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Post by Alex Fox » Sat Jan 04 2020 23:13

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Great stuff john ... can you download pics straight from the desk top onto these forum pages ?
I guess so Alex? If you click on 'Full Editor / Preview' there is an 'Attachments' tab under the Save Draft/ Preview/Submit bar. (You might have to locate any picture you want by its file location).
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Post by John Milford » Mon Jan 06 2020 12:08

Colour collections. I've only got one on the go as they are very difficult, being so specific.

The Heddon 'XRG' (X-Ray Green a.k.a. Green Shore Minnow) was discontinued in 1956 - which appealled to me because it means they are all at least as old, or older, than me.

Lucky I've already got a few of the toughest to find (the 'scoop lip' Go-Deeper, No Snag, Jointed Sinker and flyrod 'Runtie') but there are still lots of sizes/configurations that I'm missing.

If anyone spots any, please let me know! :thumbs:

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Post by jonsykes » Sat Jan 11 2020 10:28

A facebook 'friend'has dropped on a load of Heddon stuff in his local tackle shop, part of someone's inheritance. Theres quite a few of your vintage styles in among ttem Mark Houghton. Pics coming up.

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Post by jonsykes » Sat Jan 11 2020 12:26

Are the mice your work Mark?
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And more
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Post by Mark_Houghton » Sat Jan 11 2020 13:08

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Are the mice your work Mark?
Last 2 pics are all my baits :thumbs:

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Post by Mark_Houghton » Sat Jan 11 2020 13:09

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And more
Last 2 pics are mine again :thumbs:

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Post by jonsykes » Sat Jan 11 2020 13:31

Cheers Mark

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Post by jonsykes » Sat Jan 11 2020 13:39

This is one among them, is it a 'Powerpak Spring Activated Surface Lure? Apparently if you.oull the cord the rail vibrates. Anyone know a value ... John?
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Post by John Milford » Sat Jan 11 2020 14:22

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This is one among them, is it a 'Powerpak Spring Activated Surface Lure? Apparently if you.oull the cord the rail vibrates. Anyone know a value ... John?
You can still get them Jon. There's a version called a 'Fish Arrow Motor Shad' very much like it. They sell for about £30 new! :eek:
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Post by John Milford » Mon Jan 13 2020 13:20

A new addition to my South Bend collection arrived today. :grin:

A 1920s #903 Underwater Minnow in 'GCBW' (Green Crackleback, White Belly), in it's original box. They look more black than green - whether this is down to the 100 year-old paint pigment, or whether they were just very dark to start with is anyone's guess for such a very old lure?

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Post by Mark_Houghton » Mon Jan 13 2020 14:21

John Milford wrote:
A new addition to my South Bend collection arrived today. :grin:

A 1920s #903 Underwater Minnow in 'GCBW' (Green Crackleback, White Belly), in it's original box. They look more black than green - whether this is down to the 100 year-old paint pigment, or whether they were just very dark to start with is anyone's guess for such a very old lure?


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Nice :thumbs: A lot of those old patterns appear black not green, probably down to the shade of green they used combined with the white crackle effect....

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Post by Mark_Houghton » Mon Jan 20 2020 17:59

The battered blue/chrome Mag Tadpolly just got a new paint job, as I`ve a better conditioned one coming, thanks to John sending me a link for some. Fancied something more natural for this one so sprayed it up in Heddon`s "MG" pattern - musky/gold. Turned out quite nice, i`m happy with it :smile:

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Post by Will Smith » Mon Jan 20 2020 18:30

That is rather nice Mr Hougton Sir :thumbs: .


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Post by John Milford » Mon Jan 20 2020 18:47

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That is rather nice Mr Hougton Sir :thumbs: .


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Very nice :thumbs: (Have you seen the ones on eBay Will? :wink: ).
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Post by fergie68 » Mon Jan 20 2020 18:51

I like that. :smile:
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Post by Will Smith » Mon Jan 20 2020 19:46

PM John.

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Post by Mark_Houghton » Thu Jan 23 2020 12:04

Four more Magnum Tadpollys arrived today including 2 Clattertads, from Ebay..... thanks to John for the heads up about the listings :thumbs:

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Post by John Milford » Thu Jan 23 2020 14:46

Today the postman delivered what I consider to be a bit of a 'Holy Grail', as far as early British plugs are concerned. I've pored over the illustration of it countless times, since I was a kid - as has everyone who is a fan of the 'Mr Crabtree' books.

On page 37 of 'Mr Crabtree' Goes Fishing', Bernard Venables illustrates a row of plugs about which he says "I have reason to believe that by the time this book is published, the range of British patterns available will be very much wider. The patterns shown on the top row are all British". That was written in 1949.

The row he was writing about showed two 'Flatfish' type plugs and two 'Runt' styles - which had a very distinctive line tie. I've seen a photo of one of the British made 'Flatfish' in its box which showed it was a 'Flipper' made by (or for) Martin James of Redditch, so it seems very likely the 'Runt' type was from them too?

It's the first time I've ever seen one for sale (or, indeed, anywhere!).

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Post by Mark_Houghton » Thu Jan 23 2020 14:51

John Milford wrote:
Today the postman delivered what I consider to be a bit of a 'Holy Grail', as far as early British plugs are concerned. I've pored over the illustration of it countless times, since I was a kid - as has everyone who is a fan of the 'Mr Crabtree' books.

On page 37 of 'Mr Crabtree' Goes Fishing', Bernard Venables illustrates a row of plugs about which he says "I have reason to believe that by the time this book is published, the range of British patterns available will be very much wider. The patterns shown on the top row are all British". That was written in 1949.

The row he was writing about showed two 'Flatfish' type plugs and two 'Runt' styles - which had a very distinctive line tie. I've seen a photo of one of the British made 'Flatfish' in its box which showed it was made by (or for) Alex Martin of Glasgow, so it seems very likely the 'Runt' type was from them too?

It's the first time I've ever seen one for sale (or, indeed, anywhere!).


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That`s a bit of a result John :thumbs: :thumbs:

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Post by John Milford » Sat Jan 25 2020 02:24

What does anyone make of this? A 4 1/2" Pflueger 'Palomine' fitted with crazy mahseer bait holding trebles!

This is not the first Palomine I've seen with mahseer hooks. A factory special, or perhaps just some eccentric old colonial colonel type who's modified a couple which have both found their way 'out there' to confuse lure nerds like me? :shrug:

(Why am I even pondering this at nearly 1-30 in the morning? :scratch: ). :clown:

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Post by davelumb » Sat Jan 25 2020 08:30

John Milford wrote:
What does anyone make of this? A 4 1/2" Pflueger 'Palomine' fitted with crazy mahseer bait holding trebles!

This is not the first Palomine I've seen with mahseer hooks. A factory special, or perhaps just some eccentric old colonial colonel type who's modified a couple which have both found their way 'out there' to confuse lure nerds like me? :shrug:

(Why am I even pondering this at nearly 1-30 in the morning? :scratch: ). :clown:


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We all know why, John.

What we want to know is if you bought it! :laughs:

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Post by Will Smith » Sun Jan 26 2020 22:29

Surely they are dead bait hooks John, one hook on each treble being straight and having no bend, very strong hooks obviously, but had it been a factory special I'd say they would have used full trebles. Your eccentric old Colonel modification theory seems to sit better with me :thumbs: .

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Post by John Milford » Mon Jan 27 2020 14:32

Will Smith wrote:
Surely they are dead bait hooks John, one hook on each treble being straight and having no bend, very strong hooks obviously, but had it been a factory special I'd say they would have used full trebles. Your eccentric old Colonel modification theory seems to sit better with me :thumbs: .

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Yes, they're definitely bait-holding trebles Will. :thumbs:

My guess is that their addition was so that a strip of fish, or even a small whole fish could be added to create a bait/lure hybrid for Mahseer.

The bait prongs of the trebles point at the belly of the lure and I expect the bait strip would also have been bound to the lure with fine copper wire. :shrug:

Their more familiar use was on bait spinning flights, like this (super rare :cool: ) Mahseer-rigged Hardy 'Crocodile'.

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Post by John Milford » Thu Jan 30 2020 12:23

This arrived while I was out fishing yesterday. :grin:

A #957 South Bend 'Pike Oreno' in 'P' (Yellow Perch), complete with its correctly stamped box.

The body shape is the pre - 1940 'straight' version, which was replaced by a more curved, tapered 'pikie' shaped model in 1941, so it's at least 80 years old. :madmick:

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Post by hb904460 » Thu Jan 30 2020 19:24

Are they the original trebles?

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Post by John Milford » Thu Jan 30 2020 20:08

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Are they the original trebles?
Yes, those chromed trebles were used on South Bend plugs from the very earliest days. :thumbs:
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Post by hb904460 » Thu Jan 30 2020 21:22

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Are they the original trebles?
Yes, those chromed trebles were used on South Bend plugs from the very earliest days. :thumbs:
Thanks John. It is a nice looking lure!
The vintage style and line tie but some shiny hardware looks a little 'un-normal' to me. But that is more my preconceived idea of what an old lure should look like rather than the reality. Rusty bronze trebles for all!

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Post by jonsykes » Fri Jan 31 2020 00:09

Not in Mr Milfords class, but these were among a batch I bought last week. I'll be treating the Mepps Bass Killer to a new skirt, the Gladding Intrepid Flasha will get a single hook (Trout Res rules) and will both get some use. The other 2 I haven't identified - they have a slim metal bib & a rotating body & should create quite a bit of disturbance on a quick retrieve. Maybe another one for the Trout to chase.
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