Float paints and lacquer

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Re: Float paints and lacquer

Postby Cyprio » Thu Nov 16 2017 00:05

After reading this thread going to give it a go at making my own over the next few weeks. Got my carbon rods and sheets paint and poly eggs.
Then today removed the motor from a microwave and made a rotary drier. (Bonus this MW had two motors so have a spare),
I used an old Dell monitor stand, added benefit is its adjustable up and down and the drier tilts.
The motor is mounted to wooden battens then faced with thin ply.
Taking the innards out of an adjustable roller catch (pic 1)I glued it to the motor spindle, this made a perfect
attachment for The piece of loft insulation I then bolted to it, so I can mount the floats securely. ( this has the added benefit, I can replace it when required).
Now going to attach a cardboard surround to collects the paint spray then ready for production. :grin:

CAUTION REF MOTORS
They are AC 240 volt motors. I ran mine with earth to housing. Positive and Neutral to motor connections.
DONT SPIN MOTOR BY HAND AND TOUCH WIRES IT WILL HURT
They can produce very high voltage instantly when turned by fingers! :afraid:

Looking forward to doing this. hopefully will only need the MK1 version.
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Re: Float paints and lacquer

Postby Mike J » Fri Nov 17 2017 12:18

Hi Cypro
Does your micro motor reverse itself or does it run one way only?

Ive used micro motors for rod drying and the only time mine have self-reversed is when Ive accidentally bumped them. :scratch:
Normally I reverse the direction by altering the rubber band drive belt.

My motors have never been a (live) problem. :shrug:

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Re: Float paints and lacquer

Postby Cyprio » Fri Nov 17 2017 12:46

Hi Mike

The motor won't self reverse unless you turn the power on and off the same as if it was in normal use in the microwave and you stop and restart the microwave oven. Needs a pause before turning back on.

Ref (live) problem:
These motors have a very efficient winding which makes them a very good voltage generator.
For their size!
Didn't say it had a problem just advised you don't rotate it by hand whilst holding the connections,
Put a volt meter on it and see for yourself.
Trust me you might as well put your fingers in a wall socket (please don't try that)
I did confirm it :pale: it's much much worse than putting your tongue on both terminals of a 9v battery :dizzy:

But good results so far with the epoxy glue (no sagging) so thanks for the idea :handshake:

Andy

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Re: Float paints and lacquer

Postby Bob Watson » Sat Nov 18 2017 17:27

Mike J wrote:
Easily the cheapest pike floats are those made from the stems of reed mace aka bull rushes.
I only use the stems with the seed heads, cut in the Autumn before the swans start eating them.
Just peel off the outer layer and leave everything including the seed heads on the bank.
Next I store them in my shed for a year before cutting into 6-8" lengths to lay them ontop of a radiator for a week.
Trim to size, smooth off and a single coat of warmed yacht varnish and thats it.
Prepped as above I have carried them throughout a season in my bag without any detriment to the buoyancy.

To use; attach them top and bottom using a couple of small 1" rubber bands doubled over, this enables quick changes and for it to be easily detached if the fish swims through a snag or weeds.
Reed stems are very buoyant, a 6" x 1/2" dia length will easily support a bait of 4/5" plus weights.
Best of all they are natural and blend in with the surroundings so cannot alarm fish or attract the attention of nosey anglers to how your fishing. If I paint them at all I use yellow touch up with a black felt tip cap.

Cheapest Drifter Stems
I use aluminium knitting needles, they weigh nothing, are nigh on indestructible and can be picked up in bundles for a few pence in charity shops.

For trotting floats
I use cormorant quills :wink: utterly waterproof and can be bent always without damage, bodies from blue insulation foam reinforced with yacht varnish, tips painted with girlie nail lacquer, dont paint the body - the skys blue!!

For a rotary dryer
Just salvage the table motor from a redundant microwave, they always work, just remember to leave the spade-end connectors on the wires.

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Just a bit of a nit pick Mike,

Reed Mace and Bull Rush are two different plants :pipe:

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Re: Float paints and lacquer

Postby Wat Tyler » Sun Dec 03 2017 09:01

Duncan Holmes wrote:
Mike J wrote:
For a rotary dryer
Just salvage the table motor from a redundant microwave, they always work, just remember to leave the spade-end connectors on the wires.

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That's interesting Mike, could you post a picture of how you have rigged it up. :thumbs:
If you're looking for a cheap drier Duncan check out 'disco ball' motors on E-bay. Mine runs at 1rpm which is about perfect for Envirotex etc.

This is the type I have: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HANGING- ... xy3zNSpnOq
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Re: Float paints and lacquer

Postby SheffSean » Fri Dec 08 2017 00:02

I was going to use one half of a kinder 'egg' to add a top on cork, but they've change the design into something unusable. :cry


Check out eBay, I've just bought some plastic eggs to refurb my drop arms, if you want, I'll let you know what they're like when they arrive, just type in "plastic Easter eggs" in the search bar, HTH.

Sean.

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Re: Float paints and lacquer

Postby Nige Johns » Fri Dec 08 2017 09:10

SheffSean wrote:
I was going to use one half of a kinder 'egg' to add a top on cork, but they've change the design into something unusable. :cry


Check out eBay, I've just bought some plastic eggs to refurb my drop arms, if you want, I'll let you know what they're like when they arrive, just type in "plastic Easter eggs" in the search bar, HTH.

Sean.
Good shout Sean,they look the business,could even fill them with expanding foam to add a little weight and help glue things into them :thumbs:


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