my dog is p****d off
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my dog is p****d off
my name is finn
i loved retrieving wood pigeon every now and then , ha ho , i will just dream of sinking my knashers into packhams b******s .........
i loved retrieving wood pigeon every now and then , ha ho , i will just dream of sinking my knashers into packhams b******s .........
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Re: my dog is p****d off
Have I missed something? Packham surely hasn't managed to make it illegal to shoot woodies has he?
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He did - but apparently its just been rescinded - see here
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 58471.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 58471.html
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Re: my dog is p****d off
This all started from the hunting ban in 2004. That was their first strike.
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Re: my dog is p****d off
lakefisher wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14 2021 18:57 -no pal you cant shoot woodies on a stubble field ......its now called indiscriminately shooting of wildlife and you will be prosecuted ...sad but trueHe did - but apparently its just been rescinded - see here
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 58471.html
my mate nearly got arrested by the bobbies a few weeks back..........thats including air rifles
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Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14 2021 18:36 -he has instigated it all and now its the law .......Have I missed something? Packham surely hasn't managed to make it illegal to shoot woodies has he?
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SmellySmelt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15 2021 17:29 -crafty t***s this all went down throughout the pandemic and it got sneaked in the backdoor while we was not focused on doing any shooting.... as you could not go out and fish or shootThis all started from the hunting ban in 2004. That was their first strike.
2019/2020/2021.....sneaky t***s
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theirs going to be a pigeon boom with hardly any getting shot ......the downside the farmers will lose out yet again .....
it makes sense to keep the numbers down .....wood pigeons can do a lot of damage to crops
it makes sense to keep the numbers down .....wood pigeons can do a lot of damage to crops
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Re: my dog is p****d off
stubbojo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21 2021 21:32 -theirs going to be a pigeon boom with hardly any getting shot ......the downside the farmers will lose out yet again .....
it makes sense to keep the numbers down .....wood pigeons can do a lot of damage to crops
Years back we had to main forms woodpigeon control
One was to go nest poking (no giggling at the back)! which involved walking the hedgerows in summer and poking the woodies nests off the limbs of the trees, it didn't matter if there were chicks or eggs, just shove the whole lot off the branch and onto the next.
The other was organsised roost shoots which were held on specific nights across the whole country after the game shooting season ended. If you were involved there were several advantages, cartridges were subsidised by apx 60% by the Min of Ag to local Rabbit Clearance Societies, the other you could be invited to shoot in the woods of the large estates where under normal curumstances it was forbidden even to enter.
Nest poking simply encouraged pigeons to breed all year round, subsidised cartridges ended when individuals were caught using them for clay shooting.
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Re: my dog is p****d off
Mike J wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 16:50 -It’s a bit like Cormorant control Mike, when my dad was younger if you shot a cormorant on the solway and snipped if it’s top beak then sent away to rivers authority u got money back, plenty salmon back then and not many cormorants now it’s reversed and the salmon are almost extinctstubbojo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21 2021 21:32 -theirs going to be a pigeon boom with hardly any getting shot ......the downside the farmers will lose out yet again .....
it makes sense to keep the numbers down .....wood pigeons can do a lot of damage to crops
Years back we had to main forms woodpigeon control
One was to go nest poking (no giggling at the back)! which involved walking the hedgerows in summer and poking the woodies nests off the limbs of the trees, it didn't matter if there were chicks or eggs, just shove the whole lot off the branch and onto the next.
The other was organsised roost shoots which were held on specific nights across the whole country after the game shooting season ended. If you were involved there were several advantages, cartridges were subsidised by apx 60% by the Min of Ag to local Rabbit Clearance Societies, the other you could be invited to shoot in the woods of the large estates where under normal curumstances it was forbidden even to enter.
Nest poking simply encouraged pigeons to breed all year round, subsidised cartridges ended when individuals were caught using them for clay shooting.
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Re: my dog is p****d off
piker al wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 20:44 -trouble is these do gooders..... dont do much good..... in the long term , its all finely balanced nature ok protect birds , but thats what happens they start eating all your salmon and other fish , just control the numbers like we always have ......you dont have to wipe a species out ......its called conservation .......but i get fed up trying to explain it to people who dont want to listen ....its called ignorance........Mike J wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 16:50 -It’s a bit like Cormorant control Mike, when my dad was younger if you shot a cormorant on the solway and snipped if it’s top beak then sent away to rivers authority u got money back, plenty salmon back then and not many cormorants now it’s reversed and the salmon are almost extinctstubbojo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21 2021 21:32 -theirs going to be a pigeon boom with hardly any getting shot ......the downside the farmers will lose out yet again .....
it makes sense to keep the numbers down .....wood pigeons can do a lot of damage to crops
Years back we had to main forms woodpigeon control
One was to go nest poking (no giggling at the back)! which involved walking the hedgerows in summer and poking the woodies nests off the limbs of the trees, it didn't matter if there were chicks or eggs, just shove the whole lot off the branch and onto the next.
The other was organsised roost shoots which were held on specific nights across the whole country after the game shooting season ended. If you were involved there were several advantages, cartridges were subsidised by apx 60% by the Min of Ag to local Rabbit Clearance Societies, the other you could be invited to shoot in the woods of the large estates where under normal curumstances it was forbidden even to enter.
Nest poking simply encouraged pigeons to breed all year round, subsidised cartridges ended when individuals were caught using them for clay shooting.
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Re: my dog is p****d off
stubbojo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06 2022 18:40 -The problem with all these bans, is once they are through and become law ... the do gooders are already plotting to ban the next thing, many of them have nothing better to do in life.piker al wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 20:44 -trouble is these do gooders..... dont do much good..... in the long term , its all finely balanced nature ok protect birds , but thats what happens they start eating all your salmon and other fish , just control the numbers like we always have ......you dont have to wipe a species out ......its called conservation .......but i get fed up trying to explain it to people who dont want to listen ....its called ignorance........Mike J wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 16:50 -It’s a bit like Cormorant control Mike, when my dad was younger if you shot a cormorant on the solway and snipped if it’s top beak then sent away to rivers authority u got money back, plenty salmon back then and not many cormorants now it’s reversed and the salmon are almost extinctstubbojo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21 2021 21:32 -theirs going to be a pigeon boom with hardly any getting shot ......the downside the farmers will lose out yet again .....
it makes sense to keep the numbers down .....wood pigeons can do a lot of damage to crops
Years back we had to main forms woodpigeon control
One was to go nest poking (no giggling at the back)! which involved walking the hedgerows in summer and poking the woodies nests off the limbs of the trees, it didn't matter if there were chicks or eggs, just shove the whole lot off the branch and onto the next.
The other was organsised roost shoots which were held on specific nights across the whole country after the game shooting season ended. If you were involved there were several advantages, cartridges were subsidised by apx 60% by the Min of Ag to local Rabbit Clearance Societies, the other you could be invited to shoot in the woods of the large estates where under normal curumstances it was forbidden even to enter.
Nest poking simply encouraged pigeons to breed all year round, subsidised cartridges ended when individuals were caught using them for clay shooting.
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Re: my dog is p****d off
Alex Fox wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07 2022 21:28 -how right you are alex , but they cant see the damage they are doing long term..... it all has a knock on effect ...which is not apparent straight away .......like the otter situation and seals entering the rivers , it all knock on effects ....stubbojo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06 2022 18:40 -The problem with all these bans, is once they are through and become law ... the do gooders are already plotting to ban the next thing, many of them have nothing better to do in life.piker al wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 20:44 -trouble is these do gooders..... dont do much good..... in the long term , its all finely balanced nature ok protect birds , but thats what happens they start eating all your salmon and other fish , just control the numbers like we always have ......you dont have to wipe a species out ......its called conservation .......but i get fed up trying to explain it to people who dont want to listen ....its called ignorance........Mike J wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 16:50 -It’s a bit like Cormorant control Mike, when my dad was younger if you shot a cormorant on the solway and snipped if it’s top beak then sent away to rivers authority u got money back, plenty salmon back then and not many cormorants now it’s reversed and the salmon are almost extinctstubbojo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21 2021 21:32 -theirs going to be a pigeon boom with hardly any getting shot ......the downside the farmers will lose out yet again .....
it makes sense to keep the numbers down .....wood pigeons can do a lot of damage to crops
Years back we had to main forms woodpigeon control
One was to go nest poking (no giggling at the back)! which involved walking the hedgerows in summer and poking the woodies nests off the limbs of the trees, it didn't matter if there were chicks or eggs, just shove the whole lot off the branch and onto the next.
The other was organsised roost shoots which were held on specific nights across the whole country after the game shooting season ended. If you were involved there were several advantages, cartridges were subsidised by apx 60% by the Min of Ag to local Rabbit Clearance Societies, the other you could be invited to shoot in the woods of the large estates where under normal curumstances it was forbidden even to enter.
Nest poking simply encouraged pigeons to breed all year round, subsidised cartridges ended when individuals were caught using them for clay shooting.
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Re: my dog is p****d off
Alex Fox wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07 2022 21:28 -Thou shall not kill anything flluffy or feathery.stubbojo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06 2022 18:40 -The problem with all these bans, is once they are through and become law ... the do gooders are already plotting to ban the next thing, many of them have nothing better to do in life.piker al wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 20:44 -trouble is these do gooders..... dont do much good..... in the long term , its all finely balanced nature ok protect birds , but thats what happens they start eating all your salmon and other fish , just control the numbers like we always have ......you dont have to wipe a species out ......its called conservation .......but i get fed up trying to explain it to people who dont want to listen ....its called ignorance........Mike J wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 16:50 -It’s a bit like Cormorant control Mike, when my dad was younger if you shot a cormorant on the solway and snipped if it’s top beak then sent away to rivers authority u got money back, plenty salmon back then and not many cormorants now it’s reversed and the salmon are almost extinctstubbojo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21 2021 21:32 -theirs going to be a pigeon boom with hardly any getting shot ......the downside the farmers will lose out yet again .....
it makes sense to keep the numbers down .....wood pigeons can do a lot of damage to crops
Years back we had to main forms woodpigeon control
One was to go nest poking (no giggling at the back)! which involved walking the hedgerows in summer and poking the woodies nests off the limbs of the trees, it didn't matter if there were chicks or eggs, just shove the whole lot off the branch and onto the next.
The other was organsised roost shoots which were held on specific nights across the whole country after the game shooting season ended. If you were involved there were several advantages, cartridges were subsidised by apx 60% by the Min of Ag to local Rabbit Clearance Societies, the other you could be invited to shoot in the woods of the large estates where under normal curumstances it was forbidden even to enter.
Nest poking simply encouraged pigeons to breed all year round, subsidised cartridges ended when individuals were caught using them for clay shooting.
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Re: my dog is p****d off
davelumb wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08 2022 09:54 -And one day it will be ... thou shall not yank anything fishy out of the water unless you are going to eat itAlex Fox wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07 2022 21:28 -Thou shall not kill anything flluffy or feathery.stubbojo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06 2022 18:40 -The problem with all these bans, is once they are through and become law ... the do gooders are already plotting to ban the next thing, many of them have nothing better to do in life.piker al wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 20:44 -trouble is these do gooders..... dont do much good..... in the long term , its all finely balanced nature ok protect birds , but thats what happens they start eating all your salmon and other fish , just control the numbers like we always have ......you dont have to wipe a species out ......its called conservation .......but i get fed up trying to explain it to people who dont want to listen ....its called ignorance........Mike J wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 16:50 -It’s a bit like Cormorant control Mike, when my dad was younger if you shot a cormorant on the solway and snipped if it’s top beak then sent away to rivers authority u got money back, plenty salmon back then and not many cormorants now it’s reversed and the salmon are almost extinctstubbojo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21 2021 21:32 -theirs going to be a pigeon boom with hardly any getting shot ......the downside the farmers will lose out yet again .....
it makes sense to keep the numbers down .....wood pigeons can do a lot of damage to crops
Years back we had to main forms woodpigeon control
One was to go nest poking (no giggling at the back)! which involved walking the hedgerows in summer and poking the woodies nests off the limbs of the trees, it didn't matter if there were chicks or eggs, just shove the whole lot off the branch and onto the next.
The other was organsised roost shoots which were held on specific nights across the whole country after the game shooting season ended. If you were involved there were several advantages, cartridges were subsidised by apx 60% by the Min of Ag to local Rabbit Clearance Societies, the other you could be invited to shoot in the woods of the large estates where under normal curumstances it was forbidden even to enter.
Nest poking simply encouraged pigeons to breed all year round, subsidised cartridges ended when individuals were caught using them for clay shooting.
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Re: my dog is p****d off
Alex Fox wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08 2022 15:08 -Not even to eat when all diets are plant based or lab grown.davelumb wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08 2022 09:54 -And one day it will be ... thou shall not yank anything fishy out of the water unless you are going to eat itAlex Fox wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07 2022 21:28 -Thou shall not kill anything flluffy or feathery.stubbojo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06 2022 18:40 -The problem with all these bans, is once they are through and become law ... the do gooders are already plotting to ban the next thing, many of them have nothing better to do in life.piker al wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 20:44 -trouble is these do gooders..... dont do much good..... in the long term , its all finely balanced nature ok protect birds , but thats what happens they start eating all your salmon and other fish , just control the numbers like we always have ......you dont have to wipe a species out ......its called conservation .......but i get fed up trying to explain it to people who dont want to listen ....its called ignorance........Mike J wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23 2021 16:50 -It’s a bit like Cormorant control Mike, when my dad was younger if you shot a cormorant on the solway and snipped if it’s top beak then sent away to rivers authority u got money back, plenty salmon back then and not many cormorants now it’s reversed and the salmon are almost extinctstubbojo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21 2021 21:32 -theirs going to be a pigeon boom with hardly any getting shot ......the downside the farmers will lose out yet again .....
it makes sense to keep the numbers down .....wood pigeons can do a lot of damage to crops
Years back we had to main forms woodpigeon control
One was to go nest poking (no giggling at the back)! which involved walking the hedgerows in summer and poking the woodies nests off the limbs of the trees, it didn't matter if there were chicks or eggs, just shove the whole lot off the branch and onto the next.
The other was organsised roost shoots which were held on specific nights across the whole country after the game shooting season ended. If you were involved there were several advantages, cartridges were subsidised by apx 60% by the Min of Ag to local Rabbit Clearance Societies, the other you could be invited to shoot in the woods of the large estates where under normal curumstances it was forbidden even to enter.
Nest poking simply encouraged pigeons to breed all year round, subsidised cartridges ended when individuals were caught using them for clay shooting.
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Re: my dog is p****d off
Can’t we just ban do gooders??? Or take them all shark fishing..