Can you get ready tied hook to nylon ?........without the hook ?

[Taffypiker]

Strange question but I use those korum hair rigs with quickstops and don't need the spade end hooks provided with most hooks to nylon

[Andrew]

I doubt it.

Are you having a problem making the rigs yourself ?

[davelumb]

Get some spools of hook length and these - https://www.matchmansupplies.co.uk/spec ... -loop-tyer

[Daniel]

Just buy the components, quick stops, hooks, line and a loop tyer and make your own, to your specific requirements.

A hook length storage box is a worthwhile investment, it's very easy to tie hook lengths up to a specific length while you watch tv and keep them in the box ready to go.

I've got five or six boxes with dozens of hooks tied up for various applications.

[Taffypiker]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

[davelumb]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

Stop being a tight fucker.

The loop tyers are worth having.

[Andrew]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

Piece of p**s. I was wondering if you had arthritis. I'd only be buying ready made rigs if my hands didnt work.

https://www.101knots.com/figure-8-on-a-bight.html

[Andrew]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

Stop being a tight fucker.

The loop tyers are worth having.

Feck that... that's like a whole 2 quid or something! Correction it's 6 quid! I nearly dropped dead.

[Daniel]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

Stop being a tight fucker.

The loop tyers are worth having.

Feck that... that's like a whole 2 quid or something! Correction it's 6 quid! I nearly dropped dead.

I'd drop dead too if they were six quid, but loop tyers can be had for about £1:50, even you super tight Scots lads can manage that without too much shaking as you hand over the pennies!

[Daniel]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

If you use a hook length storage box, you'll need a loop tyer, it's the only way to make them the correct length to fit on the fixed pins in the box.

[Taffypiker]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

If you use a hook length storage box, you'll need a loop tyer, it's the only way to make them the correct length to fit on the fixed pins in the box.

I used to use foam wheels with pins for my sea fishing rigs

[davelumb]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

Stop being a tight fucker.

The loop tyers are worth having.

Feck that... that's like a whole 2 quid or something! Correction it's 6 quid! I nearly dropped dead.

I'd drop dead too if they were six quid, but loop tyers can be had for about £1:50, even you super tight Scots lads can manage that without too much shaking as you hand over the pennies!

And once you've got the knack of using them you'll never go back.

[davelumb]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ringers-Loop-T ... 574&sr=8-8

[Taffypiker]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

Piece of p**s. I was wondering if you had arthritis. I'd only be buying ready made rigs if my hands didnt work.

https://www.101knots.com/figure-8-on-a-bight.html

I would use the surgeons loop which is the same thing I suppose

[Andrew]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

Piece of p**s. I was wondering if you had arthritis. I'd only be buying ready made rigs if my hands didnt work.

https://www.101knots.com/figure-8-on-a-bight.html

I would use the surgeons loop which is the same thing I suppose

Double overhand loop. Dont quote me but I think the figure 8 is less of a strangulation knot

[jeff smith]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

Stop being a tight fucker.

The loop tyers are worth having.

Sorry, that did make me laugh.
On a serious note- I want to make really short (2-3”)hook lengths . I have the loop tyer with pegs on it but does the style above enable you to make such short rigs accurately.??
Guess I should just blow the two quid and find out for myself

[Daniel]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

Stop being a tight fucker.

The loop tyers are worth having.

Sorry, that did make me laugh.
On a serious note- I want to make really short (2-3”)hook lengths . I have the loop tyer with pegs on it but does the style above enable you to make such short rigs accurately.??
Guess I should just blow the two quid and find out for myself

A very good demo about tying hook lengths, including the 2" one that many struggle with.

[davelumb]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

Stop being a tight fucker.

The loop tyers are worth having.

Sorry, that did make me laugh.
On a serious note- I want to make really short (2-3”)hook lengths . I have the loop tyer with pegs on it but does the style above enable you to make such short rigs accurately.??
Guess I should just blow the two quid and find out for myself

A very good demo about tying hook lengths, including the 2" one that many struggle with.

f**k me I was expecting something groundbreaking for the short hooklinks.

No need for a tarty gate-latch needle either. I've been using a Gardner braided hair needle (linky) for donkey's years. They're also good for pulling braid through rubber beads and rig sleeves as well as putting boilies and drilled pellets on hairs! A multi-purpose tool.

[Daniel]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

Stop being a tight fucker.

The loop tyers are worth having.

Sorry, that did make me laugh.
On a serious note- I want to make really short (2-3”)hook lengths . I have the loop tyer with pegs on it but does the style above enable you to make such short rigs accurately.??
Guess I should just blow the two quid and find out for myself

A very good demo about tying hook lengths, including the 2" one that many struggle with.

f**k me I was expecting something groundbreaking for the short hooklinks.

No need for a tarty gate-latch needle either. I've been using a Gardner braided hair needle (linky) for donkey's years. They're also good for pulling braid through rubber beads and rig sleeves as well as putting boilies and drilled pellets on hairs! A multi-purpose tool.

There's little new in fishing, but it's all new for those that don't know how Dave.

[davelumb]

Thanks guys can I do without those loop tiers and just tie a loop myself?

Stop being a tight fucker.

The loop tyers are worth having.

Sorry, that did make me laugh.
On a serious note- I want to make really short (2-3”)hook lengths . I have the loop tyer with pegs on it but does the style above enable you to make such short rigs accurately.??
Guess I should just blow the two quid and find out for myself

A very good demo about tying hook lengths, including the 2" one that many struggle with.

f**k me I was expecting something groundbreaking for the short hooklinks.

No need for a tarty gate-latch needle either. I've been using a Gardner braided hair needle (linky) for donkey's years. They're also good for pulling braid through rubber beads and rig sleeves as well as putting boilies and drilled pellets on hairs! A multi-purpose tool.

There's little new in fishing, but it's all new for those that don't know how Dave.

True.

But it's wasted knowledge telling the cheapskates. I can't see Taffy shelling out for a baiting needle!

[Bob Watson]

Before I knew what baiting needles were I used a hair pluck scrounged from the girls studying hair dressing at college.

As for loops, get a spool of line and practise them without or without a tool. I never use a loop tier and can easily tie double overhand or figure eight loops for hairs or hooklinks.

[Taffypiker]

After a few you tube tutorials I am good to go !

OK my hooklengths are a mix of 10 , 12 , 6 , 6 and 8 inches but who cares !

[Andrew]

After a few you tube tutorials I am good to go !

OK my hooklengths are a mix of 10 , 12 , 6 , 6 and 8 inches but who cares !

You want them a lot shorter than that for the tench. Aim for 3 inches. If you can get them below 6 inch then good

[Taffypiker]

After a few you tube tutorials I am good to go !

OK my hooklengths are a mix of 10 , 12 , 6 , 6 and 8 inches but who cares !

You want them a lot shorter than that for the tench. Aim for 3 inches. If you can get them below 6 inch then good

I have always used 10 to 12 inch hooklengths for leger fishing for carp , tench , roach , bream etc ?

And I thought those were short !

[Daniel]

After a few you tube tutorials I am good to go !

OK my hooklengths are a mix of 10 , 12 , 6 , 6 and 8 inches but who cares !

That's fine for float work, but if you're feeder fishing, learn to tie the helicopter rig.
Tench don't move far when they're feeding, they just use their pectorals to slowly manoeuvre over the feed area as they sift food from the silt and debris on the bottom.

A long hook length when feeder fishing can see tench pick up your bait and reject it with barely a sign at your end.

The helicopter rig uses very short, 2-4" hook lengths and the tench hook themselves against the weight of the feeder giving brilliant, carp like bites.
A size 10 or 12 tied on 8-10lb line with a quick stop pushed through three bits of worm is deadly.
A bunch of maggots also works well, as does hair rigged fake casters.
Fill the feeder with red maggots and chopped worm.
I like to fish over a bed of hemp, 4mm pellet, 2mm pellet and a little corn.
The bed gives them something to graze over and keeps them in the swim while the feeder gives them something to home in on.

[Taffypiker]

And another thing ....

I notice that a lot of hooks to nylon or pre tied hair rigs are to 8 pound line

No good to me .....I am tying size 12 , 10 and 8 hooks to 6 pound line to attach to 6 pound mainline so it gives under a good tug

[Taffypiker]

After a few you tube tutorials I am good to go !

OK my hooklengths are a mix of 10 , 12 , 6 , 6 and 8 inches but who cares !

That's fine for float work, but if you're feeder fishing, learn to tie the helicopter rig.
Tench don't move far when they're feeding, they just use their pectorals to slowly manoeuvre over the feed area as they sift food from the silt and debris on the bottom.

A long hook length when feeder fishing can see tench pick up your bait and reject it with barely a sign at your end.

The helicopter rig uses very short, 2-4" hook lengths and the tench hook themselves against the weight of the feeder giving brilliant, carp like bites.
A size 10 or 12 tied on 8-10lb line with a quick stop pushed through three bits of worm is deadly.
A bunch of maggots also works well, as does hair rigged fake casters.
Fill the feeder with red maggots and chopped worm.
I like to fish over a bed of hemp, 4mm pellet, 2mm pellet and a little corn.
The bed gives them something to graze over and keeps them in the swim while the feeder gives them something to home in on.

That's basically a bolt rig ?

[davelumb]

After a few you tube tutorials I am good to go !

OK my hooklengths are a mix of 10 , 12 , 6 , 6 and 8 inches but who cares !

That's fine for float work, but if you're feeder fishing, learn to tie the helicopter rig.
Tench don't move far when they're feeding, they just use their pectorals to slowly manoeuvre over the feed area as they sift food from the silt and debris on the bottom.

A long hook length when feeder fishing can see tench pick up your bait and reject it with barely a sign at your end.

The helicopter rig uses very short, 2-4" hook lengths and the tench hook themselves against the weight of the feeder giving brilliant, carp like bites.
A size 10 or 12 tied on 8-10lb line with a quick stop pushed through three bits of worm is deadly.
A bunch of maggots also works well, as does hair rigged fake casters.
Fill the feeder with red maggots and chopped worm.
I like to fish over a bed of hemp, 4mm pellet, 2mm pellet and a little corn.
The bed gives them something to graze over and keeps them in the swim while the feeder gives them something to home in on.

That's basically a bolt rig ?

Why make life difficult?

Tench rig:

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[Andrew]

After a few you tube tutorials I am good to go !

OK my hooklengths are a mix of 10 , 12 , 6 , 6 and 8 inches but who cares !

You want them a lot shorter than that for the tench. Aim for 3 inches. If you can get them below 6 inch then good

I have always used 10 to 12 inch hooklengths for leger fishing for carp , tench , roach , bream etc ?

And I thought those were short !

You'll be missing tench. Like daniel said they'll pick up a bait and eject it and you won't know or will be thinking you got line bites.

Many rigs could be a bolt rig, it's an effect not a rig.. kinda... 1.75oz is minimum weight to be really effective as a bolt rig. Your current setup with feeder and hair rigs isnt a very effective bolt rig because of the length of your hook length. Also using a hair rig gives more effect to the bolt rig because of how the hook and bait move when tench and carp eject it/move off.

[Daniel]

After a few you tube tutorials I am good to go !

OK my hooklengths are a mix of 10 , 12 , 6 , 6 and 8 inches but who cares !

That's fine for float work, but if you're feeder fishing, learn to tie the helicopter rig.
Tench don't move far when they're feeding, they just use their pectorals to slowly manoeuvre over the feed area as they sift food from the silt and debris on the bottom.

A long hook length when feeder fishing can see tench pick up your bait and reject it with barely a sign at your end.

The helicopter rig uses very short, 2-4" hook lengths and the tench hook themselves against the weight of the feeder giving brilliant, carp like bites.
A size 10 or 12 tied on 8-10lb line with a quick stop pushed through three bits of worm is deadly.
A bunch of maggots also works well, as does hair rigged fake casters.
Fill the feeder with red maggots and chopped worm.
I like to fish over a bed of hemp, 4mm pellet, 2mm pellet and a little corn.
The bed gives them something to graze over and keeps them in the swim while the feeder gives them something to home in on.

That's basically a bolt rig ?

Why make life difficult?

Tench rig:

_7504447.jpg

Your straight lead rig will catch, but for putting lots of tench in your net, it can't compete with the effectiveness of the heli rig.
Pretty much every specimen tench angler uses it, and with good reason.