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Chub hybrid?

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Caught this fish a few weeks back and assumed that it was a skinny chub... Looking back at the picture and just wondering if it could be some kind chub/dace hybrid due to the narrow mouth.
Caught from a small fast flowing river upper stretch.
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looks like a really good roach to me!
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Thanks, looking at the red fins I'm thinking the same now! I think that the angle on the 2nd pic threw me off a bit maybe.
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The red colouration to the fins and eyes- and especially the concave fins - are not at all chub-like.

I agree with Andrew - a very nice, but slim-bodied roach. (Perhaps a local strain, well-adapted to life in faster currents? :shrug:).
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Andrews correct in my book, its a nice roach.

Roach will find all the sheltered hollows in the bottom and your bait could easily have washed into such a place.
Go back, where where is one there will be more and perhaps even larger.

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Caught this from a mixed coarse/ carp fishery in July this year.
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Looks as if it might have Chub in it?
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I didn't weigh it but can't be much less than 8 ounces if not more.

The chub in the lake i fish are quite scarce and I'm told someone with or without permission put in the lake from their garden pond.

Definitely a hybrid what do you guys reckon.

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martin(rockape) wrote: Wed Oct 06 2021 19:48 -
Caught this from a mixed coarse/ carp fishery in July this year.

20210711_095936.jpg

Looks as if it might have Chub in it?

20210711_095930.jpg

I didn't weigh it but can't be much less than 8 ounces if not more.

The chub in the lake i fish are quite scarce and I'm told someone with or without permission put in the lake from their garden pond.

Definitely a hybrid what do you guys reckon.

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Bream /roach hybrid!! Possibly!!
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Looks more like some kind of weird carp hybrid to me.
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Pinkie wrote: Wed Oct 06 2021 20:32 -
martin(rockape) wrote: Wed Oct 06 2021 19:48 -
Caught this from a mixed coarse/ carp fishery in July this year.

20210711_095936.jpg

Looks as if it might have Chub in it?

20210711_095930.jpg

I didn't weigh it but can't be much less than 8 ounces if not more.

The chub in the lake i fish are quite scarce and I'm told someone with or without permission put in the lake from their garden pond.

Definitely a hybrid what do you guys reckon.

Regards

Martin
Bream /roach hybrid!! Possibly!!
No, Bream/Roach hybrids are so much different to this fish. There are Roach/Bream hybrids in the lake and they are caught quite regularly.

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Looks like the shoulders of a carp??

But I can see bream in there aswell. Might have been insightful to see the dorsal raised??
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I think its a F1. Very common on a lot of commercial fisheries.
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Lee7499 wrote: Wed Oct 06 2021 21:38 -
I think its a F1. Very common on a lot of commercial fisheries.
Definitely not an F1, though there are a few in there, I've had one weighing 7Lb.

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Observations
The tail does not seem natural, the ragged edges trimmed before it was stocked perhaps.
Thickness of the tail root and the hump behind the head points to a carp something or other.

Might make a good bait.

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I'd say a carp of some sort.
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I fished a water with some carpy oddities in it which had a look of that fish.
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Brown Goldfish.
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ADAM-F wrote: Thu Oct 07 2021 17:31 -
Brown Goldfish.
That would be my guess too Adam. 👍
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with a hint of crusian in the mix ....think i spelt that wrong
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