Making a centerpin reel

[Reefhawg]

For no good reason I've been thinking of making a centrepin reel. I remember references in old articles to people making them and wondered if anyone new of any plans that are available? I'll probably come up with my own design for a pike centrepin but it would be interesting to see what other have done.

[Bucks Andy]

Not really a centre pin as it doesn’t have a centre pin. But looks like a centre pin.
I do have another home made one made out of carbon. I’ll try to find it.

[Stewlaws]

Not really a centre pin as it doesn’t have a centre pin. But looks like a centre pin.
I do have another home made one made out of carbon. I’ll try to find it.

Needle roller bearings?

[Bucks Andy]

Not really a centre pin as it doesn’t have a centre pin. But looks like a centre pin.
I do have another home made one made out of carbon. I’ll try to find it.

Needle roller bearings?

No. Guess again.

[Stewlaws]

Not really a centre pin as it doesn’t have a centre pin. But looks like a centre pin.
I do have another home made one made out of carbon. I’ll try to find it.

Needle roller bearings?

No. Guess again.

2 opposing thrust needles on the outer face?

[Bucks Andy]

Not really a centre pin as it doesn’t have a centre pin. But looks like a centre pin.
I do have another home made one made out of carbon. I’ll try to find it.

Needle roller bearings?

No. Guess again.

2 opposing thrust needles on the outer face?

Getting colder.

[Old Mate]

Centreless sidecast...

[Dean0]

Unlikely but maybe some kind of low friction bushing like an engine crankshaft ????
or two ball races with tiny ball bearings?
if it spins ok its very cool.

[Old Mate]

Ball bearings running in circular (obviously) channels - not sure of the engineering term.

[Bucks Andy]

Ball bearings running in circular (obviously) channels - not sure of the engineering term.

No. Still cold.

[Cyprio]

Well if their not Cylindrical Roller Bearings,

I guess as you have made them Andy,
And I do remember the carbon ones from before
(But I couldn’t find the pic)

Only you would attempt Fluid Bearings

(And get away with it face)

[Bucks Andy]

Well if their not Cylindrical Roller Bearings,

I guess as you have made them Andy,
And I do remember the carbon ones from before
(But I couldn’t find the pic)

Only you would attempt Fluid Bearings

(And get away with it face)

I have another one that is half finished. I’ll photograph it tomorrow to put you out of your misery.

[Old Mate]

Several radial ball bearings for the spool to run on...

[Bucks Andy]

8 x 8mm bearings.

[Old Mate]

Very nice! What stops the spool slippimg off? Would flanged bearings work? Or a ledge on the spool?

Sorry, thinking out loud - excellent work.

[Bucks Andy]

Very nice! What stops the spool slippimg off? Would flanged bearings work? Or a ledge on the spool?

Sorry, thinking out loud - excellent work.

There is a counter bore on the front of the spool and a ring bolts to the main body stopping the spool falling off.

[Cyprio]

Very good.

[Stewlaws]

Was this made against a set of plans or off the hoof? Interesting design, wondering why the bearings sit at 180d as opposed to 90d for balancing and equilibrium ? Nice work, how long will it 'bat' for when spun?

[Stewlaws]

Is there a reason why you never used Needle bearings .. which on the face of it would appear a more fluid option?

[Bucks Andy]

Was this made against a set of plans or off the hoof? Interesting design, wondering why the bearings sit at 180d as opposed to 90d for balancing and equilibrium ? Nice work, how long will it 'bat' for when spun?

It was made up as I went along. There are 4 bearings at the top of the spool and 4 at the bottom all at 90 degrees.
It spins ok. Not as good as a reel with a pin in the middle but would pull a drifter vane out ok.
Be ok for barbel I would think.

[Bucks Andy]

Is there a reason why you never used Needle bearings .. which on the face of it would appear a more fluid option?

Had a play with needle bearings didn’t spin as good as the finished one.
Also made a ball race that housed around 30 ball bearings.
That worked ok. But when you took the spool off all the bearings fell out.

[Stewlaws]

Was this made against a set of plans or off the hoof? Interesting design, wondering why the bearings sit at 180d as opposed to 90d for balancing and equilibrium ? Nice work, how long will it 'bat' for when spun?

It was made up as I went along. There are 4 bearings at the top of the spool and 4 at the bottom all at 90 degrees.
It spins ok. Not as good as a reel with a pin in the middle but would pull a drifter vane out ok.
Be ok for barbel I would think.

Nicely done Andy, was this a garden shed build with a small lathe or do you have access to work related shop? I admire anyone who can manufacture, Alun MilLyard is a guy who can work magic on a lathe.

[Stewlaws]

Is there a reason why you never used Needle bearings .. which on the face of it would appear a more fluid option?

Had a play with needle bearings didn’t spin as good as the finished one.
Also made a ball race that housed around 30 ball bearings.
That worked ok. But when you took the spool off all the bearings fell out.

IIRC the Cortesi pin was needle, budget reel but worked OK, have you pictures on the carbon one?

[Bucks Andy]

Was this made against a set of plans or off the hoof? Interesting design, wondering why the bearings sit at 180d as opposed to 90d for balancing and equilibrium ? Nice work, how long will it 'bat' for when spun?

It was made up as I went along. There are 4 bearings at the top of the spool and 4 at the bottom all at 90 degrees.
It spins ok. Not as good as a reel with a pin in the middle but would pull a drifter vane out ok.
Be ok for barbel I would think.

Nicely done Andy, was this a garden shed build with a small lathe or do you have access to work related shop? I admire anyone who can manufacture, Alun MilLyard is a guy who can work magic on a lathe.

It was turned on a 35 year old myford lathe and drilled on an equally old Bridgeport mill.
I’ll have a look for the carbon one.

[Bucks Andy]

Found it.

[Sam]

Was this made against a set of plans or off the hoof? Interesting design, wondering why the bearings sit at 180d as opposed to 90d for balancing and equilibrium ? Nice work, how long will it 'bat' for when spun?

It was made up as I went along. There are 4 bearings at the top of the spool and 4 at the bottom all at 90 degrees.
It spins ok. Not as good as a reel with a pin in the middle but would pull a drifter vane out ok.
Be ok for barbel I would think.

Nicely done Andy, was this a garden shed build with a small lathe or do you have access to work related shop? I admire anyone who can manufacture, Alun MilLyard is a guy who can work magic on a lathe.

It was turned on a 35 year old myford lathe and drilled on an equally old Bridgeport mill.
I’ll have a look for the carbon one.

Both of those machines are well built and will last another 35 years. If you bought a brand new XYZ mill these days, it's the exact same frame as an old Bridgeport. Quality always lasts.

I learned to turn using old Hardinge lathes. Another solid machine.

[Stewlaws]

Found it.

Were these turned down then Andy? I was always in the mind that Carbon fibre was constructed in moulds/vacuums and ovens? (Neighbour's son does bespoke bike wheels for race teams-Motorcycles)

[Bucks Andy]

Found it.

Were these turned down then Andy? I was always in the mind that Carbon fibre was constructed in moulds/vacuums and ovens? (Neighbour's son does bespoke bike wheels for race teams-Motorcycles)

They were cut out of 6mm plate.