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The attack trained security dog was hard at work today
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Quite obviously ready to "trip em up".

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Very well trained Sir.
If she had been cross wise it wouldn't have been possible to step over her.
What do you feed her on, grilled leg of shoplifters?
She must weight 7-8stone at least.
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Very well trained Sir.
If she had been cross wise it wouldn't have been possible to step over her.
What do you feed her on, grilled leg of shoplifters?
She must weight 7-8stone at least.
she is 75lb Mike, quite large for a girl bulldog at 16.5" at the shoulder

her job is to stop people leaving who havnt spent enough :laughs:
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did you type that with a stutter kev images of arkwright spring to mind
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This is what you call a big dog Mike, you can just see Nell's a**e on the left for comparison (she was only about a year old then)
he would eat 2 shoplifters a day :laughs:
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Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 17:45 -
This is what you call a big dog Mike, you can just see Nell's a**e on the left for comparison (she was only about a year old then)
he would eat 2 shoplifters a day :laughs:
Is that a Tibetan Kev?
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Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 18:43 -
Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 17:45 -
This is what you call a big dog Mike, you can just see Nell's a**e on the left for comparison (she was only about a year old then)
he would eat 2 shoplifters a day :laughs:
Is that a Tibetan Kev?
Caucasian Ovcharka---15 months old

the REAL Tibetans (which you wont see in this country) are about the same size. The really big ones are in Tibet, very few are allowed out of Tibet and only by permission of the Deli Llama. More than likely the ovcharkas are descended from the Tibetans which are reckoned to be one of the oldest breeds.
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Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 19:16 -
Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 18:43 -
Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 17:45 -
This is what you call a big dog Mike, you can just see Nell's a**e on the left for comparison (she was only about a year old then)
he would eat 2 shoplifters a day :laughs:
Is that a Tibetan Kev?
Caucasian Ovcharka---15 months old

the REAL Tibetans (which you wont see in this country) are about the same size. The really big ones are in Tibet, very few are allowed out of Tibet and only by permission of the Deli Llama. More than likely the ovcharkas are descended from the Tibetans which are reckoned to be one of the oldest breeds.
Thanks, we would love a Tibetan but as you say impossible to find.

Will do some research on the Ovchatka, in your experience what is their generalised character?
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Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 19:28 -
Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 19:16 -
Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 18:43 -
Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 17:45 -
This is what you call a big dog Mike, you can just see Nell's a**e on the left for comparison (she was only about a year old then)
he would eat 2 shoplifters a day :laughs:
Is that a Tibetan Kev?
Caucasian Ovcharka---15 months old

the REAL Tibetans (which you wont see in this country) are about the same size. The really big ones are in Tibet, very few are allowed out of Tibet and only by permission of the Deli Llama. More than likely the ovcharkas are descended from the Tibetans which are reckoned to be one of the oldest breeds.
Thanks, we would love a Tibetan but as you say impossible to find.

Will do some research on the Ovchatka, in your experience what is their generalised character?
not a beginners dog---if you havnt handled big guarding type dogs before this is not the dog for you
they are fantastic family dogs, very clever, and very stubborn, you need to be very firm with them regards who is no 1
they do not need any training to guard or protect
if you have a lot of visitors or your kids have loads of friends round ---don't have one, its not worth the hassle, like I said they will protect and if little johny is screaming he will steam in to protect him even if its just kids playing
Everything they guard belongs to them including kids, bikes cars other dogs---they will not tolerate strangers touching them. Regular visitors they will accept after a while--best to get regulars known while they young pups, they will guard from about 5 months or so.
Heres a pic of Drago at about 6-7 months---we went night fishing for pike with Alan and Nick. They had been feeding him bits of food for a few hours and Al made the mistake of thinking he was "in"---got too close to Christine handing her a cuppa---nearly lost his meat and two veg, I was taking the pic as he was walking towards her with the mug, missed the action shot as I had dived on him (Drago not Alan :laughs:)
They not indoor dogs, they will quite happily lie outside fast asleep in snow, frost, rain, my 2 used to sleep under a bush at best even though they had access to a barn
When they moult you could stuff a mattress, I think every bird nest for miles had dog fur in them--the robins and sparrows were that cheeky they used to pluck it off them when they were asleep. All the young French Bulldogs used to curl up with them to keep warm if it was a bit nippy outside
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Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 20:37 -
Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 19:28 -
Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 19:16 -
Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 18:43 -
Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 17:45 -
This is what you call a big dog Mike, you can just see Nell's a**e on the left for comparison (she was only about a year old then)
he would eat 2 shoplifters a day :laughs:
Is that a Tibetan Kev?
Caucasian Ovcharka---15 months old

the REAL Tibetans (which you wont see in this country) are about the same size. The really big ones are in Tibet, very few are allowed out of Tibet and only by permission of the Deli Llama. More than likely the ovcharkas are descended from the Tibetans which are reckoned to be one of the oldest breeds.
Thanks, we would love a Tibetan but as you say impossible to find.

Will do some research on the Ovchatka, in your experience what is their generalised character?
not a beginners dog---if you havnt handled big guarding type dogs before this is not the dog for you
they are fantastic family dogs, very clever, and very stubborn, you need to be very firm with them regards who is no 1
they do not need any training to guard or protect
if you have a lot of visitors or your kids have loads of friends round ---don't have one, its not worth the hassle, like I said they will protect and if little johny is screaming he will steam in to protect him even if its just kids playing
Everything they guard belongs to them including kids, bikes cars other dogs---they will not tolerate strangers touching them. Regular visitors they will accept after a while--best to get regulars known while they young pups, they will guard from about 5 months or so.
Heres a pic of Drago at about 6-7 months---we went night fishing for pike with Alan and Nick. They had been feeding him bits of food for a few hours and Al made the mistake of thinking he was "in"---got too close to Christine handing her a cuppa---nearly lost his meat and two veg, I was taking the pic as he was walking towards her with the mug, missed the action shot as I had dived on him (Drago not Alan :laughs:)
They not indoor dogs, they will quite happily lie outside fast asleep in snow, frost, rain, my 2 used to sleep under a bush at best even though they had access to a barn
When they moult you could stuff a mattress, I think every bird nest for miles had dog fur in them--the robins and sparrows were that cheeky they used to pluck it off them when they were asleep. All the young French Bulldogs used to curl up with them to keep warm if it was a bit nippy outside
Thanks for that Kev, I have spent my life with big guarding breeds, rotties mainly.

I am down to one now, an 8yo bitch and we fancy a change, but I need a sociable dog that needs to accept new people easily. As gorgeous as they look might not be the right breed for me.
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Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 21:12 -
Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 20:37 -
Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 19:28 -
Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 19:16 -
Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 18:43 -
Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 17:45 -
This is what you call a big dog Mike, you can just see Nell's a**e on the left for comparison (she was only about a year old then)
he would eat 2 shoplifters a day :laughs:
Is that a Tibetan Kev?
Caucasian Ovcharka---15 months old

the REAL Tibetans (which you wont see in this country) are about the same size. The really big ones are in Tibet, very few are allowed out of Tibet and only by permission of the Deli Llama. More than likely the ovcharkas are descended from the Tibetans which are reckoned to be one of the oldest breeds.
Thanks, we would love a Tibetan but as you say impossible to find.

Will do some research on the Ovchatka, in your experience what is their generalised character?
not a beginners dog---if you havnt handled big guarding type dogs before this is not the dog for you
they are fantastic family dogs, very clever, and very stubborn, you need to be very firm with them regards who is no 1
they do not need any training to guard or protect
if you have a lot of visitors or your kids have loads of friends round ---don't have one, its not worth the hassle, like I said they will protect and if little johny is screaming he will steam in to protect him even if its just kids playing
Everything they guard belongs to them including kids, bikes cars other dogs---they will not tolerate strangers touching them. Regular visitors they will accept after a while--best to get regulars known while they young pups, they will guard from about 5 months or so.
Heres a pic of Drago at about 6-7 months---we went night fishing for pike with Alan and Nick. They had been feeding him bits of food for a few hours and Al made the mistake of thinking he was "in"---got too close to Christine handing her a cuppa---nearly lost his meat and two veg, I was taking the pic as he was walking towards her with the mug, missed the action shot as I had dived on him (Drago not Alan :laughs:)
They not indoor dogs, they will quite happily lie outside fast asleep in snow, frost, rain, my 2 used to sleep under a bush at best even though they had access to a barn
When they moult you could stuff a mattress, I think every bird nest for miles had dog fur in them--the robins and sparrows were that cheeky they used to pluck it off them when they were asleep. All the young French Bulldogs used to curl up with them to keep warm if it was a bit nippy outside
Thanks for that Kev, I have spent my life with big guarding breeds, rotties mainly.

I am down to one now, an 8yo bitch and we fancy a change, but I need a sociable dog that needs to accept new people easily. As gorgeous as they look might not be the right breed for me.
a Leonberger might be the one if you want a similar looking dog

have a look at this Duncan--https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMZz0rvLRtk
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Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 21:23 -
Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 21:12 -
Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 20:37 -
Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 19:28 -
Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 19:16 -
Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 18:43 -
Kev Berry wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 17:45 -
This is what you call a big dog Mike, you can just see Nell's a**e on the left for comparison (she was only about a year old then)
he would eat 2 shoplifters a day :laughs:
Is that a Tibetan Kev?
Caucasian Ovcharka---15 months old

the REAL Tibetans (which you wont see in this country) are about the same size. The really big ones are in Tibet, very few are allowed out of Tibet and only by permission of the Deli Llama. More than likely the ovcharkas are descended from the Tibetans which are reckoned to be one of the oldest breeds.
Thanks, we would love a Tibetan but as you say impossible to find.

Will do some research on the Ovchatka, in your experience what is their generalised character?
not a beginners dog---if you havnt handled big guarding type dogs before this is not the dog for you
they are fantastic family dogs, very clever, and very stubborn, you need to be very firm with them regards who is no 1
they do not need any training to guard or protect
if you have a lot of visitors or your kids have loads of friends round ---don't have one, its not worth the hassle, like I said they will protect and if little johny is screaming he will steam in to protect him even if its just kids playing
Everything they guard belongs to them including kids, bikes cars other dogs---they will not tolerate strangers touching them. Regular visitors they will accept after a while--best to get regulars known while they young pups, they will guard from about 5 months or so.
Heres a pic of Drago at about 6-7 months---we went night fishing for pike with Alan and Nick. They had been feeding him bits of food for a few hours and Al made the mistake of thinking he was "in"---got too close to Christine handing her a cuppa---nearly lost his meat and two veg, I was taking the pic as he was walking towards her with the mug, missed the action shot as I had dived on him (Drago not Alan :laughs:)
They not indoor dogs, they will quite happily lie outside fast asleep in snow, frost, rain, my 2 used to sleep under a bush at best even though they had access to a barn
When they moult you could stuff a mattress, I think every bird nest for miles had dog fur in them--the robins and sparrows were that cheeky they used to pluck it off them when they were asleep. All the young French Bulldogs used to curl up with them to keep warm if it was a bit nippy outside
Thanks for that Kev, I have spent my life with big guarding breeds, rotties mainly.

I am down to one now, an 8yo bitch and we fancy a change, but I need a sociable dog that needs to accept new people easily. As gorgeous as they look might not be the right breed for me.
a Leonberger might be the one if you want a similar looking dog

have a look at this Duncan--https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMZz0rvLRtk
I met a couple a few years ago, the male was an outstanding dog :thumbs:
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One should have a look a one's pen1s before buying any dog, you two suit large guarding type breeds I wager lol

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cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 21:55 -
One should have a look a one's pen1s before buying any dog, you two suit large guarding type breeds I wager lol

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Duncan Holmes wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 22:14 -
cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 21:55 -
One should have a look a one's pen1s before buying any dog, you two suit large guarding type breeds I wager lol

Cheers Alan
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cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 21:55 -
One should have a look a one's pen1s before buying any dog, you two suit large guarding type breeds I wager lol

Cheers Alan
I have also owned chi's as well Alan :wink:
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Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 08:21 -
cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: Wed Jul 25 2018 21:55 -
One should have a look a one's pen1s before buying any dog, you two suit large guarding type breeds I wager lol

Cheers Alan
I have also owned chi's as well Alan :wink:
:laughs: :thumbs:

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What's with the generators, Kev? Are the carp lads buying them to keep their in-bivvy entertainment systems going?
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What's with the generators, Kev? Are the carp lads buying them to keep their in-bivvy entertainment systems going?
Yes the campers need to run their TV's, radios, cd/dvd players, kettles, floodlight systems, phone chargers, folding trouser press, and washing machines :laughs:
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Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:43 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 09:18 -
What's with the generators, Kev? Are the carp lads buying them to keep their in-bivvy entertainment systems going?
Yes the campers need to run their TV's, radios, cd/dvd players, kettles, floodlight systems, phone chargers, folding trouser press, and washing machines :laughs:
What a fookin joke they are!
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davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:54 -
Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:43 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 09:18 -
What's with the generators, Kev? Are the carp lads buying them to keep their in-bivvy entertainment systems going?
Yes the campers need to run their TV's, radios, cd/dvd players, kettles, floodlight systems, phone chargers, folding trouser press, and washing machines :laughs:
What a fookin joke they are!
yep---and so are the fisheries that cater for them---but hey ho, the wolf is kept away from the door
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Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 12:30 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:54 -
Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:43 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 09:18 -
What's with the generators, Kev? Are the carp lads buying them to keep their in-bivvy entertainment systems going?
Yes the campers need to run their TV's, radios, cd/dvd players, kettles, floodlight systems, phone chargers, folding trouser press, and washing machines :laughs:
What a fookin joke they are!
yep---and so are the fisheries that cater for them---but hey ho, the wolf is kept away from the door
You'd think that all fisheries would have electricity sockets in every peg in this day and age. :grin:
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davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 12:44 -
Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 12:30 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:54 -
Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:43 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 09:18 -
What's with the generators, Kev? Are the carp lads buying them to keep their in-bivvy entertainment systems going?
Yes the campers need to run their TV's, radios, cd/dvd players, kettles, floodlight systems, phone chargers, folding trouser press, and washing machines :laughs:
What a fookin joke they are!
yep---and so are the fisheries that cater for them---but hey ho, the wolf is kept away from the door
You'd think that all fisheries would have electricity sockets in every peg in this day and age. :grin:
maybe they dont cos you just know that some clown will drop a live wire in :laughs:
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Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 13:21 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 12:44 -
Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 12:30 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:54 -
Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:43 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 09:18 -
What's with the generators, Kev? Are the carp lads buying them to keep their in-bivvy entertainment systems going?
Yes the campers need to run their TV's, radios, cd/dvd players, kettles, floodlight systems, phone chargers, folding trouser press, and washing machines :laughs:
What a fookin joke they are!
yep---and so are the fisheries that cater for them---but hey ho, the wolf is kept away from the door
You'd think that all fisheries would have electricity sockets in every peg in this day and age. :grin:
maybe they dont cos you just know that some clown will drop a live wire in :laughs:
There are quite a few now with electric sockets in the pegs. Some you don't even need a bivvy - http://cleveleybridgefisheries.com/acco ... ping-pods/ :laughs:
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davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:54 -
Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:43 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 09:18 -
What's with the generators, Kev? Are the carp lads buying them to keep their in-bivvy entertainment systems going?
Yes the campers need to run their TV's, radios, cd/dvd players, kettles, floodlight systems, phone chargers, folding trouser press, and washing machines :laughs:
What a fookin joke they are!
Somewhat different way back in the day, from one of my favorite angling books "The Carp Catches Club". A collection of rotary letters made into a book, not a fluent read but a bit of history.

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I wonder what those lads would make of it today?
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Monts wrote: Fri Jul 27 2018 17:19 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:54 -
Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:43 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 09:18 -
What's with the generators, Kev? Are the carp lads buying them to keep their in-bivvy entertainment systems going?
Yes the campers need to run their TV's, radios, cd/dvd players, kettles, floodlight systems, phone chargers, folding trouser press, and washing machines :laughs:
What a fookin joke they are!
Somewhat different way back in the day, from one of my favorite angling books "The Carp Catches Club". A collection of rotary letters made into a book, not a fluent read but a bit of history.


MI.JPG


I wonder what those lads would make of it today?
What about Jack Hilton night fishing "Junelin's" in a Post Office mail bag!

Today's would-be carpers should be forced to read Quest for Carp before casting a line. :grin:
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davelumb wrote: Fri Jul 27 2018 17:31 -
Monts wrote: Fri Jul 27 2018 17:19 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:54 -
Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:43 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 09:18 -
What's with the generators, Kev? Are the carp lads buying them to keep their in-bivvy entertainment systems going?
Yes the campers need to run their TV's, radios, cd/dvd players, kettles, floodlight systems, phone chargers, folding trouser press, and washing machines :laughs:
What a fookin joke they are!
Somewhat different way back in the day, from one of my favorite angling books "The Carp Catches Club". A collection of rotary letters made into a book, not a fluent read but a bit of history.


MI.JPG


I wonder what those lads would make of it today?
What about Jack Hilton night fishing "Junelin's" in a Post Office mail bag!

Today's would-be carpers should be forced to read Quest for Carp before casting a line. :grin:
Very true another good read, but time moves on sadly, but then I like nostalgia. I keep promising myself I'll fish for Carp again on a local river, they are super spooky but once settled and it can take a few hours they like a bit of crust.

River Carp.JPG

Three good fish here in the photo above one was tucked right away, and just a tail wafting, a very long walk away from the car park. Actually, I think I should. Sorry for the thread hijack Kev. :thumbs:
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Monts wrote: Fri Jul 27 2018 17:52 -
davelumb wrote: Fri Jul 27 2018 17:31 -
Monts wrote: Fri Jul 27 2018 17:19 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:54 -
Kev Berry wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 11:43 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jul 26 2018 09:18 -
What's with the generators, Kev? Are the carp lads buying them to keep their in-bivvy entertainment systems going?
Yes the campers need to run their TV's, radios, cd/dvd players, kettles, floodlight systems, phone chargers, folding trouser press, and washing machines :laughs:
What a fookin joke they are!
Somewhat different way back in the day, from one of my favorite angling books "The Carp Catches Club". A collection of rotary letters made into a book, not a fluent read but a bit of history.


MI.JPG


I wonder what those lads would make of it today?
What about Jack Hilton night fishing "Junelin's" in a Post Office mail bag!

Today's would-be carpers should be forced to read Quest for Carp before casting a line. :grin:
Very true another good read, but time moves on sadly, but then I like nostalgia. I keep promising myself I'll fish for Carp again on a local river, they are super spooky but once settled and it can take a few hours they like a bit of crust.


River Carp.JPG


Three good fish here in the photo above one was tucked right away, and just a tail wafting, a very long walk away from the car park. Actually, I think I should. Sorry for the thread hijack Kev. :thumbs:
no probs mate, conversations change :thumbs:
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