in relation to what seems to be a commom perception that rods of 16-20ft are needed. I use whatever float rod I feel like using, as long as it can cast a big float.

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Post by Iain Gillies » Tue Aug 18 2020 18:25

I dont know why but I have tried this method several times on slow moving deep rivers and end up with tangles. I suspect its to do with my set up and distances to bulk although I have watch videos and do feather my casts. If I can get away with it I fish 6m whip to hand so I can trot the rig through slowly or fish a 18' bolo rod instead.

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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Duncan Holmes » Tue Aug 18 2020 19:02

Mike J wrote:
Jason Skilton wrote:
The bulk shot is the bit I struggle with (6 ssg), so have no bought some 8g olivettes instead.

I'm actually really excited about the whole method as I simple love watching a float go under and the versitility of the method is amazing.

I only use olivettes, Ive found the line thu Drennens are the best. Tip - don't try doubling them up if you dont have the correct weight, shots are better until you can buy the right size of find some old barrel leads.

I fish heavy in deep holes, 16lb running line (braid), 5-6ft of 6-8lb fluoro the oli with a small float stop each side, #24 match swivel, 3-4ft of 4-5lb fluoro hooklength with a shot to balance the tackle and a 10-12 hook. Always fished holding back hard with big bow wave off the float because the bottom current is usually non exisitant.
Ive learnt the hard way to go heavy and use big hooks and the fish dont seem to mind, finessing it isnt, catching it is.

And dont forget a bait dropper.


PS I believe the Clarusso float systems were designed to negate the ban on ledgering in international match fishing, hence their flexibility.
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"I only use olivettes, Ive found the line thu Drennens are the best. "

Absolutely, I use these for any "bulk" shot style.
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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Bob Watson » Tue Aug 18 2020 19:04

Iain Gillies wrote:
I dont know why but I have tried this method several times on slow moving deep rivers and end up with tangles. I suspect its to do with my set up and distances to bulk although I have watch videos and do feather my casts. If I can get away with it I fish 6m whip to hand so I can trot the rig through slowly or fish a 18' bolo rod instead.
Don't go too light, especially with a sliding stick, you need the bulk shot to keep the mainline down and not be pulled up through the float.

A small shot, no 6 or 4, a couple of feet above the bulk shot for the float to sit on helps too!
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Post by Iain Gillies » Tue Aug 18 2020 22:25

Thanks Bob, I suspect you know where I am trying to fish the slider. I will give your tip a go and see if I get on any better. Although I like fishing the whip and the bolo rod it does get heavy on the arms after a few hours. It is much nicer watching a float as opposed to watching for the tip to twitch though. Cheers, Iain

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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Mike J » Wed Aug 19 2020 00:36

Iain Gillies wrote:
I dont know why but I have tried this method several times on slow moving deep rivers and end up with tangles. I suspect its to do with my set up and distances to bulk although I have watch videos and do feather my casts. If I can get away with it I fish 6m whip to hand so I can trot the rig through slowly or fish a 18' bolo rod instead.

Many years ago I was fishing some v deep pits at extremes distances for Rudd using sliding 12-14" long missiles, 8lb mono on a 12ft Normark (original version).
With those rigs it was only possible to avoid tangles by keeping 3-4ft between the lower bulk 5-6SSG shot and a swan shot under the float and keeping the hooklength to under 2.5ft.

These days nothing beats the Clarusso Rocket float for sheer distance, non tangling and accuracy.
If you haven't tried one you've never really float fished, yes they are that good infact Ive even tried modifying one into a slider.

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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Jason Skilton » Wed Aug 19 2020 07:40

Been using a stepped up float rod in 13ft and would you to be great so far. I keen to use this method for tench and break on the gravel pits. Beats sitting behind buzzers all day.

I'm going to add in a swivel to attach the hooklink too as suggested.
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Post by Mike J » Wed Aug 19 2020 10:10

Jason Skilton wrote:
Been using a stepped up float rod in 13ft and would you to be great so far. I keen to use this method for tench and break on the gravel pits. Beats sitting behind buzzers all day.

I'm going to add in a swivel to attach the hooklink too as suggested.

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the Preston #24 Match Swivel breaks at just under 30lb
the tube bead line attachment on the Rocket float is easiest to use with mono
a heavy Rocket float can be fished just under the rod tip if needed
Can be fished tight against a reed bed as the float always lands infront of the end tackle
for sensitivity/lift bites the calibrated Light Rocket with a flag tip is brilliant (caught me bigger Roach than heli feeders).

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Post by Daniel » Wed Aug 19 2020 17:55

A cracking video about slider fishing from cadence.

https://youtu.be/ztYjqQbH9Rw

Have a look through their videos, they are excellent, very informative.

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Post by Bob Watson » Wed Aug 19 2020 19:29

An old master explains in a bit more detail.
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Post by hb904460 » Wed Aug 19 2020 20:44

The only slider float i have used is an original Ian Heaps. I went to watch his roadshows about 5 times, including one at Tattershall Leisure Centre where i won it in the raffle.
I stayed behind after the show ended, my dad was one of the organisers, and listened to Ian chat until the early hours. Really nice, knowledgeable guy. He gave me his groundbait bucket and spare groundbait after doing his demonstration of mixing and baiting up in the middle of the room! I still have the 6m Silstar whip he recommended.
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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Lucy S » Sat Aug 22 2020 18:27

Is the slider a better option over the locslide?
I rarely do any course fishing but was confronted with a 15' swim last weekend and just used the feeder but would rather watch a float

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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Mike J » Mon Aug 24 2020 09:41

Lucy S wrote:
Is the slider a better option over the locslide?
I rarely do any course fishing but was confronted with a 15' swim last weekend and just used the feeder but would rather watch a float

For lift and bites on the drop I find the slider provides a better indication
to remove the line angle a high backward sweep is required to set the hook so its worth doing a calculation.
interchangeable tips in various colours and sizes certsinly help as bites and available light change.
the Rocket float has been proved to cast further than any normal slider.
Never used a locslide.

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Post by Bob Watson » Mon Aug 24 2020 20:31

Locslides and polaris floats are designed to be used with a feeder or lead weight.

They can be excellent on their day. Bite registration is surprisingly sensitive.
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Post by Jason Skilton » Mon Aug 24 2020 22:26

Always found locslides to be fragile
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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Mark Phillips » Tue Aug 25 2020 18:46

Jason Skilton wrote:
OMG....why have I not tried this sooner in life :grin:
I was catching skimmers using a slider when I was a teenager :smile:
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Re: Slider Fishing

Post by Ally » Fri Nov 20 2020 14:26

Sliders are great. Used them a lot once when I fished deep lakes. But not for a few years.

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