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Post by John Milford » Thu Apr 11 2019 15:08

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Just like buses, when one turns up there`s a load of them :laughs: Got this one this morning, and fortunately there`s enough chrome finish left on the bait to make it still usable :thumbs:

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Happy days mate! :grin: Chrome Blue - my favourite Magnum Tadpolly colour! :thumbs: I did have three in that pattern, but now only two after I 'lent' one to a kid I was supervising at a 'Foster an Angler' event for underprivileged youngsters at Thorpe Park many years ago. He had a load of pike on it and scarpered with it at the end on the day! :mad: . (Mind you, I can't really blame him . . . . :laughs: )

Postie brought me four today :cool: Got clobbered for VAT & Duty, but hey ho, one of them turned out to be a Magnum 'Clatter' Tadpolly! :yahoo:

Now all re-hooked and added to my hoard. Proper 'Lure Porn' :pipe:

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Post by Mark_Houghton » Thu Apr 11 2019 15:16

John Milford wrote:
Mark_Houghton wrote:
Just like buses, when one turns up there`s a load of them :laughs: Got this one this morning, and fortunately there`s enough chrome finish left on the bait to make it still usable :thumbs:

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Happy days mate! :grin: Chrome Blue - my favourite Magnum Tadpolly colour! :thumbs: I did have three in that pattern, but now only two after I 'lent' one to a kid I was supervising at a 'Foster an Angler' event for underprivileged youngsters at Thorpe Park many years ago. He had a load of pike on it and scarpered with it at the end on the day! :mad: . (Mind you, I can't really blame him . . . . :laughs: )

Postie brought me four today :cool: Got clobbered for VAT & Duty, but hey ho, one of them turned out to be a Magnum 'Clatter' Tadpolly! :yahoo:

Now all re-hooked and added to my hoard. Proper 'Lure Porn' :pipe:

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I hope if you`re taking all those out at once you`re well armed John, or have a security team with you :laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

Cracking collection there mate :thumbs:

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Post by davelumb » Thu Apr 11 2019 15:46

Jeez Louise!

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Post by John Milford » Thu Apr 11 2019 18:54

Mark_Houghton wrote:
John Milford wrote:
Mark_Houghton wrote:
Just like buses, when one turns up there`s a load of them :laughs: Got this one this morning, and fortunately there`s enough chrome finish left on the bait to make it still usable :thumbs:

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Happy days mate! :grin: Chrome Blue - my favourite Magnum Tadpolly colour! :thumbs: I did have three in that pattern, but now only two after I 'lent' one to a kid I was supervising at a 'Foster an Angler' event for underprivileged youngsters at Thorpe Park many years ago. He had a load of pike on it and scarpered with it at the end on the day! :mad: . (Mind you, I can't really blame him . . . . :laughs: )

Postie brought me four today :cool: Got clobbered for VAT & Duty, but hey ho, one of them turned out to be a Magnum 'Clatter' Tadpolly! :yahoo:

Now all re-hooked and added to my hoard. Proper 'Lure Porn' :pipe:

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I hope if you`re taking all those out at once you`re well armed John, or have a security team with you :laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

Cracking collection there mate :thumbs:
They're like the Royal Family - they'll never all travel in the same vehicle or plane . . . . :laughs:
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Post by Mark_Houghton » Thu Apr 11 2019 18:58

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They're like the Royal Family - they'll never all travel in the same vehicle or plane . . . . :laughs:
Love it :laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

I managed to repair the smaller Tadpolly with a new tail hook hanger, fixed horizontally alongside the remnants of the original. Originally it was blue/chrome too, which was then covered with a horrible coat of fluro orange. Sadly the orange didnt scrape off well enough to revert back to the original chrome, so it`s now in a perch pattern :cool:

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Post by John Milford » Fri Apr 12 2019 00:15

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John Milford wrote:

They're like the Royal Family - they'll never all travel in the same vehicle or plane . . . . :laughs:
Love it :laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

I managed to repair the smaller Tadpolly with a new tail hook hanger, fixed horizontally alongside the remnants of the original. Originally it was blue/chrome too, which was then covered with a horrible coat of fluro orange. Sadly the orange didnt scrape off well enough to revert back to the original chrome, so it`s now in a perch pattern :cool:

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Post by John Milford » Fri Apr 12 2019 19:13

Well, I've had an eventful day on Facebook!

I recently joined FB's 'Heddon Vintage Lure Group' and posted this lure, which I picked up for peanuts in a mixed lure lot. It was the reason I bought the lot, as I suspected it might be an early, 'no eye' Heddon Lucky 13. When it arrived, it seemed to me the hardware was more like South Bend (and the lure had no belly stamp). So, I asked what people thought . . .

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My phone started pinging within minutes!

It turns out it is not just any old Lucky 13, but the super-rare 'Long Lip' introduction model in an extremely 'tough' colour (Goldfish Scale). Not only that, but the black 'mask' is only found on baits manufactured in the first year of production (1920). The first offer I got was $150, but I've had to advise it's not for sale. Definitely a 'keeper' for the collection! :grin:
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Post by davelumb » Fri Apr 12 2019 19:34

John Milford wrote:
Well, I've had an eventful day on Facebook!

I recently joined FB's 'Heddon Vintage Lure Group' and posted this lure, which I picked up for peanuts in a mixed lure lot. It was the reason I bought the lot, as I suspected it might be an early, 'no eye' Heddon Lucky 13. When it arrived, it seemed to me the hardware was more like South Bend (and the lure had no belly stamp). So, I asked what people thought . . .

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My phone started pinging within minutes!

It turns out it is not just any old Lucky 13, but the super-rare 'Long Lip' introduction model in an extremely 'tough' colour (Goldfish Scale). Not only that, but the black 'mask' is only found on baits manufactured in the first year of production (1920). The first offer I got was $150, but I've had to advise it's not for sale. Definitely a 'keeper' for the collection! :grin:
Send it to Mark for a respray. :exit:

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Post by Happy Hayes » Fri Apr 12 2019 19:43

Nice one , Mr Milford :thumbs:
I must admit to loving this thread.
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Post by Will Smith » Fri Apr 12 2019 19:46

Cool, I wonder how many more unknown and unidentified gems you have hiding away John ?

One or two I would imagine :thumbs: Bet you're chuffed with that.

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Post by John Milford » Fri Apr 12 2019 20:50

Will Smith wrote:
Cool, I wonder how many more unknown and unidentified gems you have hiding away John ?

One or two I would imagine :thumbs: Bet you're chuffed with that.

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Well chuffed Will! :thumbs:

It's always great to buy something on a hunch and then find out your first instinct was right.

Must admit, I was slightly taken aback just what a rare lure it turned out to be. It created quite a stir today among some real top-end collectors! :grin:
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Post by John Milford » Fri Apr 12 2019 21:05

davelumb wrote:
John Milford wrote:
Well, I've had an eventful day on Facebook!

I recently joined FB's 'Heddon Vintage Lure Group' and posted this lure, which I picked up for peanuts in a mixed lure lot. It was the reason I bought the lot, as I suspected it might be an early, 'no eye' Heddon Lucky 13. When it arrived, it seemed to me the hardware was more like South Bend (and the lure had no belly stamp). So, I asked what people thought . . .

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My phone started pinging within minutes!

It turns out it is not just any old Lucky 13, but the super-rare 'Long Lip' introduction model in an extremely 'tough' colour (Goldfish Scale). Not only that, but the black 'mask' is only found on baits manufactured in the first year of production (1920). The first offer I got was $150, but I've had to advise it's not for sale. Definitely a 'keeper' for the collection! :grin:
Send it to Mark for a respray. :exit:
:laughs:

Nah, I'll just daub it wi' a bit of old yacht varnish - be reyt. . . . :afraid:
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John Milford wrote:
davelumb wrote:
John Milford wrote:
Well, I've had an eventful day on Facebook!

I recently joined FB's 'Heddon Vintage Lure Group' and posted this lure, which I picked up for peanuts in a mixed lure lot. It was the reason I bought the lot, as I suspected it might be an early, 'no eye' Heddon Lucky 13. When it arrived, it seemed to me the hardware was more like South Bend (and the lure had no belly stamp). So, I asked what people thought . . .

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My phone started pinging within minutes!

It turns out it is not just any old Lucky 13, but the super-rare 'Long Lip' introduction model in an extremely 'tough' colour (Goldfish Scale). Not only that, but the black 'mask' is only found on baits manufactured in the first year of production (1920). The first offer I got was $150, but I've had to advise it's not for sale. Definitely a 'keeper' for the collection! :grin:
Send it to Mark for a respray. :exit:
:laughs:

Nah, I'll just daub it wi' a bit of old yacht varnish - be reyt. . . . :afraid:
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What other gems have you got lurking ?

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Post by John Milford » Fri Apr 12 2019 21:17

davelumb wrote:
John Milford wrote:
davelumb wrote:
John Milford wrote:
Well, I've had an eventful day on Facebook!

I recently joined FB's 'Heddon Vintage Lure Group' and posted this lure, which I picked up for peanuts in a mixed lure lot. It was the reason I bought the lot, as I suspected it might be an early, 'no eye' Heddon Lucky 13. When it arrived, it seemed to me the hardware was more like South Bend (and the lure had no belly stamp). So, I asked what people thought . . .

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My phone started pinging within minutes!

It turns out it is not just any old Lucky 13, but the super-rare 'Long Lip' introduction model in an extremely 'tough' colour (Goldfish Scale). Not only that, but the black 'mask' is only found on baits manufactured in the first year of production (1920). The first offer I got was $150, but I've had to advise it's not for sale. Definitely a 'keeper' for the collection! :grin:
Send it to Mark for a respray. :exit:
:laughs:

Nah, I'll just daub it wi' a bit of old yacht varnish - be reyt. . . . :afraid:
:thumbs:

What other gems have you got lurking ?
Not as many 'lurking' undiscovered as Mr Houghton I'll bet. Some of the baits in his 'users' boxes are collector's items! :eek:
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Post by Mark_Houghton » Fri Apr 12 2019 21:27

John Milford wrote:
davelumb wrote:
John Milford wrote:
davelumb wrote:
John Milford wrote:
Well, I've had an eventful day on Facebook!

I recently joined FB's 'Heddon Vintage Lure Group' and posted this lure, which I picked up for peanuts in a mixed lure lot. It was the reason I bought the lot, as I suspected it might be an early, 'no eye' Heddon Lucky 13. When it arrived, it seemed to me the hardware was more like South Bend (and the lure had no belly stamp). So, I asked what people thought . . .

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My phone started pinging within minutes!

It turns out it is not just any old Lucky 13, but the super-rare 'Long Lip' introduction model in an extremely 'tough' colour (Goldfish Scale). Not only that, but the black 'mask' is only found on baits manufactured in the first year of production (1920). The first offer I got was $150, but I've had to advise it's not for sale. Definitely a 'keeper' for the collection! :grin:
Send it to Mark for a respray. :exit:
:laughs:

Nah, I'll just daub it wi' a bit of old yacht varnish - be reyt. . . . :afraid:
:thumbs:

What other gems have you got lurking ?
Not as many 'lurking' undiscovered as Mr Houghton I'll bet. Some of the baits in his 'users' boxes are collector's items! :eek:
I dont have that many valuable baits tbh John, the majority of my collection is ones i`ve made myself. That Towner Coston was about the only one I had no idea about, and it wasnt a bait that appealed anyway, it was in my unused tat box :laughs:

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Post by John Milford » Fri Apr 12 2019 23:09

That photo finish 'Hedd Plug' of yours might just surprise you mate :pipe:
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Post by Mark_Houghton » Fri Apr 12 2019 23:38

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That photo finish 'Hedd Plug' of yours might just surprise you mate :pipe:
I expected that one to be quite collectable John. What price are they fetching?

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Post by John Milford » Sat Apr 13 2019 00:50

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That photo finish 'Hedd Plug' of yours might just surprise you mate :pipe:
I expected that one to be quite collectable John. What price are they fetching?
I sold one on eBay (with US visibility) on behalf of Chris Leibbrandt, and (if I remember correctly) it fetched £112. He had a couple of Heddon 'Cracklebacks' and a 'Hi Tail', which went for good prices too. If you make sure anything is visible to US and Japanese collectors, they do better than eBay UK only :wink:

Heddon 'Hi Tail' - dorkiest lure ever! (The Japs love 'em!) :laughs:
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Post by Mark_Houghton » Sat Apr 13 2019 12:43

John Milford wrote:
Mark_Houghton wrote:
John Milford wrote:
That photo finish 'Hedd Plug' of yours might just surprise you mate :pipe:
I expected that one to be quite collectable John. What price are they fetching?
I sold one on eBay (with US visibility) on behalf of Chris Leibbrandt, and (if I remember correctly) it fetched £112. He had a couple of Heddon 'Cracklebacks' and a 'Hi Tail', which went for good prices too. If you make sure anything is visible to US and Japanese collectors, they do better than eBay UK only :wink:

Heddon 'Hi Tail' - dorkiest lure ever! (The Japs love 'em!) :laughs:

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That`s a decent price :thumbs: The Hi Tail always looked a bit too "cartoon-ish" to me. I like the profile of the Cousin though, that`s a nice bait....

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Post by Monts » Sat Apr 13 2019 15:47

John Milford wrote:
Mark_Houghton wrote:
John Milford wrote:
That photo finish 'Hedd Plug' of yours might just surprise you mate :pipe:
I expected that one to be quite collectable John. What price are they fetching?
I sold one on eBay (with US visibility) on behalf of Chris Leibbrandt, and (if I remember correctly) it fetched £112. He had a couple of Heddon 'Cracklebacks' and a 'Hi Tail', which went for good prices too. If you make sure anything is visible to US and Japanese collectors, they do better than eBay UK only :wink:

Heddon 'Hi Tail' - dorkiest lure ever! (The Japs love 'em!) :laughs:

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It looks like a character from the movie Finding Nemo :grin:

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Post by John Milford » Tue Apr 16 2019 16:41

American collectors are just on another level when it comes to knowledge. :worthy:

I posted pics on FB today, asking for any info on these early and late model 'Weedless Widow' Heddons from my collection.
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A guy called Bill Sonnet directed me to his blog and everything I wanted to know was there. 'New' in 1928 as the 'Weedless Wizzard' and re-launched in 1929 as the 'Weedless Widow' (to avoid any confusion with South Bend's 'Wizard'). The belly hook was added in 1930. (Mine has the 1920's style 'L Rig' hanger to add an optional belly hook).

The other one is a later version, circa1950's.

Apparently they were not 'plunkers' but 'walkers' - more like a Jitterbug than a popper :cool:
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Monts wrote:
Some nice old (and very valuable) baits on there Jason :thumbs: :thumbs:

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Post by davelumb » Wed Apr 24 2019 11:49

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Enjoyable. :thumbs:

I've seen the guy with one working arm do a feature on sheep dogs. :smile:

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Post by Monts » Wed Apr 24 2019 12:18

Gents,

It's like I've mentioned before I like looking at old tackle, be it lures, rods, reels etc. I do draw the line at Del Boys thrown together tat and his attempts to make his swim like Steptoes yard. :grin: It's the same with old angling shows on YouTube, I was watching 'Hooked' a few months back, Marks, Heaps, Barlow etc all characters from the past.

That old American boy came over well. I did look at a couple of others, one guy showed off 400,000 dollars worth of lures on display. But it lacked the sentiment the old boy had. :thumbs:

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Post by Will Smith » Wed Apr 24 2019 12:28

Monts wrote:
Gents,

It's like I've mentioned before I like looking at old tackle, be it lures, rods, reels etc. I do draw the line at Del Boys thrown together tat and his attempts to make his swim like Steptoes yard. :grin: It's the same with old angling shows on YouTube, I was watching 'Hooked' a few months back, Marks, Heaps, Barlow etc all characters from the past.

That old American boy came over well. I did look at a couple of others, one guy showed off 400,000 dollars worth of lures on display. But it lacked the sentiment the old boy had. :thumbs:
Agreed Jason, and thanks for putting the up.
I doubt I would be able or want to collect them, or anything else for that matter if I was not super interested in them and did not really love what I was collecting, of course it's nice if you happen across something that is worth a few quid but it just adds a bit of interest thats all, monetary value is the last thing that I consider when buying, I just tend to buy what I like.

Hmmm, maybe thats not strictly true, I do consider monetary value in that I avoid buying any expensive lures :laughs: .

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Post by Mark_Houghton » Wed Apr 24 2019 12:40

Monts wrote:
Gents,

It's like I've mentioned before I like looking at old tackle, be it lures, rods, reels etc. I do draw the line at Del Boys thrown together tat and his attempts to make his swim like Steptoes yard. :grin: It's the same with old angling shows on YouTube, I was watching 'Hooked' a few months back, Marks, Heaps, Barlow etc all characters from the past.

That old American boy came over well. I did look at a couple of others, one guy showed off 400,000 dollars worth of lures on display. But it lacked the sentiment the old boy had. :thumbs:
We are very much on the same wavelength mate :thumbs: :cheers:

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Post by John Milford » Wed Apr 24 2019 14:19

I've recently subscribed to the Heddon Vintage Lure group on Facebook. It's been a mixed experience.

What immediately struck me is that there are cleary two distinct kinds of collectors - those who consider only value and those who simply appreciate the lures for what they are.

For example, a guy recently posted a picture of a little Heddon Tiger and asked for any info. The very first comment was "Common. $5" (talk about putting the posters enthusiasm down!).

I told him it was a #1010 Tiny Tiger in SD, and that he needed size 8 trebles to put on it (as it had no hooks).

Value is interesting, but nowhere near everything.

In many ways, lure collecting is just like fishing. There are blowhard 'specimen hunters' who are dismissive of anything they deem unworthy of trophy status. And then there are anglers. True anglers appreciate all the fish they catch - and I'd argue that the pleasure they get from catching a 'specimen' is immeasurably greater than the so-called specimen hunter's as a result.
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Post by Mark_Houghton » Wed Apr 24 2019 14:47

John Milford wrote:
I've recently subscribed to the Heddon Vintage Lure group on Facebook. It's been a mixed experience.

What immediately struck me is that there are cleary two distinct kinds of collectors - those who consider only value and those who simply appreciate the lures for what they are.

For example, a guy recently posted a picture of a little Heddon Tiger and asked for any info. The very first comment was "Common. $5" (talk about putting the posters enthusiasm down!).

I told him it was a #1010 Tiny Tiger in SD, and that he needed size 8 trebles to put on it (as it had no hooks).

Value is interesting, but nowhere near everything.

In many ways, lure collecting is just like fishing. There are blowhard 'specimen hunters' who are dismissive of anything they deem unworthy of trophy status. And then there are anglers. True anglers appreciate all the fish they catch - and I'd argue that the pleasure they get from catching a 'specimen' is immeasurably greater than the so-called specimen hunter's as a result.
Value means nothing to me John, as you`ll likely realise given that I use old collectable baits that would make a seasoned collector cringe :laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

Couldnt agree more regarding the differences between specimen hunters and those who just want to catch fish. The older I get, the more I can`t see the point of the disappointment and/or frustration when fish don`t reach benchmark weights, or you can`t get through the smaller fish to catch the specimens. Apart from those who have exceptional fishing available, I can`t help thinking many of those who are obsessed with big fish only must spend an awful lot of the time miserable and frustrated when things don`t pan out. Those with more sensible aspirations get a lot more out of their fishing I`d wager :wink:

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Post by John Milford » Wed Apr 24 2019 15:31

This is a particular favourite little lure from my collection. A delicate, homemade quill minnow in the 'Feathero' style. My guess is, it's from the post WW2 austerity 'make or mend' period. I neither know nor care what it is worth (not much, probably). The care and craftsmanship in its construction however is quite superb. I suspect the maker was so rightly proud of it that it's never seen the water! :cool:
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"He's some sort of lure savant. Or just has an unhealthy addiction to old lures. We are not quite sure . . . . . "

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