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Re: (Vintage) Lure Porn

Post by davelumb » Tue Oct 30 2018 15:12

I remember the ads for the Dibros. Can't recall ever seeing one though.

As a kid I bought a Winfield brown and gold brass Devon minnow. Which I lost in the canal...

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Post by John Milford » Tue Oct 30 2018 23:01

davelumb wrote:
I remember the ads for the Dibros. Can't recall ever seeing one though.

As a kid I bought a Winfield brown and gold brass Devon minnow. Which I lost in the canal...
:cry: If you'd bought a DiBro, you might still have it - they were lighter than wooden Devons. :smile:

I've only used a Devon a few times as a kid - I had a little blue/silver one, probably Woolie's too, long since mislaid.

I'd be kicking myself if I'd lost either of these early 'reversible' ones though.

The top is by John Gow of Glasgow (who I think we're primarily gun smiths) and the other by the Angling & Shooting Implements Co., Eccles. I believe these date from between the Wars.

(The reversible fin idea though, is a Victorian concept - patented in 1889 by H L Inskip and was first used on the exceedingly rare 'Inskip Phantom').

John R Gow & Sons 'Twin Spin' Devon
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The Eccles reversible Devon
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Post by davelumb » Wed Oct 31 2018 09:07

I think I'll write to Eccles for one of their leaflets. :joker:

Makes me wonder how many small tackle manufacturers have come and gone over the years though.

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Post by Mark_Houghton » Wed Oct 31 2018 11:41

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I think I'll write to Eccles for one of their leaflets. :joker:

Makes me wonder how many small tackle manufacturers have come and gone over the years though.
Probably a lot more than we realise Dave. Same with luremakers....I was sent some copies of the old LAS mags recently and was surprised the amount of lads making and selling lures back then.

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Post by davelumb » Wed Oct 31 2018 12:33

The same with local wholesalers. All swallowed up or put ot of business by the national firms. Many of these had their own branded items. From bait tubs to rods.

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Post by Mark_Houghton » Wed Oct 31 2018 12:37

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The same with local wholesalers. All swallowed up or put ot of business by the national firms. Many of these had their own branded items. From bait tubs to rods.

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I remember the East Anglian Rod Co. they did some decent gear at the time :thumbs:

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Post by John Milford » Wed Oct 31 2018 19:18

davelumb wrote:
The same with local wholesalers. All swallowed up or put ot of business by the national firms. Many of these had their own branded items. From bait tubs to rods.

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While we're up a 'Vintage bait box Porn' twig :grin:

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davelumb wrote:
The same with local wholesalers. All swallowed up or put ot of business by the national firms. Many of these had their own branded items. From bait tubs to rods.

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While we're up a 'Vintage bait box Porn' twig :grin:

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Post by Mark_Houghton » Wed Oct 31 2018 21:04

That`s why I love vintage stuff like that....you dont get workmanship like that now, just plastic tat :thumbs:

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Post by John Milford » Wed Oct 31 2018 23:40

Back to Vintage lure porn . . . :smile:

Another interesting variation on the 'reversible spin' Devon - the 'Griffiths Minnow', patented in 1922. The nose of this Devon can be unscrewed to enable an alternatively pitched tri-lobed fin to be fitted. They are very rare old lures, and finding one complete with both sets of fins is even rarer, as the 'loose' one invariably got lost!

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Also patented in 1922, was this clever Devon with collapsible fins, known as the 'Baker' Devon, after it's inventor Frank Baker of Birmingham. Another very scarce and highly sough-after collectible.

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Post by John Milford » Mon Nov 05 2018 22:53

Anyone who's done any fly fishing will realise they're just tiny lures, made out of feathers. OK, enough of my excuses - I'm just posting them because I like them - and especially the box!).

It's the pre-WW1 Richard Wheatley 'pictoral' box, depicting the island castle where Mary Queen of Scots was imprisoned. I'm a terror for removing sticky labels off things, but I could not bring myself to remove the paper label on the lid. It was probably stuck on it by its original owner, over 100 years ago!

The box contains mainly sea trout lures, from the same era as the box, mostly with 'japanned' double 'irons' and a few with gut eyes. These are held by 35 clips in the gilded interior and the lid is complete with its original felt pad.

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Post by John Milford » Mon Nov 05 2018 23:21

davelumb wrote:
. . . . plus c'est la même chose. (A recurring theme on this thread :smile: ).
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Post by Will Smith » Tue Nov 06 2018 00:03

That is a very nice little item John, I also really like the box, I tend not to bother that much with flies as they don't hold my interest in the same way as more conventional lures do, however, I did (through a shear fluke) end up buying a rather nice fishing display unit/case at a sale a few months ago, it has about 8 or 10 pull out drawers full of various Salmon and Sea Trout flies, also a few smaller examples to boot.
I think that you would approve John, I will put up some picks of it up in a day or so, I have not had the time to do anything with it so far and it is still as just as I bought it, not that I intend to do anything other than give it a clean and a polish, I meant that I have not had time to sort and arrange all the various contents.
I intend to display my most cherished lures and fishing memorabilia in it eventually :wink: .
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Post by John Milford » Tue Nov 06 2018 13:37

Will Smith wrote:
That is a very nice little item John, I also really like the box, I tend not to bother that much with flies as they don't hold my interest in the same way as more conventional lures do, however, I did (through a shear fluke) end up buying a rather nice fishing display unit/case at a sale a few months ago, it has about 8 or 10 pull out drawers full of various Salmon and Sea Trout flies, also a few smaller examples to boot.
I think that you would approve John, I will put up some picks of it up in a day or so, I have not had the time to do anything with it so far and it is still as just as I bought it, not that I intend to do anything other than give it a clean and a polish, I meant that I have not had time to sort and arrange all the various contents.
I intend to display my most cherished lures and fishing memorabilia in it eventually :wink: .
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Gut-eyed salmon and sea trout flies have quite a collector following Will - we'll look forward to seeing those. :thumbs:

I know what you mean about flies. They're not as tactile as lures and don't quite appeal to me as much either. The box was another matter though - and once you have a nice box, well, you just have to fill it up don't you? :grin:

There are a few 'fluffy' lures I really do like though, such as these Hardy flyrod fly/ spinners:

Rare Hardy 'Aaro' Flies, developed specially for salmon fishing on the Aaroy in Norway and patented in 1894. I think the one on the left is a 'Durham Ranger' pattern. The one on the right was given to me by Merv "Ziggy" Jones - who was about to use it for perch!! :hissy:
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Hardy's 'Halcyon' spinners are a similar hybrid, but with a treble. This one is the 'Improved' Halcyon with independently revolving, rather than fixed, spinning fins. These first appeared in 1900.
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And my favourite from Allcocks, the 'Aquatic Spider', introduced in 1919.
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Post by John Milford » Wed Nov 14 2018 23:59

OK, enough of the fluffy stuff and back to my favourite collectibles - British metal baits.

Like the Allcocks 'Waterwitch' spinners I've shown earlier, these baits came from the fertile mind of Alfred Courtney Williams and were patented in 1922. If ACW's name seems familiar, it might be because he was the author of the excellent little book 'Angling Diversions', which he wrote in is dotage and was published in 1945.

They are the Allcocks 'Dazzle' and were sold in three sizes: 'Sea' (3 blades), 'Salmon' (5 blades) and 'Pike' (6 blades). The two larger ones below are stamped 'Prov. Patent', so are very early examples. Interestingly, a 7 blade version also exists, but it does not seem to be named or catalogued. The one with the red glass beads is the only one I've seen with them - most just have the simple metal cylinders as spacer/bearings for the spinning blades. These are quite scarce old lures and bidding is usually brisk whenever one appears for sale! :pipe:

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Post by John Milford » Thu Nov 22 2018 11:36

Obscure baits by well-known manufacturers. You can make out the maker, but what is the model name on the other side of this little 3/8 oz. 'banana' bait? 🤔
(Has anyone got any other teasers?)

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Post by Steve Burke » Thu Nov 22 2018 12:55

Can't quite see the maker. Arbogast?

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Post by John Milford » Thu Nov 22 2018 13:41

Steve Burke wrote:
Can't quite see the maker. Arbogast?
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Post by Mark_Houghton » Thu Nov 22 2018 14:32

No idea of the name John, but I can picture the action of it. Similar "bent" baits around nowadays....

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No idea of the name John, but I can picture the action of it. Similar "bent" baits around nowadays....
Very snake-like Mark :thumbs: I won't string it out - it's a 'Dorado' - I think from the '80's, when Arbogast were trying to diversify from the all-conquering Jitterbug. They brought out a great crankbait too at that time called the 'Pug Nose', but I haven't got one of those (yet).

What about these 'Whopper Stopper' baits? (For some reason the top one reminds me of Steve 'Spike' Gould! :rock: ) Clue: We all like one of these! :wink: :hump:

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John Milford wrote:
Mark_Houghton wrote:
No idea of the name John, but I can picture the action of it. Similar "bent" baits around nowadays....
Very snake-like Mark :thumbs: I won't string it out - it's a 'Dorado' - I think from the '80's, when Arbogast were trying to diversify from the all-conquering Jitterbug. They brought out a great crankbait too at that time called the 'Pug Nose', but I haven't got one of those (yet).

What about these 'Whopper Stopper' baits? (For some reason the top one reminds me of Steve 'Spike' Gould! :rock: ) Clue: We all like one of these! :wink: :hump:

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I remember the "Arby" and the "Phred`s Shadeux" from Arbogast, although I didnt own either.....

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Post by John Milford » Thu Nov 22 2018 15:57

You mentioning those Mark makes me ponder just how many baits have passed through our hands that, for one reason or another, we no longer have?

I had an 'Arby Hanger' (long gone) but still have several 'Phreds Shadeaux'. Nice wooden shad crankbaits. I've also got one of the 'walk the dog' baits from that series: 'Phred's Phideaux'. (Now, where are they . . . .?)
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John Milford wrote:
You mentioning those Mark makes me ponder just how many baits have passed through our hands that, for one reason or another, we no longer have?

I had an 'Arby Hanger' (long gone) but still have several 'Phreds Shadeaux'. Nice wooden shad crankbaits. I've also got one of the 'walk the dog' baits from that series: 'Phred's Phideaux'. (Now, where are they . . . .?)
I know where my old baits are....sold a full cantilever boxful to a mate when i packed in for a spell in the early 90s, and he`s not used them since and won`t sell them back :laughs:

Andrew N got a few of my killers too.....

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John Milford wrote:
Mark_Houghton wrote:
No idea of the name John, but I can picture the action of it. Similar "bent" baits around nowadays....
Very snake-like Mark :thumbs: I won't string it out - it's a 'Dorado' - I think from the '80's, when Arbogast were trying to diversify from the all-conquering Jitterbug. They brought out a great crankbait too at that time called the 'Pug Nose', but I haven't got one of those (yet).

What about these 'Whopper Stopper' baits? (For some reason the top one reminds me of Steve 'Spike' Gould! :rock: ) Clue: We all like one of these! :wink: :hump:

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Would it be cheating for me to look that lure up in my Whopper Stopper catalogue? :smile:

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davelumb wrote:
John Milford wrote:
Mark_Houghton wrote:
No idea of the name John, but I can picture the action of it. Similar "bent" baits around nowadays....
Very snake-like Mark :thumbs: I won't string it out - it's a 'Dorado' - I think from the '80's, when Arbogast were trying to diversify from the all-conquering Jitterbug. They brought out a great crankbait too at that time called the 'Pug Nose', but I haven't got one of those (yet).

What about these 'Whopper Stopper' baits? (For some reason the top one reminds me of Steve 'Spike' Gould! :rock: ) Clue: We all like one of these! :wink: :hump:

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Would it be cheating for me to look that lure up in my Whopper Stopper catalogue? :smile:
I was going to google it :laughs: :laughs:

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Mark_Houghton wrote:
davelumb wrote:
John Milford wrote:
Mark_Houghton wrote:
No idea of the name John, but I can picture the action of it. Similar "bent" baits around nowadays....
Very snake-like Mark :thumbs: I won't string it out - it's a 'Dorado' - I think from the '80's, when Arbogast were trying to diversify from the all-conquering Jitterbug. They brought out a great crankbait too at that time called the 'Pug Nose', but I haven't got one of those (yet).

What about these 'Whopper Stopper' baits? (For some reason the top one reminds me of Steve 'Spike' Gould! :rock: ) Clue: We all like one of these! :wink: :hump:

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Would it be cheating for me to look that lure up in my Whopper Stopper catalogue? :smile:
I was going to google it :laughs: :laughs:
That might be quicker! :grin:

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Would it be cheating for me to look that lure up in my Whopper Stopper catalogue? :smile:
That's not cheating - it's 'research' :laughs: :pipe:

(As is Google Mark - good luck with that. I find that unless a search is very specific, it can be like looking for a needle in a haystack! I do find it useful to confirm detail on things I 'half remember' :wink: ).
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John Milford wrote:
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Would it be cheating for me to look that lure up in my Whopper Stopper catalogue? :smile:
That's not cheating - it's 'research' :laughs: :pipe:

(As is Google Mark - good luck with that. I find that unless a search is very specific, it can be like looking for a needle in a haystack! I do find it useful to confirm detail on things I 'half remember' :wink: ).
Took 15 seconds to find the name of your baits mate :wink: :thumbs:

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Mark_Houghton wrote:
John Milford wrote:
davelumb wrote:

Would it be cheating for me to look that lure up in my Whopper Stopper catalogue? :smile:
That's not cheating - it's 'research' :laughs: :pipe:

(As is Google Mark - good luck with that. I find that unless a search is very specific, it can be like looking for a needle in a haystack! I do find it useful to confirm detail on things I 'half remember' :wink: ).
Took 15 seconds to find the name of your baits mate :wink: :thumbs:
:thumbs: To be fair Mark, 'Whopper Stopper' does not bring up many extraneous results. I just tried it - and now I want a 'Lizzard' and a 'Topper' :hissy:
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