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In my local rag, funnily enough echo a conversation from yesterday

https://www.edp24.co.uk/features/why-wo ... -1-6447878
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I'm doubt an 'ethical vegan' would.
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Gregg's sausage-rolls have been vegan for years - there's f**be-all meat in them.
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jonsykes wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 17:07 -
Gregg's sausage-rolls have been vegan for years - there's f**be-all meat in them.
Just about the best high street sausage rolls for my money. Love em!

A local bakery does vegan ones. I tried one out of curiosity and it wasn't that bad tbh. A bit heavy on the herbs but if there's no meat I guess you need some flavour from some where.
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Why would KFC or Greg's want to support Vegans?

Turning the OP's title statement on its head makes a lot of sense to me
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Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 14:32 -
jonsykes wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 17:07 -
Gregg's sausage-rolls have been vegan for years - there's f**be-all meat in them.
Just about the best high street sausage rolls for my money. Love em!

A local bakery does vegan ones. I tried one out of curiosity and it wasn't that bad tbh. A bit heavy on the herbs but if there's no meat I guess you need some flavour from some where.
I can eat the Gregg's one easy enough, they taste nice - but they are very greasy & I suspect there is minimal meat in them. The filling is just pink coloured sausage rusk & lard with flavourings added (plenty pepper). Like I say, I could wat em all day.
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jonsykes wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:18 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 14:32 -
jonsykes wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 17:07 -
Gregg's sausage-rolls have been vegan for years - there's f**be-all meat in them.
Just about the best high street sausage rolls for my money. Love em!

A local bakery does vegan ones. I tried one out of curiosity and it wasn't that bad tbh. A bit heavy on the herbs but if there's no meat I guess you need some flavour from some where.
I can eat the Gregg's one easy enough, they taste nice - but they are very greasy & I suspect there is minimal meat in them. The filling is just pink coloured sausage rusk & lard with flavourings added (plenty pepper). Like I say, I could wat em all day.
The pink meat thing is my guiding light. I wont buy those really pink things as they are putrid with no texture. I dont know if they differ but the ones in my locality from Gregg's are a much greyer colour than the really cheap ones.

As for meat content: I've made my own with top quality meat and they dont taste as good as the bog standard 'eyes, ears and arrisoles' numbers.

Sausage rolls arent about the meat quality or percentage. Even the best butcher's bangers are usually made from the otherwise unused parts of the animal. I think that's the job of a sausage. I.e to make use of less popular animal parts.
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davelumb wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 16:35 -
I'm doubt an 'ethical vegan' would.
Makes you wonder where ethical Vegans do their weekly shop Dave
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Steve C wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 16:28 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 16:35 -
I'm doubt an 'ethical vegan' would.
Makes you wonder where ethical Vegans do their weekly shop Dave
Cloud cuckoo land.

That one who got ethical veganism recognised as a philosophical belief the other day tries not to take buses in case the bus accidentally kills a fly. :dizzy:
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davelumb wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 17:30 -
Steve C wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 16:28 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 16:35 -
I'm doubt an 'ethical vegan' would.
Makes you wonder where ethical Vegans do their weekly shop Dave
Cloud cuckoo land.

That one who got ethical veganism recognised as a philosophical belief the other day tries not to take buses in case the bus accidentally kills a fly. :dizzy:
That's cycles off the vegan agenda as well then, judging by the number I eat going out on a summer evening ride.... there's not a lot of meat on them either.
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Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:33 -
jonsykes wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:18 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 14:32 -
jonsykes wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 17:07 -
Gregg's sausage-rolls have been vegan for years - there's f**be-all meat in them.
Just about the best high street sausage rolls for my money. Love em!

A local bakery does vegan ones. I tried one out of curiosity and it wasn't that bad tbh. A bit heavy on the herbs but if there's no meat I guess you need some flavour from some where.
I can eat the Gregg's one easy enough, they taste nice - but they are very greasy & I suspect there is minimal meat in them. The filling is just pink coloured sausage rusk & lard with flavourings added (plenty pepper). Like I say, I could wat em all day.
The pink meat thing is my guiding light. I wont buy those really pink things as they are putrid with no texture. I dont know if they differ but the ones in my locality from Gregg's are a much greyer colour than the really cheap ones.

As for meat content: I've made my own with top quality meat and they dont taste as good as the bog standard 'eyes, ears and arrisoles' numbers.

Sausage rolls arent about the meat quality or percentage. Even the best butcher's bangers are usually made from the otherwise unused parts of the animal. I think that's the job of a sausage. I.e to make use of less popular animal parts.
I was in my butchers a while back and he was filling a big stainless bucket with stuff off the display slab. I asked him what he was doing with it, said it was to make sausage meat for the sausage rolls
Nothing in that bucket I wouldn't have eaten on a plate. Pork, beef, chicken and liver.
Their sausage rolls are to die for--in fact they are addictive .
No pencil sized pink streak of meat in these babies, they must be 80mm wide, 60mm high and 120mm long, with thin flaky pastry, a struggle to eat two of them.
and only 80p each :grin:
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Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:33 -
jonsykes wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:18 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 14:32 -
jonsykes wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 17:07 -
Gregg's sausage-rolls have been vegan for years - there's f**be-all meat in them.
Just about the best high street sausage rolls for my money. Love em!

A local bakery does vegan ones. I tried one out of curiosity and it wasn't that bad tbh. A bit heavy on the herbs but if there's no meat I guess you need some flavour from some where.
I can eat the Gregg's one easy enough, they taste nice - but they are very greasy & I suspect there is minimal meat in them. The filling is just pink coloured sausage rusk & lard with flavourings added (plenty pepper). Like I say, I could wat em all day.
The pink meat thing is my guiding light. I wont buy those really pink things as they are putrid with no texture. I dont know if they differ but the ones in my locality from Gregg's are a much greyer colour than the really cheap ones.

As for meat content: I've made my own with top quality meat and they dont taste as good as the bog standard 'eyes, ears and arrisoles' numbers.

Sausage rolls arent about the meat quality or percentage. Even the best butcher's bangers are usually made from the otherwise unused parts of the animal. I think that's the job of a sausage. I.e to make use of less popular animal parts.
Not this blokes Chris :wink: But I think he'd struggle to compete with Musks :laughs:

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Kev Berry wrote: Mon Jan 06 2020 12:35 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:33 -
jonsykes wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:18 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 14:32 -
jonsykes wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 17:07 -
Gregg's sausage-rolls have been vegan for years - there's f**be-all meat in them.
Just about the best high street sausage rolls for my money. Love em!

A local bakery does vegan ones. I tried one out of curiosity and it wasn't that bad tbh. A bit heavy on the herbs but if there's no meat I guess you need some flavour from some where.
I can eat the Gregg's one easy enough, they taste nice - but they are very greasy & I suspect there is minimal meat in them. The filling is just pink coloured sausage rusk & lard with flavourings added (plenty pepper). Like I say, I could wat em all day.
The pink meat thing is my guiding light. I wont buy those really pink things as they are putrid with no texture. I dont know if they differ but the ones in my locality from Gregg's are a much greyer colour than the really cheap ones.

As for meat content: I've made my own with top quality meat and they dont taste as good as the bog standard 'eyes, ears and arrisoles' numbers.

Sausage rolls arent about the meat quality or percentage. Even the best butcher's bangers are usually made from the otherwise unused parts of the animal. I think that's the job of a sausage. I.e to make use of less popular animal parts.
I was in my butchers a while back and he was filling a big stainless bucket with stuff off the display slab. I asked him what he was doing with it, said it was to make sausage meat for the sausage rolls
Nothing in that bucket I wouldn't have eaten on a plate. Pork, beef, chicken and liver.
Their sausage rolls are to die for--in fact they are addictive .
No pencil sized pink streak of meat in these babies, they must be 80mm wide, 60mm high and 120mm long, with thin flaky pastry, a struggle to eat two of them.
and only 80p each :grin:
Some good ones locally too Kev. I reckon the big high street bakers took what was commonly a great english delicacy and turned it into s**t.
I can't remember eating a bad sausage roll when I was a kid.
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davelumb wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 17:30 -
Steve C wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 16:28 -
davelumb wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 16:35 -
I'm doubt an 'ethical vegan' would.
Makes you wonder where ethical Vegans do their weekly shop Dave
Cloud cuckoo land.

That one who got ethical veganism recognised as a philosophical belief the other day tries not to take buses in case the bus accidentally kills a fly. :dizzy:
And that is where it becomes crazy.....everything we are a large land based animal will end up resulting in the death of something living or breathing....
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Anybody watch apocalypse cow ? Don’t want you eating meat..... unless it’s grown in a lab, that’s from a vegan who can save the planet. He wants to see the reintroduction of Wolves to control the Deer that are eating all the saplings so we can have the forests back.
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Steve Le maitre wrote: Thu Jan 09 2020 19:42 -
Anybody watch apocalypse cow ? Don’t want you eating meat..... unless it’s grown in a lab, that’s from a vegan who can save the planet. He wants to see the reintroduction of Wolves to control the Deer that are eating all the saplings so we can have the forests back.
Gonna try watching it tonight. I doubt I'll last the course. :dizzy:

He's a f****n loon who hates sheep. :guns:

His vision taken to its logical conclusion is everyone bar a tiny elite will live in cities eating 'food' manufactured in industial units.

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LAMMA, too right I was there, back on the tractor today :grin: win win :laughs:
Somebody is pushing this agenda Dave what with Channel 4 giving him a platform, oh you must watch meat the family. That was the warm up to apocalypse cow, ‘twas very clever propaganda. I sees through it though even with me turnip head on.
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Steve Le maitre wrote: Thu Jan 09 2020 19:55 -
LAMMA, too right I was there, back on the tractor today :grin: win win :laughs:
Somebody is pushing this agenda Dave what with Channel 4 giving him a platform, oh you must watch meat the family. That was the warm up to apocalypse cow, ‘twas very clever propaganda. I sees through it though even with me turnip head on.
Thought you might have gone for a drool. :wink:

I guess you know about this: https://www.farminguk.com/news/vegan-ad ... 53972.html
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No I hadn’t seen that Dave.
Can someone answer me this..... why do vegetarians still want to eat foods that looks, tastes and has the texture of meat.
If I give up vegetables I don’t want to then be eating a steak that tastes of turnip.
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"...why do vegetarians still want to eat foods that looks, tastes and has the texture of meat."

Because they crave the taste and texture of meat in their mouths! :smile:
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....Ah that explains the wife’s love of chipolata.
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Steve Le maitre wrote: Thu Jan 09 2020 20:19 -
....Ah that explains the wife’s love of chipolata.
Hey Steve. Are you related to Quick Dick?
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.... the man is a genius, deserves fan mail. Deere John........ :grin:
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Steve Le maitre wrote: Thu Jan 09 2020 20:08 -
No I hadn’t seen that Dave.
Can someone answer me this..... why do vegetarians still want to eat foods that looks, tastes and has the texture of meat.
If I give up vegetables I don’t want to then be eating a steak that tastes of turnip.
Giving up meat doesn't neccesarily mean a person doesn't enjoy the taste I suppose. I would hazard a guess that most veggies/vegans stop eating meat on ethical grounds rather than because they dislike it.

Speaking personally I love meat but do have a bit of an issue with the fact it means something has to die. I ordered a vegan/gluten free cookbook yesterday. I want to cut down on my meat intake for health reasons mainly, but if I can find palatable alternatives to meat I'd have no qualms in stopping eating it.

I can't see anything wrong with vegetarians/vegans at all myself as long as they don't ram it down people's throats.
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Bob Watson wrote: Mon Jan 06 2020 20:31 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:33 -
jonsykes wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:18 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 14:32 -
jonsykes wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 17:07 -
Gregg's sausage-rolls have been vegan for years - there's f**be-all meat in them.
Just about the best high street sausage rolls for my money. Love em!

A local bakery does vegan ones. I tried one out of curiosity and it wasn't that bad tbh. A bit heavy on the herbs but if there's no meat I guess you need some flavour from some where.
I can eat the Gregg's one easy enough, they taste nice - but they are very greasy & I suspect there is minimal meat in them. The filling is just pink coloured sausage rusk & lard with flavourings added (plenty pepper). Like I say, I could wat em all day.
The pink meat thing is my guiding light. I wont buy those really pink things as they are putrid with no texture. I dont know if they differ but the ones in my locality from Gregg's are a much greyer colour than the really cheap ones.

As for meat content: I've made my own with top quality meat and they dont taste as good as the bog standard 'eyes, ears and arrisoles' numbers.

Sausage rolls arent about the meat quality or percentage. Even the best butcher's bangers are usually made from the otherwise unused parts of the animal. I think that's the job of a sausage. I.e to make use of less popular animal parts.
Not this blokes Chris :wink: But I think he'd struggle to compete with Musks :laughs:

Possibly the best home cooking channel out there :thumbs:
I tend to buy another local butchers now Bob, though both Newmarket sausages are top notch. If you ever find yourself down this way again I'll sort some out for us on the bank. :wink:
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Chris Hammond wrote: Sun Jan 12 2020 11:31 -
Bob Watson wrote: Mon Jan 06 2020 20:31 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:33 -
jonsykes wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:18 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 14:32 -
jonsykes wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 17:07 -
Gregg's sausage-rolls have been vegan for years - there's f**be-all meat in them.
Just about the best high street sausage rolls for my money. Love em!

A local bakery does vegan ones. I tried one out of curiosity and it wasn't that bad tbh. A bit heavy on the herbs but if there's no meat I guess you need some flavour from some where.
I can eat the Gregg's one easy enough, they taste nice - but they are very greasy & I suspect there is minimal meat in them. The filling is just pink coloured sausage rusk & lard with flavourings added (plenty pepper). Like I say, I could wat em all day.
The pink meat thing is my guiding light. I wont buy those really pink things as they are putrid with no texture. I dont know if they differ but the ones in my locality from Gregg's are a much greyer colour than the really cheap ones.

As for meat content: I've made my own with top quality meat and they dont taste as good as the bog standard 'eyes, ears and arrisoles' numbers.

Sausage rolls arent about the meat quality or percentage. Even the best butcher's bangers are usually made from the otherwise unused parts of the animal. I think that's the job of a sausage. I.e to make use of less popular animal parts.
Not this blokes Chris :wink: But I think he'd struggle to compete with Musks :laughs:

Possibly the best home cooking channel out there :thumbs:
I tend to buy another local butchers now Bob, though both Newmarket sausages are top notch. If you ever find yourself down this way again I'll sort some out for us on the bank. :wink:
I know we keep saying it, but we really do need to make it happen :thumbs:
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Bob Watson wrote: Sun Jan 12 2020 11:44 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sun Jan 12 2020 11:31 -
Bob Watson wrote: Mon Jan 06 2020 20:31 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:33 -
jonsykes wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:18 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 14:32 -
jonsykes wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 17:07 -
Gregg's sausage-rolls have been vegan for years - there's f**be-all meat in them.
Just about the best high street sausage rolls for my money. Love em!

A local bakery does vegan ones. I tried one out of curiosity and it wasn't that bad tbh. A bit heavy on the herbs but if there's no meat I guess you need some flavour from some where.
I can eat the Gregg's one easy enough, they taste nice - but they are very greasy & I suspect there is minimal meat in them. The filling is just pink coloured sausage rusk & lard with flavourings added (plenty pepper). Like I say, I could wat em all day.
The pink meat thing is my guiding light. I wont buy those really pink things as they are putrid with no texture. I dont know if they differ but the ones in my locality from Gregg's are a much greyer colour than the really cheap ones.

As for meat content: I've made my own with top quality meat and they dont taste as good as the bog standard 'eyes, ears and arrisoles' numbers.

Sausage rolls arent about the meat quality or percentage. Even the best butcher's bangers are usually made from the otherwise unused parts of the animal. I think that's the job of a sausage. I.e to make use of less popular animal parts.
Not this blokes Chris :wink: But I think he'd struggle to compete with Musks :laughs:

Possibly the best home cooking channel out there :thumbs:
I tend to buy another local butchers now Bob, though both Newmarket sausages are top notch. If you ever find yourself down this way again I'll sort some out for us on the bank. :wink:
I know we keep saying it, but we really do need to make it happen :thumbs:
I'm terrible for it Bob. Like the ,lyric says on Floyd's DSOTM "every day is getting shorter, never seem to find the time". :sad:

I'm just about out of the game for cold weather fishing. Arthritis, poor circulation and carpel trouble means that even in relatively mild weather my fingers are frozen stiff. I'm really struggling at work this year too. My hands won't keep warm even in thermal gloves. I tried sourcing some of those electrically heated gloves but the pair I ordered from Ebay had a battery pack the size of a ten pack of ciggies! :sad:
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Chris Hammond wrote: Sun Jan 12 2020 11:49 -
Bob Watson wrote: Sun Jan 12 2020 11:44 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sun Jan 12 2020 11:31 -
Bob Watson wrote: Mon Jan 06 2020 20:31 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:33 -
jonsykes wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 15:18 -
Chris Hammond wrote: Sat Jan 04 2020 14:32 -
jonsykes wrote: Thu Jan 02 2020 17:07 -
Gregg's sausage-rolls have been vegan for years - there's f**be-all meat in them.
Just about the best high street sausage rolls for my money. Love em!

A local bakery does vegan ones. I tried one out of curiosity and it wasn't that bad tbh. A bit heavy on the herbs but if there's no meat I guess you need some flavour from some where.
I can eat the Gregg's one easy enough, they taste nice - but they are very greasy & I suspect there is minimal meat in them. The filling is just pink coloured sausage rusk & lard with flavourings added (plenty pepper). Like I say, I could wat em all day.
The pink meat thing is my guiding light. I wont buy those really pink things as they are putrid with no texture. I dont know if they differ but the ones in my locality from Gregg's are a much greyer colour than the really cheap ones.

As for meat content: I've made my own with top quality meat and they dont taste as good as the bog standard 'eyes, ears and arrisoles' numbers.

Sausage rolls arent about the meat quality or percentage. Even the best butcher's bangers are usually made from the otherwise unused parts of the animal. I think that's the job of a sausage. I.e to make use of less popular animal parts.
Not this blokes Chris :wink: But I think he'd struggle to compete with Musks :laughs:

Possibly the best home cooking channel out there :thumbs:
I tend to buy another local butchers now Bob, though both Newmarket sausages are top notch. If you ever find yourself down this way again I'll sort some out for us on the bank. :wink:
I know we keep saying it, but we really do need to make it happen :thumbs:
I'm terrible for it Bob. Like the ,lyric says on Floyd's DSOTM "every day is getting shorter, never seem to find the time". :sad:

I'm just about out of the game for cold weather fishing. Arthritis, poor circulation and carpel trouble means that even in relatively mild weather my fingers are frozen stiff. I'm really struggling at work this year too. My hands won't keep warm even in thermal gloves. I tried sourcing some of those electrically heated gloves but the pair I ordered from Ebay had a battery pack the size of a ten pack of ciggies! :sad:
Same here Chris, diagnosed with arthritis in both hips last year, 30 odd years of kerbing and flagging will do that to you.

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I had some assessor come on site and award me a NVQ for 360's last year but I dont think it is any use other than giving my gaffer a bit of cover. What sort of cost is it Bob?
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Chris Hammond wrote: Sun Jan 12 2020 12:11 -
I had some assessor come on site and award me a NVQ for 360's last year but I dont think it is any use other than giving my gaffer a bit of cover. What sort of cost is it Bob?
That will have been an "In house" ticket to cover you for that particular contractor.

I found a guy locally that did my NPORS forward and side tipping (rotating) dumpers, 180 and 360 excavator above and below 10 ton with lifting ops and quick hitch for £640. Unfortunately, on the day, the 3CX was out of commission so I can get that any time for £200 which he knocked off the initial total on the day.

CPCS was going to be £800 just for the 360 with lifting ops (with my experience) for two days, a day to show me what they wanted and a day to do it, but NPORS is rapidly becoming nationally accepted due to them taking a large construction company to court for refusing their credentials.
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