Its not a Rat its a Hogg
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Its not a Rat its a Hogg
Took me ages to get it out of the trap
Left it to toggle off in its own time and 10 mins later it was gone
Grant
Left it to toggle off in its own time and 10 mins later it was gone
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Re: Its not a Rat its a Hogg
I've had a trap out for a while and only caught two hedge pigs (or one hedge pig twice). Their spines do make it difficult to remove them from the trap!
Not seen the rat for a while though.
Not seen the rat for a while though.
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Re: Its not a Rat its a Hogg
davelumb wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 16:12 -I Just shoved that stick up its backside after a bit it soon moved MrI've had a trap out for a while and only caught two hedge pigs (or one hedge pig twice). Their spines do make it difficult to remove them from the trap!
Not seen the rat for a while though.
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Crackoff wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 16:15 -davelumb wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 16:12 -I Just shoved that stick up its backside after a bit it soon moved MrI've had a trap out for a while and only caught two hedge pigs (or one hedge pig twice). Their spines do make it difficult to remove them from the trap!
Not seen the rat for a while though.
Grant
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Re: Its not a Rat its a Hogg
Rats are a bit too cunning for cage traps. I had one in the chicken run and got just one rat in over a month, despite there being plenty of rats (the little b******s were eating all the eggs!). Snap traps in the shed (where the hens have no access) got a few, but they soon wised up to those too.
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Re: Its not a Rat its a Hogg
davelumb wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 16:18 -Errrrr that remark was in cheek MrCrackoff wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 16:15 -davelumb wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 16:12 -I Just shoved that stick up its backside after a bit it soon moved MrI've had a trap out for a while and only caught two hedge pigs (or one hedge pig twice). Their spines do make it difficult to remove them from the trap!
Not seen the rat for a while though.
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Crackoff wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 19:08 -I didn't think you meant it literally. But it might have made a good bog brush if you had!davelumb wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 16:18 -Errrrr that remark was in cheek MrCrackoff wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 16:15 -davelumb wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 16:12 -I Just shoved that stick up its backside after a bit it soon moved MrI've had a trap out for a while and only caught two hedge pigs (or one hedge pig twice). Their spines do make it difficult to remove them from the trap!
Not seen the rat for a while though.
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Re: Its not a Rat its a Hogg
I have also had a hedgie in a trap, it was not as large as Grants fattie and came out okay. It seemed quite weak so I put it in a box and gave it some of my worms from the wormery, it then went to sleep, the box was left open and walked away a during the night.
Coincidently a young rat appeared on my bird table two days ago, I shot it at 16.30 the next day in a safe place I bait with a clear view from the kitchen.
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Coincidently a young rat appeared on my bird table two days ago, I shot it at 16.30 the next day in a safe place I bait with a clear view from the kitchen.
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Re: Its not a Rat its a Hogg
Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 16:55 -We had rats in our chicken/duck pen. I said to the mrs I’ve bought a humane cage trap.She said what are you gonna do with the rat if you catch one? Tip it into a sack and beat the b*****d with a piece of wood I replied. She didn’t think that was very humane for some reason!Rats are a bit too cunning for cage traps. I had one in the chicken run and got just one rat in over a month, despite there being plenty of rats (the little b******s were eating all the eggs!). Snap traps in the shed (where the hens have no access) got a few, but they soon wised up to those too.
As you say the buggers are too clever and I only caught a small one. Snap traps caught a few but poison blocks put where the poultry can’t get them was the only thing that worked.
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Mattjb wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 22:25 -I wouldn't dare use poison for fear of my dog getting it as well as the hens. Years ago I'd just shoot them, but rampant development has rendered air rifle usage in the garden too riskySnap traps caught a few but poison blocks put where the poultry can’t get them was the only thing that worked.
My dog has killed a few though. I've never known a German Shepherd "ratter" before, but she'll marmalise 'em if she gets the chance!
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Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 16:55 -Got to say I don't understand this SteveRats are a bit too cunning for cage traps. I had one in the chicken run and got just one rat in over a month, despite there being plenty of rats (the little b******s were eating all the eggs!). Snap traps in the shed (where the hens have no access) got a few, but they soon wised up to those too.
If there caught then released yes they would wise up
But if there caught then killed how do they wise up ?????
I'm not having a go just a bit confused
Cheers buddy
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Re: Its not a Rat its a Hogg
Crackoff wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07 2022 12:33 -It happens every time I get the snap traps out. I'll get a full house (4 traps, 4 rats) straight away, then maybe 1 the next day and three unsprung traps and after that nothing at all. No traps sprung and even the freebies (crumbled Krill boilies are my bait of choice) left untouched.
Got to say I don't understand this Steve
If there caught then released yes they would wise up
But if there caught then killed how do they wise up ?????
I'm not having a go just a bit confused
Cheers buddy
Grant
Obviously I'm not suggesting that the dead rats learn not to stick their heads in the traps a second time, but the others seemingly learn from their mistake. When the traps are left untouched I often see rats in the chicken run, so it's not that there simply aren't any more rats, they're just avoiding the traps and refusing the delicious boilies.
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Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07 2022 12:54 -I've watched rats crawl over dead ones in spring traps. Maybe they work it out that way?Crackoff wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07 2022 12:33 -It happens every time I get the snap traps out. I'll get a full house (4 traps, 4 rats) straight away, then maybe 1 the next day and three unsprung traps and after that nothing at all. No traps sprung and even the freebies (crumbled Krill boilies are my bait of choice) left untouched.
Got to say I don't understand this Steve
If there caught then released yes they would wise up
But if there caught then killed how do they wise up ?????
I'm not having a go just a bit confused
Cheers buddy
Grant
Obviously I'm not suggesting that the dead rats learn not to stick their heads in the traps a second time, but the others seemingly learn from their mistake. When the traps are left untouched I often see rats in the chicken run, so it's not that there simply aren't any more rats, they're just avoiding the traps and refusing the delicious boilies.
Activ-8 boilies are my bait of choice for Roland.
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Re: Its not a Rat its a Hogg
Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 23:03 -I put the snap traps in the chicken pen but made some mesh cages with a small opening to put over the top and peg down . That worked to a certain extent though one rat was a clever b*****d. I had it set so the it was just on the pin and the next day it would be 5 mm on the pin so it had lifted it rather than pushed down on it.This happened quite a few nights so I made a reverse pin so if it was lifted it would snap but I still couldn’t catch the swine! Poison sorted it though!Mattjb wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 22:25 -I wouldn't dare use poison for fear of my dog getting it as well as the hens. Years ago I'd just shoot them, but rampant development has rendered air rifle usage in the garden too riskySnap traps caught a few but poison blocks put where the poultry can’t get them was the only thing that worked.
My dog has killed a few though. I've never known a German Shepherd "ratter" before, but she'll marmalise 'em if she gets the chance!
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Re: Its not a Rat its a Hogg
Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 23:03 -Mattjb wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 22:25 -I wouldn't dare use poison for fear of my dog getting it as well as the hens. Years ago I'd just shoot them, but rampant development has rendered air rifle usage in the garden too riskySnap traps caught a few but poison blocks put where the poultry can’t get them was the only thing that worked.
My dog has killed a few though. I've never known a German Shepherd "ratter" before, but she'll marmalise 'em if she gets the chance!
My advice is to construct a safe kill zone Steve.
The one I have is foolproof, ultra safe for air rifle use and its very very effective.
The zone is in a corner, it has a back, roof and a hangover all constructed from 1" boards of solid wood on an earth base. At each end is a entry/exit hole. All the internal boards are painted white.
It is in full view of the kitchen window and with the white backboards anything that moves within is instantly noticed.
I leave it unbaited but when a rat is spotted or suspected to be around I bait it with rice grains, rolled oats or similar, anything that means a rat needs to make many visits to the zone. Visitors are permitted to feed freely, only when the settle down are they dealt with.
The rifle is zeroed on the zone, and I use flat head pellets. Mr Walther normally outscores Mr Fenn by +7:1 per year.
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Re: Its not a Rat its a Hogg
davelumb wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05 2022 16:12 -Perhaps it's left for its annual fortnight's holiday on Kev's boat?I've had a trap out for a while and only caught two hedge pigs (or one hedge pig twice). Their spines do make it difficult to remove them from the trap!
Not seen the rat for a while though.
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To that one soul reading this
I know your tired fed up and close to braking
But theres strength within you even when you feel week
You've come too far to give up now
Stay strong and keep fighting
To that one soul reading this
I know your tired fed up and close to braking
But theres strength within you even when you feel week
You've come too far to give up now
Stay strong and keep fighting
Re: Its not a Rat its a Hogg
Mike J wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08 2022 15:51 -What the chuff you shooting the rats with Mike ...a Desert Eagle ?Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 23:03 -Mattjb wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 22:25 -I wouldn't dare use poison for fear of my dog getting it as well as the hens. Years ago I'd just shoot them, but rampant development has rendered air rifle usage in the garden too riskySnap traps caught a few but poison blocks put where the poultry can’t get them was the only thing that worked.
My dog has killed a few though. I've never known a German Shepherd "ratter" before, but she'll marmalise 'em if she gets the chance!
My advice is to construct a safe kill zone Steve.
The one I have is foolproof, ultra safe for air rifle use and its very very effective.
The zone is in a corner, it has a back, roof and a hangover all constructed from 1" boards of solid wood on an earth base. At each end is a entry/exit hole. All the internal boards are painted white.
It is in full view of the kitchen window and with the white backboards anything that moves within is instantly noticed.
I leave it unbaited but when a rat is spotted or suspected to be around I bait it with rice grains, rolled oats or similar, anything that means a rat needs to make many visits to the zone. Visitors are permitted to feed freely, only when the settle down are they dealt with.
The rifle is zeroed on the zone, and I use flat head pellets. Mr Walther normally outscores Mr Fenn by +7:1 per year.
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Re: Its not a Rat its a Hogg
Kev Berry wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11 2022 22:02 -Mike J wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08 2022 15:51 -What the chuff you shooting the rats with Mike ...a Desert Eagle ?Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 23:03 -Mattjb wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06 2022 22:25 -I wouldn't dare use poison for fear of my dog getting it as well as the hens. Years ago I'd just shoot them, but rampant development has rendered air rifle usage in the garden too riskySnap traps caught a few but poison blocks put where the poultry can’t get them was the only thing that worked.
My dog has killed a few though. I've never known a German Shepherd "ratter" before, but she'll marmalise 'em if she gets the chance!
My advice is to construct a safe kill zone Steve.
The one I have is foolproof, ultra safe for air rifle use and its very very effective.
The zone is in a corner, it has a back, roof and a hangover all constructed from 1" boards of solid wood on an earth base. At each end is a entry/exit hole. All the internal boards are painted white.
It is in full view of the kitchen window and with the white backboards anything that moves within is instantly noticed.
I leave it unbaited but when a rat is spotted or suspected to be around I bait it with rice grains, rolled oats or similar, anything that means a rat needs to make many visits to the zone. Visitors are permitted to feed freely, only when the settle down are they dealt with.
The rifle is zeroed on the zone, and I use flat head pellets. Mr Walther normally outscores Mr Fenn by +7:1 per year.
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If a round leaves your property you can be prosecuted, hence the belt and braces.
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