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Re: Tools explained.

Post by Kev Berry » Sun Apr 21 2019 10:47

zodiac wrote:
In my experience- which is working with wood and screws most days for 25 years- virtually none of that is true. Slot headed screws feck up first. They're difficult to use, especially with power tools. A good quality pozi driver bit and decent quality screws will last for 10s of thousands of screws if used correctly. Hold the drill level and apply even pressure and it should never shear.
I've never ever met a tradesman who uses slotted screws by choice.
you need to do a bit of history checking to see just how much it is true

Slot headed screws are not made for power tool use

good quality pozi drives last for 10's of thousands of screws!!!!! now that isn't true, and I bet just about everyone on here will have a handful of fecked pzi drive bits

this has gone off slant----my original comment was the trouble with slotted screws is people not using the right size SCREWDRIVER---do you agree with that?

like I said pozi screws are more convenient to use especially with power tools---that's why tradesmen no longer use slotted for most of their work

Do you know why are bog screws slotted and not pozi?

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Re: Tools explained.

Post by zodiac » Sun Apr 21 2019 11:28

Kev Berry wrote:
zodiac wrote:
In my experience- which is working with wood and screws most days for 25 years- virtually none of that is true. Slot headed screws feck up first. They're difficult to use, especially with power tools. A good quality pozi driver bit and decent quality screws will last for 10s of thousands of screws if used correctly. Hold the drill level and apply even pressure and it should never shear.
I've never ever met a tradesman who uses slotted screws by choice.
you need to do a bit of history checking to see just how much it is true

Slot headed screws are not made for power tool use

good quality pozi drives last for 10's of thousands of screws!!!!! now that isn't true, and I bet just about everyone on here will have a handful of fecked pzi drive bits

this has gone off slant----my original comment was the trouble with slotted screws is people not using the right size SCREWDRIVER---do you agree with that?

like I said pozi screws are more convenient to use especially with power tools---that's why tradesmen no longer use slotted for most of their work

Do you know why are bog screws slotted and not pozi?

I've broken a bog pan when over tightening with pozi screws so yes!
Kev, I know you like a debate but I'm not spending my holiday weekend discussing the relative merits of various fasteners and fixings. Feel free to carry on without me! :hammer:
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Re: Tools explained.

Post by Kev Berry » Sun Apr 21 2019 14:41

zodiac wrote:
Kev Berry wrote:
zodiac wrote:
In my experience- which is working with wood and screws most days for 25 years- virtually none of that is true. Slot headed screws feck up first. They're difficult to use, especially with power tools. A good quality pozi driver bit and decent quality screws will last for 10s of thousands of screws if used correctly. Hold the drill level and apply even pressure and it should never shear.
I've never ever met a tradesman who uses slotted screws by choice.
you need to do a bit of history checking to see just how much it is true

Slot headed screws are not made for power tool use

good quality pozi drives last for 10's of thousands of screws!!!!! now that isn't true, and I bet just about everyone on here will have a handful of fecked pzi drive bits

this has gone off slant----my original comment was the trouble with slotted screws is people not using the right size SCREWDRIVER---do you agree with that?

like I said pozi screws are more convenient to use especially with power tools---that's why tradesmen no longer use slotted for most of their work

Do you know why are bog screws slotted and not pozi?

I've broken a bog pan when over tightening with pozi screws so yes!
Kev, I know you like a debate but I'm not spending my holiday weekend discussing the relative merits of various fasteners and fixings. Feel free to carry on without me! :hammer:
They slotted because proper bog screws are made of brass (dont rust and ya gonna round off with pozi in brass
Power driver for bog screws? That's another reason why they slotted...so you have to use a screwdriver.

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Re: Tools explained.

Post by Andrew Croft » Sun Apr 21 2019 14:49

plenty of times if stripped the heed off old philips type screw that wouldnt budge. f****n pain in the a**e.

dremel to the rescue cutting a slot in the heed and usin a flat heeded screwdriver/bit. quicker than drillin the b*****d out. I love a slot...
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Re: Tools explained.

Post by Happy Hayes » Sun Apr 21 2019 18:56

Andrew, am I mistaken
Are you actually agreeing with Kev
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Re: Tools explained.

Post by Kev Berry » Sun Apr 21 2019 19:38

Happy Hayes wrote:
Andrew, am I mistaken
Are you actually agreeing with Kev
Regards
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he would rather stick pins in his eyes than admit that Tom :wink:

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Re: Tools explained.

Post by Andrew Croft » Sun Apr 21 2019 20:18

Happy Hayes wrote:
Andrew, am I mistaken
Are you actually agreeing with Kev
Regards
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Dunno.
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