Angling books you cut your teeth on....

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Re: Angling books you cut your teeth on....

Post by davelumb » Wed Mar 18 2020 14:19

John Milford wrote:
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I have never understood the appeal of Mr Crabtree. I think the illustration style (or lack of style!) put me off, and they seemed old fashioned.
I thought the Mr Crabtree' books were old fashioned, even when I read them in the 1960s! However, I found they captured the essence of fishing, if not the substance.

(Simple drawings, with their sometimes dodgy perspective, and all!).

This one is a howler, but perhaps the most evocative of them for me. :pipe:


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They just look crap to me. :exit:
It's not that Venables couldn't draw, or was a poor draughtsman - he was simply using artistic licence to capture the moment.

Do you dislike 'graphic novel' type art in general, or just his Dave?
Not a big fan of graphic novels TBH, but I used to like the drawings in 'Commando' books (https://www.commandocomics.com/) - which I used to copy, along with Spiderman and The Mighty Thor illustrations!

Venables's fish never look 'right' to me. Not a patch on Keith Linsell's.

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Re: Angling books you cut your teeth on....

Post by davelumb » Wed Mar 18 2020 14:21

Anyway, I've been down a nostalgia rabbit hole. I'd forgotten about this one - https://www.anglebooks.com/i-spy-fishin ... i-spy.html

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Post by lochhopper » Wed Mar 18 2020 17:17

John Milford wrote:
davelumb wrote:
I have never understood the appeal of Mr Crabtree. I think the illustration style (or lack of style!) put me off, and they seemed old fashioned.
I thought the Mr Crabtree' books were old fashioned, even when I read them in the 1960s! However, I found they captured the essence of fishing, if not the substance.

(Simple drawings, with their sometimes dodgy perspective, and all!).

This one is a howler, but perhaps the most evocative of them for me. :pipe:


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Hmm, free-roving livebait... good choice by 20 ft surf? :scratch: :grin:

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Re: Angling books you cut your teeth on....

Post by Monts » Thu Mar 19 2020 14:30

Getting back to the YouTube theme, as this thread ebbs and flows. Frank Boris Barlow, now his articles I used to like, I've always had zero interest in Match Fishing. But he used to make me laugh. Sadly very little film footage of him. I reckon one of those anglers who could tell a good story while you shared a pint or three.
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Re: Angling books you cut your teeth on....

Post by piker66 » Thu Mar 19 2020 18:37

davelumb wrote:
John Milford wrote:
davelumb wrote:
John Milford wrote:
davelumb wrote:
I have never understood the appeal of Mr Crabtree. I think the illustration style (or lack of style!) put me off, and they seemed old fashioned.
I thought the Mr Crabtree' books were old fashioned, even when I read them in the 1960s! However, I found they captured the essence of fishing, if not the substance.

(Simple drawings, with their sometimes dodgy perspective, and all!).

This one is a howler, but perhaps the most evocative of them for me. :pipe:


Crabtree run~2.JPG
They just look crap to me. :exit:
It's not that Venables couldn't draw, or was a poor draughtsman - he was simply using artistic licence to capture the moment.

Do you dislike 'graphic novel' type art in general, or just his Dave?
Not a big fan of graphic novels TBH, but I used to like the drawings in 'Commando' books (https://www.commandocomics.com/) - which I used to copy, along with Spiderman and The Mighty Thor illustrations!

Venables's fish never look 'right' to me. Not a patch on Keith Linsell's.
The Commando books....the Germans always said 'Himmel !' when shot, while the Japanese cried 'Aieee !' when shot !
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Re: Angling books you cut your teeth on....

Post by John Milford » Thu Mar 19 2020 20:21

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The Commando books....the Germans always said 'Himmel !' when shot, while the Japanese cried 'Aieee !' when shot !
Here's a rare German "Aieee . . . . ". :grin:

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Re: Angling books you cut your teeth on....

Post by davelumb » Thu Mar 19 2020 20:22

John Milford wrote:
piker66 wrote:
The Commando books....the Germans always said 'Himmel !' when shot, while the Japanese cried 'Aieee !' when shot !
Here's a rare German "Aieee . . . . ". :grin:


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A Commando book nerd as well as a lure nerd! :grin:

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Post by Happy Hayes » Fri Mar 20 2020 00:02

Monts wrote:
Getting back to the YouTube theme, as this thread ebbs and flows. Frank Boris Barlow, now his articles I used to like, I've always had zero interest in Match Fishing. But he used to make me laugh. Sadly very little film footage of him. I reckon one of those anglers who could tell a good story while you shared a pint or three.
I looked forward to Franks weekly column
Wrote the way he spoke .
As you said ,it would have been nice to have met him down the pub
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Post by Andytheammer » Fri Mar 20 2020 01:43

Had a copy of his book that was printed after his death which included his columns
The Best of Barlow, he had some great stories & knew how to tell them

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Re: Angling books you cut your teeth on....

Post by greencard1 » Mon Mar 23 2020 09:20

I am going to be controversial now, and name Pike Fishing in the 80s by Neville Fickling.
At a time that my pike fishing was flagging, Neville came out with a no-nonsense book that re-ignited my interest, and probably the interests of a lot of other anglers too.

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Post by John Milford » Mon Mar 23 2020 11:42

greencard1 wrote:
I am going to be controversial now, and name Pike Fishing in the 80s by Neville Fickling.
At a time that my pike fishing was flagging, Neville came out with a no-nonsense book that re-ignited my interest, and probably the interests of a lot of other anglers too.
Nothing wrong with any of Nev's books (or Nev really) apart from his occasional tendencies towards twattishness (for which, let's face it, he does not hold a monopoly).

Here's a question (to anybody). If you read a book by someone you've met and know - do you have their voice in your head when you're reading it? :pipe:
"He's some sort of lure savant. Or just has an unhealthy addiction to old lures. We are not quite sure . . . . . "

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Post by greencard1 » Mon Mar 23 2020 15:08

Yes.

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greencard1 wrote:
I am going to be controversial now, and name Pike Fishing in the 80s by Neville Fickling.
At a time that my pike fishing was flagging, Neville came out with a no-nonsense book that re-ignited my interest, and probably the interests of a lot of other anglers too.
Pike fishing in the 80s was an influential book for me as a teenage piker back then. I remember Nev doing a slideshow for our Bristol PAC around then and to be fair he came over and spent some time talking to us few young uns and asking us about our fishing.

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Post by nigel savage » Thu Mar 26 2020 15:38

These two were well read
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Our class room at School was also the library, me and my mate used to wait in anticipation every week for the angling times to be delivered there, reading articles from Fred Wagstaff and his exploits after Pike etc.

On the war front I was aircraft (Second world war) mad, with the bedroom ceiling pinned and nailed with Airfix kits so although I read the Commando books it was the Air ace books that I went for. I went online just now and this one bought back memories, reading it some 55+ years ago :afraid:
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Post by John Milford » Sun Mar 29 2020 20:20

I've never read this little Bernard Venables book, but a copy cropped up on eBay just now for a tenner.

I hovered for a while - then the seller sent me a 'buy it now' offer of £7 posted.

Took his hand off, as in the meantime I'd checked Amazon and the cheapest copy was £40! :eek:

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Post by greencard1 » Sun Mar 29 2020 20:35

It's fantastic.
Especially the look on Mr Cherry's face when he loses the big pike.
Is it a first edition?

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Post by John Milford » Sun Mar 29 2020 20:40

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It's fantastic.
Especially the look on Mr Cherry's face when he loses the big pike.
Is it a first edition?
Third impression, 1965.

(I think I've seen the picture from it you mention, but not the whole book).
"He's some sort of lure savant. Or just has an unhealthy addiction to old lures. We are not quite sure . . . . . "

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Post by greencard1 » Sun Mar 29 2020 20:48

I have got 2 copies. One bought recently, but the first bought in about 1973 from the Angling Times stand at the East of England show near Peterborough. There was a casting pool near the stand with plastic rings fixed in the top end of it. A man was demonstrating casting a spinning rod using a rubber 'bomb' instead of a spinner. He demonstrated what I think is called a 'ping' cast, for when you need to fish through a hole in a hedge! He landed the bomb in the ring every time. I was spellbound, and eventually had to be literally dragged away.

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Post by greencard1 » Tue Mar 31 2020 18:13

John Milford wrote:
greencard1 wrote:
It's fantastic.
Especially the look on Mr Cherry's face when he loses the big pike.
Is it a first edition?
Third impression, 1965.

(I think I've seen the picture from it you mention, but not the whole book).
I think Harris Angling used it as a Christmas card one year.
I miss Harris Angling.

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Post by alanunthank » Tue Mar 31 2020 20:25

Hugh Stokers spinning and trolling for sea fish. Spent a long time in library reading. 😀

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