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I was sent these by Eddie the other day and have since been in touch with Mr Ambassadeur, Simon Shimomura.
The photos show the reel with mono on it and a later model.
The one with mono is the ORIGINAL Len and Terry Savage lhw prototype reel taken to Sweden by a ABU rep.
It was copied and produced by ABU as the 5001c.
The original reel was 1 of 4 and was never returned or acknowledged by ABU, alledgedly!
Eddie has been gifted this one so where the other 3 are now??? Who knows.
Simon Shimomura knew about this it seems and has written about it in his book.
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colinb wrote: Fri Aug 20 2021 18:33 -
I was sent these by Eddie the other day and have since been in touch with Mr Ambassadeur, Simon Shimomura.
The photos show the reel with mono on it and a later model.
The one with mono is the ORIGINAL Len and Terry Savage lhw prototype reel taken to Sweden by a ABU rep.
It was copied and produced by ABU as the 5001c.
The original reel was 1 of 4 and was never returned or acknowledged by ABU, alledgedly!
Eddie has been gifted this one so where the other 3 are now??? Who knows.
Simon Shimomura knew about this it seems and has written about it in his book.
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Cheers for posting that Colin :thumbs:
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Happy Hayes wrote: Fri Aug 20 2021 19:17 -
Cheers for posting that Colin :thumbs:
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Pleased you liked the post, thanks to Eddie Turner for relating the story to me. It seems Terry Savage is still around but not Len. They are legends in the Lea Valley.
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I couldn't resist this one. A cracking little unfished Pflueger Standard 33, complete with box. Circa 1970s and made in Malaysia to Pflueger specifications.

I nice 'companion piece' for some of my Pflueger baits from yesterday same era. :cool:

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That looks simialr to some Shakespeare reels.
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davelumb wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 13:11 -
That looks simialr to some Shakespeare reels.
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a Shakespeare badged version of the same reel Dave. The Pflueger 'Mustang' lure jumped brands to Shakespeare about that time too, so there was a tie-in somewhere.

It might date the early days of 'Pure Fishing', who wound up owning just about everyone, but preserved the old brand names many anglers were still loyal to. :shrug:
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John Milford wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 15:48 -
davelumb wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 13:11 -
That looks simialr to some Shakespeare reels.
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a Shakespeare badged version of the same reel Dave. The Pflueger 'Mustang' lure jumped brands to Shakespeare about that time too, so there was a tie-in somewhere.

It might date the early days of 'Pure Fishing', who wound up owning just about everyone, but preserved the old brand names many anglers were still loyal to. :shrug:
Pure Fishing have recently bought Svendsen Sport. World domination can't be far off.
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Barely vintage - late 90s / early noughties?

I bought this Mitchell 'Full Runner 60 Electronic' very recently as a 'user' and have to say the bite alarm built into the spool end cap is brilliant!

I was already a fan of Mitchell's 'Full Runner' type reels, having used a pair of 'Excellence 60 special' reels for piking in the 90s. The free spool (bait runner) mode is operated by pushing the spool back, rather than a rear lever and it works very well. The addition of an electronic alarm (powered by two button cells) rather than a clicker is inspired.

I'm really surprised the idea didn't develop beyond this model or get taken up by other manufacturers?

Quite apart from the neat electronic gizmo, the reel is a very smooth three bearing '6000' size (in modern terms)..

I'm really looking forward to using it for a bit of roving next season.

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John Milford wrote: Thu Mar 31 2022 15:30 -
Barely vintage - late 90s / early noughties?

I bought this Mitchell 'Full Runner 60 Electronic' very recently as a 'user' and have to say the bite alarm built into the spool end cap is brilliant!

I was already a fan of Mitchell's 'Full Runner' type reels, having used a pair of 'Excellence 60 special' reels for piking in the 90s. The free spool (bait runner) mode is operated by pushing the spool back, rather than a rear lever and it works very well. The addition of an electronic alarm (powered by two button cells) rather than a clicker is inspired.

I'm really surprised the idea didn't develop beyond this model or get taken up by other manufacturers?

Quite apart from the neat electronic gizmo, the reel is a very smooth three bearing '6000' size (in modern terms)..

I'm really looking forward to using it for a bit of roving next season.


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I vaguely remember those. I don't suppose it accepts a dongle for a remote sounder? :joker:
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I saw one of those weird Fuji 'pins up for sale the other week. I couldnt resist it for £16 posted.

It's built like a tank, so I think I'll try to get a pike on it next season. :grin:

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John Milford wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 18:48 -
I saw one of those weird Fuji 'pins up for sale the other week. I couldnt resist it for £16 posted.

It's built like a tank, so I think I'll try to get a pike on it next season. :grin:


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davelumb wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 18:59 -
John Milford wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 18:48 -
I saw one of those weird Fuji 'pins up for sale the other week. I couldnt resist it for £16 posted.

It's built like a tank, so I think I'll try to get a pike on it next season. :grin:


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Sidecaster?
:thumbs: It's even got a line clip - They've thought of everything!

(I decided I had to have one after watching that video you posted a while back. :pipe: ).
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John Milford wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 20:18 -
davelumb wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 18:59 -
John Milford wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 18:48 -
I saw one of those weird Fuji 'pins up for sale the other week. I couldnt resist it for £16 posted.

It's built like a tank, so I think I'll try to get a pike on it next season. :grin:


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Sidecaster?
:thumbs: It's even got a line clip - They've thought of everything!

(I decided I had to have one after watching that video you posted a while back. :pipe: ).
I thought I'd seen that video somewhere when I reGoogled 'Fuji reel'. :dizzy:

For £16 I might have been tempted myself!

There's another vid of a plainer (but nice) Fuji centrepin. :exit:

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davelumb wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 16:29 -
John Milford wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 15:48 -
davelumb wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 13:11 -
That looks simialr to some Shakespeare reels.
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a Shakespeare badged version of the same reel Dave. The Pflueger 'Mustang' lure jumped brands to Shakespeare about that time too, so there was a tie-in somewhere.

It might date the early days of 'Pure Fishing', who wound up owning just about everyone, but preserved the old brand names many anglers were still loyal to. :shrug:
Pure Fishing have recently bought Svendsen Sport. World domination can't be far off.
Who is left outside of the Pure Fishing stable?
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peteren wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 20:56 -
davelumb wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 16:29 -
John Milford wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 15:48 -
davelumb wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 13:11 -
That looks simialr to some Shakespeare reels.
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a Shakespeare badged version of the same reel Dave. The Pflueger 'Mustang' lure jumped brands to Shakespeare about that time too, so there was a tie-in somewhere.

It might date the early days of 'Pure Fishing', who wound up owning just about everyone, but preserved the old brand names many anglers were still loyal to. :shrug:
Pure Fishing have recently bought Svendsen Sport. World domination can't be far off.
Who is left outside of the Pure Fishing stable?
Anything owned by the Shimano or Rather Outdoors empires. :joker:

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davelumb wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 21:00 -
peteren wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 20:56 -
davelumb wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 16:29 -
John Milford wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 15:48 -
davelumb wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 13:11 -
That looks simialr to some Shakespeare reels.
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a Shakespeare badged version of the same reel Dave. The Pflueger 'Mustang' lure jumped brands to Shakespeare about that time too, so there was a tie-in somewhere.

It might date the early days of 'Pure Fishing', who wound up owning just about everyone, but preserved the old brand names many anglers were still loyal to. :shrug:
Pure Fishing have recently bought Svendsen Sport. World domination can't be far off.
Who is left outside of the Pure Fishing stable?
Anything owned by the Shimano or Rather Outdoors empires. :joker:

Haven't heard of Rather Outdoors? https://www.ratheroutdoors.com/en/our-brands
Thanks Dave.
Tackle industry has consolidated like the chemicals one I used to be in!

But maybe worse "levelling - down" in brands' quality, since eg. ABU Made in Sweden era?
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peteren wrote: Wed Apr 20 2022 09:26 -
davelumb wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 21:00 -
peteren wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 20:56 -
davelumb wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 16:29 -
John Milford wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 15:48 -
davelumb wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 13:11 -
That looks simialr to some Shakespeare reels.
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a Shakespeare badged version of the same reel Dave. The Pflueger 'Mustang' lure jumped brands to Shakespeare about that time too, so there was a tie-in somewhere.

It might date the early days of 'Pure Fishing', who wound up owning just about everyone, but preserved the old brand names many anglers were still loyal to. :shrug:
Pure Fishing have recently bought Svendsen Sport. World domination can't be far off.
Who is left outside of the Pure Fishing stable?
Anything owned by the Shimano or Rather Outdoors empires. :joker:

Haven't heard of Rather Outdoors? https://www.ratheroutdoors.com/en/our-brands
Thanks Dave.
Tackle industry has consolidated like the chemicals one I used to be in!

But maybe worse "levelling - down" in brands' quality, since eg. ABU Made in Sweden era?
There are still independents, and other groups. There's still a range of quality, but maybe the best is more expensive? Then again, Abu reels were out of my price range!
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davelumb wrote: Wed Apr 20 2022 10:15 -
peteren wrote: Wed Apr 20 2022 09:26 -
davelumb wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 21:00 -
peteren wrote: Tue Apr 19 2022 20:56 -
davelumb wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 16:29 -
John Milford wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 15:48 -
davelumb wrote: Wed Feb 16 2022 13:11 -
That looks simialr to some Shakespeare reels.
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a Shakespeare badged version of the same reel Dave. The Pflueger 'Mustang' lure jumped brands to Shakespeare about that time too, so there was a tie-in somewhere.

It might date the early days of 'Pure Fishing', who wound up owning just about everyone, but preserved the old brand names many anglers were still loyal to. :shrug:
Pure Fishing have recently bought Svendsen Sport. World domination can't be far off.
Who is left outside of the Pure Fishing stable?
Anything owned by the Shimano or Rather Outdoors empires. :joker:

Haven't heard of Rather Outdoors? https://www.ratheroutdoors.com/en/our-brands
Thanks Dave.
Tackle industry has consolidated like the chemicals one I used to be in!

But maybe worse "levelling - down" in brands' quality, since eg. ABU Made in Sweden era?
There are still independents, and other groups. There's still a range of quality, but maybe the best is more expensive? Then again, Abu reels were out of my price range!

Danielson reels are fully independent, despite the company being Scandinavian you can phone and speak in English direct to Tomas Danielson himself. Competitive prices with a rock solid guarantee.

Alutecnos Reels are another independent. McLean nets in NZ another.

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My recently bought centrepins.
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Top left: Allcocks Match Aerial.
Top right: Terry Daniels Match Aerial wide drum.

Bottom left: JW Young Trudex.
Bottom right: Fred Crouch Match Aerial wide drum.

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All to be christened soon. I might use one of my dads old rods but really would like to put them on a Bob James & Son Richard Walker Mk4 Carp and or Avon rod but they're a bit on the pricey side.

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martin(rockape) wrote: Fri May 06 2022 08:45 -
My recently bought centrepins.

20220506_082515.jpg

Top left: Allcocks Match Aerial.
Top right: Terry Daniels Match Aerial wide drum.

Bottom left: JW Young Trudex.
Bottom right: Fred Crouch Match Aerial wide drum.


20220506_082609.jpg

All to be christened soon. I might use one of my dads old rods but really would like to put them on a Bob James & Son Richard Walker Mk4 Carp and or Avon rod but they're a bit on the pricey side.

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Lovely Martin!

I've got the wide drum Match Aerial, with it's original case, which was a bonus. :cool:

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John Milford wrote: Fri May 06 2022 10:22 -
martin(rockape) wrote: Fri May 06 2022 08:45 -
My recently bought centrepins.

20220506_082515.jpg

Top left: Allcocks Match Aerial.
Top right: Terry Daniels Match Aerial wide drum.

Bottom left: JW Young Trudex.
Bottom right: Fred Crouch Match Aerial wide drum.


20220506_082609.jpg

All to be christened soon. I might use one of my dads old rods but really would like to put them on a Bob James & Son Richard Walker Mk4 Carp and or Avon rod but they're a bit on the pricey side.

Regards

Martin
Lovely Martin!

I've got the wide drum Match Aerial, with it's original case, which was a bonus. :cool:


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Cracking reels aren't they. I wouldn't mind finding a Fred Crouch reel made from the Allcocks mould before it broke also with the Allcocks registration number which he change slightly by switching the last 2 digits around to evade copyright apparently.

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