Irish trip last week.
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Irish trip last week.
I'm not long back from a week in Galway, visiting my twin brother Rob.
On our last trip (pre lockdown) the weather was too rough to get out to sea, but this time the weather was perfect.
Found the mackerel almost immediately and I managed to get our bait in just two drops down with the feathers. A string of four on the first drop and a 'full house' of five on the second!
We motored out 10 miles offshore and drifted, hoping the blues would pick up on the chum trail.
With the bag in only 20 minutes, and the baits out even less, Rob was soon into a fish that didn't seem that big at first, as it came towards the boat quite easily - and then it promptly smoked his reel on a 250' crash dive!
6' 1" female porbeagle, possibly over 200lb! We must have virtually dropped right on her.
Sadly the blues never showed all day - perhaps we were a few weeks too late this time? (Rob didn't seem too bothered though! ).
I had to make do with a couple of nice spurdogs and a rake of big pollack this time out. But there's always a next time!
On our last trip (pre lockdown) the weather was too rough to get out to sea, but this time the weather was perfect.
Found the mackerel almost immediately and I managed to get our bait in just two drops down with the feathers. A string of four on the first drop and a 'full house' of five on the second!
We motored out 10 miles offshore and drifted, hoping the blues would pick up on the chum trail.
With the bag in only 20 minutes, and the baits out even less, Rob was soon into a fish that didn't seem that big at first, as it came towards the boat quite easily - and then it promptly smoked his reel on a 250' crash dive!
6' 1" female porbeagle, possibly over 200lb! We must have virtually dropped right on her.
Sadly the blues never showed all day - perhaps we were a few weeks too late this time? (Rob didn't seem too bothered though! ).
I had to make do with a couple of nice spurdogs and a rake of big pollack this time out. But there's always a next time!
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"He's some sort of lure savant. Or just has an unhealthy addiction to old lures. We are not quite sure . . . . . "
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Fantastic pictures John
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suffolk si wrote: βMon Sep 13 2021 07:15 -I was especially pleased with the action shots of the fish at the side of the boat Si, considering they were just taken on my phone with me leaning over the side.Fantastic pictures John
One reflection, the skipper, Rob and I decided that we'd skip bringing a fish that size on board for the 'Trophy shot' if we're lucky another time. It took all three of us to lift it and it was a bit too hairy all round!
It would have been better to measure, tag and T bar the hook out (bronzed, de-barbed) in the water for a boatside release, we decided.
(afterwards! ).
It was tagged and went back OK though.
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Great stuff John.
On my bucket list!
On my bucket list!
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John Milford wrote: βMon Sep 13 2021 11:07 -That looks a fun day out for allsuffolk si wrote: βMon Sep 13 2021 07:15 -I was especially pleased with the action shots of the fish at the side of the boat Si, considering they were just taken on my phone with me leaning over the side.Fantastic pictures John
One reflection, the skipper, Rob and I decided that we'd skip bringing a fish that size on board for the 'Trophy shot' if we're lucky another time. It took all three of us to lift it and it was a bit too hairy all round!
It would have been better to measure, tag and T bar the hook out (bronzed, de-barbed) in the water for a boatside release, we decided.
(afterwards! ).
It was tagged and went back OK though.
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I take it you were furthest from the pointy end on its return
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Some great photos there John, nice one mate
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John, have a look on Youtube at G Smith kayak angling. He,s an irish fella who has caught Blues and Porbeagles from his kayak off Donegal coastline, not small ones either, estimated 300 pounders witnessed by a fisheries boat.
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Fantastic stuff, some nice pics too, no wonder your brother was chuffed, he looks like he's hit the jackpot and he has
Out of interest, what gear did he land it on, line strength and wire strength, there's a few off our coastline but been a bit of a shortage of mackerel for baiting up
Out of interest, what gear did he land it on, line strength and wire strength, there's a few off our coastline but been a bit of a shortage of mackerel for baiting up
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Brian Carragher wrote: βMon Sep 13 2021 18:54 -Rob used the skipper's set-up Brian - good kit - Sean only trusts American end tackle for sharking and has no time for any Chinese components!Fantastic stuff, some nice pics too, no wonder your brother was chuffed, he looks like he's hit the jackpot and he has
Out of interest, what gear did he land it on, line strength and wire strength, there's a few off our coastline but been a bit of a shortage of mackerel for baiting up
I can only tell you exactly what mine was, but it was all bought based on Sean's expert guidance a few years ago.
50lb line class rod, Penn Senator 114H, 60lb mono, 250 lb hard-mono rubbing leader, 275lb AFW 49 strand wire and 10/0 bronzed mustad (crushed barbs). I had a lighter 30lb class outfit with a Penn 112 for the bottom fishing.
The skipper's kit was pretty much as above, but with modern Shimano reels (although he really loved my old Senators! ).
Some people reckon 30lb class rods are adequate for sharking, but take a look at the bend in Rob's 50lb class outfit and decide for yourself!
"He's some sort of lure savant. Or just has an unhealthy addiction to old lures. We are not quite sure . . . . . "
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Fancy giving it a bash Bri??
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John Milford wrote: βMon Sep 13 2021 21:22 -Grey area John, where would my 30-50lb class rod stand?Brian Carragher wrote: βMon Sep 13 2021 18:54 -Rob used the skipper's set-up Brian - good kit - Sean only trusts American end tackle for sharking and has no time for any Chinese components!Fantastic stuff, some nice pics too, no wonder your brother was chuffed, he looks like he's hit the jackpot and he has
Out of interest, what gear did he land it on, line strength and wire strength, there's a few off our coastline but been a bit of a shortage of mackerel for baiting up
I can only tell you exactly what mine was, but it was all bought based on Sean's expert guidance a few years ago.
50lb line class rod, Penn Senator 114H, 60lb mono, 250 lb hard-mono rubbing leader, 275lb AFW 49 strand wire and 10/0 bronzed mustad (crushed barbs). I had a lighter 30lb class outfit with a Penn 112 for the bottom fishing.
The skipper's kit was pretty much as above, but with modern Shimano reels (although he really loved my old Senators! ).
Some people reckon 30lb class rods are adequate for sharking, but take a look at the bend in Rob's 50lb class outfit and decide for yourself!
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Another question John;
What knot do you connect the 60lb mainline to the 250lb rubbing leader with? Then is it a swivel from leader to wire trace?
What knot do you connect the 60lb mainline to the 250lb rubbing leader with? Then is it a swivel from leader to wire trace?
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Bob Watson wrote: βMon Sep 13 2021 22:18 -I attach the leader via a coast-lock swivel tied with a palomar onto the main line. The rubbing leader is far too thick to knot Bob, so double barrel crimps are used to form the loops. There probably are knots that Mike J will know of, but nothing I'd attempt!Another question John;
What knot do you connect the 60lb mainline to the 250lb rubbing leader with? Then is it a swivel from leader to wire trace?
My rubbing leaders were 12ft, with a swivel at the top and a link swivel at the bottom. BIG, strong ones - exactly the same as we use for Spanish cats. They're that long as the sharks will spin and their skin will make mincemeat out of the 60lb mainline - as would the boat's hull, once they're thrashing alongside.
The wire is 3ft with a swivel at the top. The last few inches at the business end is doubled, like this photo I copied.
(All my loops are formed like those. Alternatively, you can get metal 'loop protectors'. Probably a bit O.T.T. - but the way I figure it, getting latched into a shark is not something I'm going to experience very often, so I want everything to be absolutely spot-on!).
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John Milford wrote: βTue Sep 14 2021 10:21 -Thanks JohnBob Watson wrote: βMon Sep 13 2021 22:18 -I attach the leader via a coast-lock swivel tied with a palomar onto the main line. The rubbing leader is far too thick to knot Bob, so double barrel crimps are used to form the loops. There probably are knots that Mike J will know of, but nothing I'd attempt!Another question John;
What knot do you connect the 60lb mainline to the 250lb rubbing leader with? Then is it a swivel from leader to wire trace?
My rubbing leaders were 12ft, with a swivel at the top and a link swivel at the bottom. BIG, strong ones - exactly the same as we use for Spanish cats. They're that long as the sharks will spin and their skin will make mincemeat out of the 60lb mainline - as would the boat's hull, once they're thrashing alongside.
The wire is 3ft with a swivel at the top. The last few inches at the business end is doubled, like this photo I copied.
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(All my loops are formed like those. Alternatively, you can get metal 'loop protectors'. Probably a bit O.T.T. - but the way I figure it, getting latched into a shark is not something I'm going to experience very often, so I want everything to be absolutely spot-on!).