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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mike J » Fri Jan 29 2021 17:33

Hi Matt,
I dont have a greenhouse so all mine are grown in the garden, seeing them trimmed into mini bushes and kept through the winter encouraged me to have a go dispite being told by my neighbour they wouldn't survive.
Here is a second winter plant that is still producing flowers and fruit while inside on my windowsill.
IMG_2305.JPG

This is the same variety (I think) that is producing side stems and a flower bud to hopefully form a bush, its a bit ragged because in the autunm I stood it next to fence that had white mould and the mould attacked the plant and Ive had to prune off several twigs.
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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mattjb » Fri Jan 29 2021 17:54

Mike J wrote:
Hi Matt,
I dont have a greenhouse so all mine are grown in the garden, seeing them trimmed into mini bushes and kept through the winter encouraged me to have a go dispite being told by my neighbour they wouldn't survive.
Here is a second winter plant that is still producing flowers and fruit while inside on my windowsill.
IMG_2305.JPG


This is the same variety (I think) that is producing side stems and a flower bud to hopefully form a bush, its a bit ragged because in the autunm I stood it next to fence that had white mould and the mould attcked the plant and Ive had to prune off several twigs.
Nice one,I'd heard plants can be kept going through the winter but I've never tried it myself.I might have a go with the indoor variety ones I bought this time.I bought my seeds from South Devon chillie farm online,first time I've used them,plenty of varieties to choose from at decent prices and quick service if you are looking for seeds.

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mike J » Sat Jan 30 2021 10:31

Mattjb wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Hi Matt,
I dont have a greenhouse so all mine are grown in the garden, seeing them trimmed into mini bushes and kept through the winter encouraged me to have a go dispite being told by my neighbour they wouldn't survive.
Here is a second winter plant that is still producing flowers and fruit while inside on my windowsill.
IMG_2305.JPG


This is the same variety (I think) that is producing side stems and a flower bud to hopefully form a bush, its a bit ragged because in the autunm I stood it next to fence that had white mould and the mould attcked the plant and Ive had to prune off several twigs.
Nice one,I'd heard plants can be kept going through the winter but I've never tried it myself.I might have a go with the indoor variety ones I bought this time.I bought my seeds from South Devon chillie farm online,first time I've used them,plenty of varieties to choose from at decent prices and quick service if you are looking for seeds.
Apart from those pictured above Ive also got 7 other plants overwintering indoors which have now began growing again after just a couple of months of domancy
I cannot name the varieties as I just grow from seeds collected from the chillies I like, but the one with fruits on is probably the Biquinho Ive seen kept as bush plants.
PM if your interested in seeds.

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mattjb » Sat Jan 30 2021 11:37

Mike J wrote:
Mattjb wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Hi Matt,
I dont have a greenhouse so all mine are grown in the garden, seeing them trimmed into mini bushes and kept through the winter encouraged me to have a go dispite being told by my neighbour they wouldn't survive.
Here is a second winter plant that is still producing flowers and fruit while inside on my windowsill.
IMG_2305.JPG


This is the same variety (I think) that is producing side stems and a flower bud to hopefully form a bush, its a bit ragged because in the autunm I stood it next to fence that had white mould and the mould attcked the plant and Ive had to prune off several twigs.
Nice one,I'd heard plants can be kept going through the winter but I've never tried it myself.I might have a go with the indoor variety ones I bought this time.I bought my seeds from South Devon chillie farm online,first time I've used them,plenty of varieties to choose from at decent prices and quick service if you are looking for seeds.
Apart from those pictured above Ive also got 7 other plants overwintering indoors which have now began growing again after just a couple of months of domancy
I cannot name the varieties as I just grow from seeds collected from the chillies I like, but the one with fruits on is probably the Biquinho Ive seen kept as bush plants.
PM if your interested in seeds.

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Thanks Mike,I've got enough seeds to keep me going for a while ,which reminds me I need to get my a**e in gear and think about starting them off on the windowsill.From what I've read the hottest varieties need starting off as early as possible to get the best out of them.

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mike J » Sat Jan 30 2021 11:53

Mattjb wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Mattjb wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Hi Matt,
I dont have a greenhouse so all mine are grown in the garden, seeing them trimmed into mini bushes and kept through the winter encouraged me to have a go dispite being told by my neighbour they wouldn't survive.
Here is a second winter plant that is still producing flowers and fruit while inside on my windowsill.
IMG_2305.JPG


This is the same variety (I think) that is producing side stems and a flower bud to hopefully form a bush, its a bit ragged because in the autunm I stood it next to fence that had white mould and the mould attcked the plant and Ive had to prune off several twigs.
Nice one,I'd heard plants can be kept going through the winter but I've never tried it myself.I might have a go with the indoor variety ones I bought this time.I bought my seeds from South Devon chillie farm online,first time I've used them,plenty of varieties to choose from at decent prices and quick service if you are looking for seeds.
Apart from those pictured above Ive also got 7 other plants overwintering indoors which have now began growing again after just a couple of months of domancy
I cannot name the varieties as I just grow from seeds collected from the chillies I like, but the one with fruits on is probably the Biquinho Ive seen kept as bush plants.
PM if your interested in seeds.

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Thanks Mike,I've got enough seeds to keep me going for a while ,which reminds me I need to get my a**e in gear and think about starting them off on the windowsill.From what I've read the hottest varieties need starting off as early as possible to get the best out of them.
Why not try monthly plantings and test the theory?
I like heat and flavour, I have some dried chillies that have been in a jar for 11years, when the lid is lifted the flavour (vapour) is amazing but then the heat kicks in, eyes water, throat tightens and I have to turn away!! Must try and grow a few.

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mattjb » Sun Sep 05 2021 15:21

Picked the first lot of ripe chillies from the greenhouse today and made a start on the sauce.will be adding to it over the next few weeks as more ripen.Need plenty of sun! Used scotch bonnet,ring of fire and razzmatazz chillie varieties.
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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mike J » Mon Sep 06 2021 08:53

Very nice.
Do you grow from your own seed?
Ive tried to get bonnets growing outside with my others but they have all failed.

Coincidently I also picked yesterday, just 21 bullets and a big fattie.
For whatever reason mine are not doing so well this year???
Ive a dozen or so seeds at the 3" stage so I should be okay if the mother plants die off.


The St Kitts Jutt sauce recipe is still brilliant btw.

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mattjb » Mon Sep 06 2021 14:50

Mike J wrote:
Very nice.
Do you grow from your own seed?
Ive tried to get bonnets growing outside with my others but they have all failed.

Coincidently I also picked yesterday, just 21 bullets and a big fattie.
For whatever reason mine are not doing so well this year???
Ive a dozen or so seeds at the 3" stage so I should be okay if the mother plants die off.


The St Kitts Jutt sauce recipe is still brilliant btw.

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Bought my seeds from south Devon chillie farm online but I will probably dry some seeds from a few of this years and try them alongside the packet ones next year.
The ring of fire long ones seemed to get off to the quickest start and have done well so far. Habaneros I tried haven’t done well,plants are weaker looking even though all varieties I planted at same time using same compost.
The razzmatazz ones I think are similar to the bullets,high yield and the chillies face upwards if you know what I mean.
I think the bonnets needs the heat of a greenhouse to do well,they seem to need more heat to ripen than the others.The weeks of cloudy days this summer probably hasn’t helped.

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mike J » Tue Sep 07 2021 08:51

Mattjb wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Very nice.
Do you grow from your own seed?
Ive tried to get bonnets growing outside with my others but they have all failed.

Coincidently I also picked yesterday, just 21 bullets and a big fattie.
For whatever reason mine are not doing so well this year???
Ive a dozen or so seeds at the 3" stage so I should be okay if the mother plants die off.


The St Kitts Jutt sauce recipe is still brilliant btw.

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Bought my seeds from south Devon chillie farm online but I will probably dry some seeds from a few of this years and try them alongside the packet ones next year.
The ring of fire long ones seemed to get off to the quickest start and have done well so far. Habaneros I tried haven’t done well,plants are weaker looking even though all varieties I planted at same time using same compost.
The razzmatazz ones I think are similar to the bullets,high yield and the chillies face upwards if you know what I mean.
I think the bonnets needs the heat of a greenhouse to do well,they seem to need more heat to ripen than the others.The weeks of cloudy days this summer probably hasn’t helped.

Thanks for that.
I planted seeds saved from last seasons crop using John Innes #1 and they never really got going.
Next planting was some fresh seeds from my first picking again in JI1 then a single pot using topsoil from the flower border, yes you've guessed it, the basic soil got the seeds going quicker!
As you say its the damned weather we've had this year, but mine have grown well since the sun has been shinning, now I just want them to get big enough to go through the winter on the window sill.

My first pot of paste mixed with nothing but cheap sherry is keeping superbly. With this years picking Im going to use rum, £11 from Sains. if you like rum it isnt bad for a quiet nip.

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mattjb » Tue Sep 07 2021 21:38

Mike J wrote:
Mattjb wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Very nice.
Do you grow from your own seed?
Ive tried to get bonnets growing outside with my others but they have all failed.

Coincidently I also picked yesterday, just 21 bullets and a big fattie.
For whatever reason mine are not doing so well this year???
Ive a dozen or so seeds at the 3" stage so I should be okay if the mother plants die off.


The St Kitts Jutt sauce recipe is still brilliant btw.

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Bought my seeds from south Devon chillie farm online but I will probably dry some seeds from a few of this years and try them alongside the packet ones next year.
The ring of fire long ones seemed to get off to the quickest start and have done well so far. Habaneros I tried haven’t done well,plants are weaker looking even though all varieties I planted at same time using same compost.
The razzmatazz ones I think are similar to the bullets,high yield and the chillies face upwards if you know what I mean.
I think the bonnets needs the heat of a greenhouse to do well,they seem to need more heat to ripen than the others.The weeks of cloudy days this summer probably hasn’t helped.

Thanks for that.
I planted seeds saved from last seasons crop using John Innes #1 and they never really got going.
Next planting was some fresh seeds from my first picking again in JI1 then a single pot using topsoil from the flower border, yes you've guessed it, the basic soil got the seeds going quicker!
As you say its the damned weather we've had this year, but mine have grown well since the sun has been shinning, now I just want them to get big enough to go through the winter on the window sill.

My first pot of paste mixed with nothing but cheap sherry is keeping superbly. With this years picking Im going to use rum, £11 from Sains. if you like rum it isnt bad for a quiet nip.

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How big a pot do you grow yours in? I start mine off in little ones and then plant them in fairly big,deep pots as soon as they are able to be replanted.I use the pots that they have the cut flowers in at supermarkets,my bro in law got them for me. I don’t know if it’s the depth of the pot that helps?
Compost wise I fill it about half full with compost from our heap of kitchen,chicken coop,guinea pig waste then top up with cheap b and q compost.
The heat of the last couple of days is ripening them fast but the long ring of fire ones seem to ripen much faster than the scotch bonnets and the razzmatazz chillies. Maybe it’s to do with the shape?
I’m using Sainsbury’s Sherry for mine this year and will see how it goes.

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mattjb » Tue Sep 07 2021 21:40

Mike J wrote:
Very nice.
Do you grow from your own seed?
Ive tried to get bonnets growing outside with my others but they have all failed.

Coincidently I also picked yesterday, just 21 bullets and a big fattie.
For whatever reason mine are not doing so well this year???
Ive a dozen or so seeds at the 3" stage so I should be okay if the mother plants die off.


The St Kitts Jutt sauce recipe is still brilliant btw.

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Are the ones you are picking from the ones you overwintered ? Maybe they aren’t as good the second year if you are?

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mike J » Wed Sep 08 2021 05:10

Mattjb wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Very nice.
Do you grow from your own seed?
Ive tried to get bonnets growing outside with my others but they have all failed.

Coincidently I also picked yesterday, just 21 bullets and a big fattie.
For whatever reason mine are not doing so well this year???
Ive a dozen or so seeds at the 3" stage so I should be okay if the mother plants die off.


The St Kitts Jutt sauce recipe is still brilliant btw.

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Are the ones you are picking from the ones you overwintered ? Maybe they aren’t as good the second year if you are?
Yes the chillies Im presently picking are from the three plants I overwintered. I repoted them in the same 6" pots but changed apx 60% of the soil for new.
What I did do, which I now think was a mistake was trim them when the new growth took off in the spring. What Im trying to recreate is the small tight football sized plants Ive seen in Iberia.
The plant I trimmed twice hasn't produced many fruits, the plant trimmed once has produced around 25 so far. The big plant that grew to 2ft+ in its first year but I trimmed that down to make ot easier to manage indoors has only produced 3 so far but they were really big and hot.
The new seedlings have grown 2"+ over the past three days after being left in full sun (46C was our top temp yest).
Clearly a greenhouse is the way to go but I will persist without for another season or two.

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mattjb » Wed Sep 08 2021 18:03

Mike J wrote:
Mattjb wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Very nice.
Do you grow from your own seed?
Ive tried to get bonnets growing outside with my others but they have all failed.

Coincidently I also picked yesterday, just 21 bullets and a big fattie.
For whatever reason mine are not doing so well this year???
Ive a dozen or so seeds at the 3" stage so I should be okay if the mother plants die off.


The St Kitts Jutt sauce recipe is still brilliant btw.

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Are the ones you are picking from the ones you overwintered ? Maybe they aren’t as good the second year if you are?
Yes the chillies Im presently picking are from the three plants I overwintered. I repoted them in the same 6" pots but changed apx 60% of the soil for new.
What I did do, which I now think was a mistake was trim them when the new growth took off in the spring. What Im trying to recreate is the small tight football sized plants Ive seen in Iberia.
The plant I trimmed twice hasn't produced many fruits, the plant trimmed once has produced around 25 so far. The big plant that grew to 2ft+ in its first year but I trimmed that down to make ot easier to manage indoors has only produced 3 so far but they were really big and hot.
The new seedlings have grown 2"+ over the past three days after being left in full sun (46C was our top temp yest).
Clearly a greenhouse is the way to go but I will persist without for another season or two.

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Maybe the Iberian ones are a different variety? The razzmatazz variety I’ve got growing are a more compact plant and suitable for indoors apparently. I’ll take a couple of pics later when I go up to do the watering

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Post by Mattjb » Wed Sep 08 2021 19:05

Razzmatazz variety is circled in blue. The scotch bonnets and ring of fire in front and behind were planted same time and in same size pots and compost.
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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mike J » Thu Sep 09 2021 09:54

That could very well be the species.
My problem is Ive only ever been told the local name which is Biquinho, which means small beak, which is what your razz fruits look like.

The Iberian Biquinhos are used to produce Piri Piri sauce which is damned hot IMO, how hot are yours? Could you bite one in half and chew it for instance?

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mattjb » Thu Sep 09 2021 15:31

Mike J wrote:
That could very well be the species.
My problem is Ive only ever been told the local name which is Biquinho, which means small beak, which is what your razz fruits look like.

The Iberian Biquinhos are used to produce Piri Piri sauce which is damned hot IMO, how hot are yours? Could you bite one in half and chew it for instance?
They are listed as medium hot,maybe if any are ripe enough I’ll do the bite and chew test later and report back!
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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mattjb » Fri Sep 10 2021 19:14

Mike J wrote:
That could very well be the species.
My problem is Ive only ever been told the local name which is Biquinho, which means small beak, which is what your razz fruits look like.

The Iberian Biquinhos are used to produce Piri Piri sauce which is damned hot IMO, how hot are yours? Could you bite one in half and chew it for instance?

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I did the bite one in half and chew test on one that was not quite fully ripe, more of an orangey red than proper red. First half I thought this is pretty hot but not too bad so ate the other half with the seeds in. That was pretty hot, certainly hit the back of the throat! If you want some seeds to try pm your address Mike and I’ll dry some and pop them in an envelope next time I pick a batch.

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mike J » Sat Sep 11 2021 08:22

Mattjb wrote:
Mike J wrote:
That could very well be the species.
My problem is Ive only ever been told the local name which is Biquinho, which means small beak, which is what your razz fruits look like.

The Iberian Biquinhos are used to produce Piri Piri sauce which is damned hot IMO, how hot are yours? Could you bite one in half and chew it for instance?

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I did the bite one in half and chew test on one that was not quite fully ripe, more of an orangey red than proper red. First half I thought this is pretty hot but not too bad so ate the other half with the seeds in. That was pretty hot, certainly hit the back of the throat! If you want some seeds to try pm your address Mike and I’ll dry some and pop them in an envelope next time I pick a batch.

Thanks for the offer Matt :handshake:
I may take you up on it if I cannot source a plant from down South.

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Re: Chillie paste.

Post by Mattjb » Sat Sep 11 2021 19:22

Mike J wrote:
Mattjb wrote:
Mike J wrote:
That could very well be the species.
My problem is Ive only ever been told the local name which is Biquinho, which means small beak, which is what your razz fruits look like.

The Iberian Biquinhos are used to produce Piri Piri sauce which is damned hot IMO, how hot are yours? Could you bite one in half and chew it for instance?

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I did the bite one in half and chew test on one that was not quite fully ripe, more of an orangey red than proper red. First half I thought this is pretty hot but not too bad so ate the other half with the seeds in. That was pretty hot, certainly hit the back of the throat! If you want some seeds to try pm your address Mike and I’ll dry some and pop them in an envelope next time I pick a batch.

Thanks for the offer Matt :handshake:
I may take you up on it if I cannot source a plant from down South.



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No problem Mike,happy to send some,just let me know whenever 👍

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