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Talk about Lure/Tackle ID's; Reminisce over bygone times and old fishing tackle
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Re: (Vintage) Lure Porn

Post by Monts » Mon Jun 17 2019 18:39

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A Heddon sold by ABU. The only reference I can find to this outsourcing of the 'Sonic' by ABU says the arrangement with Heddon ended in 1960. I seem to recall seeing them in a shop in the 1970s, so always thought it was a later co-operation than that. Must have been old stock?

I got this one in a mixed lot that included the Sonic loose with another pair of Heddons, but there were a couple of ABU boxes too. Took a gamble that one of the ABU boxes might be the rare one for the outsourced Heddon and it paid off! :thumbs: A pretty rare combination, so very pleased to get it! :pipe:


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The other Heddons with it were this pair! :cool:


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Ahhh the XBW pattern :laughs: Very nice.
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Post by John Milford » Mon Jun 17 2019 18:45

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Ahhh the XBW pattern :laughs: Very nice.
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Post by royboy » Mon Jun 17 2019 19:53

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Anyone know anything about the Boone Crankbait , pictured beside the SSR .

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 4258608377

Got one in a trade with JM , but can`t find any info on them .
The Boone baits brand is an Australian sea fishing company . But of this particular lure there is no mention .
Perhaps it has been discontinued ..
I`ve used it a bit trolling but nothing on it yet .......
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That bait i sent you Pat is a Boone 'Sundance Striper' Plug. As I think I mentioned, a mate I lent it to once had an 11lb rainbow on it!

They are a discontinued model, but they mostly seem to crop up on Japanese auction sites these days. They obviously like them! :wink:

You did mention the 11lb Rainbow John !!, it was the "Sundance Striper " bit I was missing !
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Post by jonsykes » Thu Jun 20 2019 06:15

Now then, how about this - pics pinched from a Facebook site.
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Post by John Milford » Thu Jun 20 2019 10:34

:thumbs: :laughs: Heddon used something called 'Toilet Seat' hardware, but that takes it to another level Jon!
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Post by jonsykes » Thu Jun 20 2019 11:08

The story goes it came from the Heddon factory but it’s too modern an idea me thinks.

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Post by Will Smith » Thu Jun 20 2019 13:27

Haha, thats great John.

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Post by Happy Hayes » Thu Jun 20 2019 13:56

jonsykes wrote:
Now then, how about this - pics pinched from a Facebook site.
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Post by davelumb » Thu Jun 20 2019 14:14

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Now then, how about this - pics pinched from a Facebook site.
I can't tell if those are lures and things moulded in, or photoprints. :scratch:

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Post by jonsykes » Thu Jun 20 2019 14:15

Moulded in I think Dave, I’ve got a beach themed one with shells & such in.
I’ve seen a barbed wire one too!

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Post by davelumb » Thu Jun 20 2019 14:21

:thumbs:

I didn't know if the seat would be think enough to encapsulate lures, although one looks like it might not be fully coated.

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Post by jonsykes » Thu Jun 20 2019 14:28

Well I hope the hooks are.

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Post by davelumb » Thu Jun 20 2019 14:48

:afraid:

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Post by John Milford » Thu Jun 20 2019 16:36

I reckon there could be something to the Heddon factory story.

There are lots of bits of loose Tadpolly factory hardware in there - which suggests a company rather than an individual commissioned it.

I wouldn't mind betting it was presented to Heddon by one of the plastic molding companies they used?
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Post by John Milford » Tue Jun 25 2019 23:50

I've been a bit quiet over the last week as I'm on holiday, but hopefully there will be some goodies in the mailbox awaiting my return. :wink:

I've just got this old warrior for just a few quid, which might just be waiting for me when I get home. It's a very early plug, perhaps over 100 years old, from the Hastings Sportings Goods Company, Hastings, Michigan. It's their famous 'Wilson Fluted Wobbler' patented by Richard T. Wilson in 1913. A bit of a 'beater', but a nice and rare old bait nevertheless! :pipe:

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I've been a bit quiet over the last week as I'm on holiday, but hopefully there will be some goodies in the mailbox awaiting my return. :wink:

I've just got this old warrior for just a few quid, which might just be waiting for me when I get home. It's a very early plug, perhaps over 100 years old, from the Hastings Sportings Goods Company, Hastings, Michigan. It's their famous 'Wilson Fluted Wobbler' patented by Richard T. Wilson in 1913. A bit of a 'beater', but a nice and rare old bait nevertheless! :pipe:


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How big is it, John? Is it a jerkbait?

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Post by John Milford » Wed Jun 26 2019 08:44

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John Milford wrote:
I've been a bit quiet over the last week as I'm on holiday, but hopefully there will be some goodies in the mailbox awaiting my return. :wink:

I've just got this old warrior for just a few quid, which might just be waiting for me when I get home. It's a very early plug, perhaps over 100 years old, from the Hastings Sportings Goods Company, Hastings, Michigan. It's their famous 'Wilson Fluted Wobbler' patented by Richard T. Wilson in 1913. A bit of a 'beater', but a nice and rare old bait nevertheless! :pipe:


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How big is it, John? Is it a jerkbait?
It's a 4" swimbait Dave. They were said to have a "smooth swaying wobble" on the retrieve (but I won't be putting that to the test! :grin: ).
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John Milford wrote:
I've been a bit quiet over the last week as I'm on holiday, but hopefully there will be some goodies in the mailbox awaiting my return. :wink:

I've just got this old warrior for just a few quid, which might just be waiting for me when I get home. It's a very early plug, perhaps over 100 years old, from the Hastings Sportings Goods Company, Hastings, Michigan. It's their famous 'Wilson Fluted Wobbler' patented by Richard T. Wilson in 1913. A bit of a 'beater', but a nice and rare old bait nevertheless! :pipe:


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How big is it, John? Is it a jerkbait?
It's a 4" swimbait Dave. They were said to have a "smooth swaying wobble" on the retrieve (but I won't be putting that to the test! :grin: ).
Cheers.

It's got to be worth one chuck to see what it does. :joker:

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Post by Will Smith » Wed Jun 26 2019 10:59

davelumb wrote:
John Milford wrote:
davelumb wrote:
John Milford wrote:
I've been a bit quiet over the last week as I'm on holiday, but hopefully there will be some goodies in the mailbox awaiting my return. :wink:

I've just got this old warrior for just a few quid, which might just be waiting for me when I get home. It's a very early plug, perhaps over 100 years old, from the Hastings Sportings Goods Company, Hastings, Michigan. It's their famous 'Wilson Fluted Wobbler' patented by Richard T. Wilson in 1913. A bit of a 'beater', but a nice and rare old bait nevertheless! :pipe:


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How big is it, John? Is it a jerkbait?
It's a 4" swimbait Dave. They were said to have a "smooth swaying wobble" on the retrieve (but I won't be putting that to the test! :grin: ).
Cheers.

It's got to be worth one chuck to see what it does. :joker:
Aye in the bath maybe Dave, less chance of a snag in there, you would think/hope :laughs: :laughs: .

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Post by martin godliman » Wed Jun 26 2019 13:43

I expect Mark will have knocked a copy up for later today :smile:
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I expect Mark will have knocked a copy up for later today :smile:
I bet you could match the paint job. :thumbs:

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Post by martin godliman » Wed Jun 26 2019 13:46

davelumb wrote:
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I expect Mark will have knocked a copy up for later today :smile:
I bet you could match the paint job. :thumbs:
Easily :cool:
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Post by Mark_Houghton » Wed Jun 26 2019 13:48

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I expect Mark will have knocked a copy up for later today :smile:
Nope :grin: it`s an interesting bait, but not one i`d be bothered about making....

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martin godliman wrote:
I expect Mark will have knocked a copy up for later today :smile:
Nope :grin: it`s an interesting bait, but not one i`d be bothered about making....
On a different tack Mark how deep could you make deep diver (plug/crankbait) go do you reckon on the troll, say six to eight inches ? without a device I mean.
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Mark_Houghton wrote:
martin godliman wrote:
I expect Mark will have knocked a copy up for later today :smile:
Nope :grin: it`s an interesting bait, but not one i`d be bothered about making....
On a different tack Mark how deep could you make deep diver (plug/crankbait) go do you reckon on the troll, say six to eight inches ? without a device I mean.
30ft or so, which isn`t really any deeper than the commercial models.....Depthraiders and large Ernies can be run over 30ft on thinner diameter braids and a long line out, at 3.5 to 4mph. If I wanted baits to run mega deep, or go deeper on a shorter line, i`d be inclined to run something like those two on lead cored lines.

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Post by martin godliman » Wed Jun 26 2019 15:01

Mark_Houghton wrote:
martin godliman wrote:
Mark_Houghton wrote:
martin godliman wrote:
I expect Mark will have knocked a copy up for later today :smile:
Nope :grin: it`s an interesting bait, but not one i`d be bothered about making....
On a different tack Mark how deep could you make deep diver (plug/crankbait) go do you reckon on the troll, say six to eight inches ? without a device I mean.
30ft or so, which isn`t really any deeper than the commercial models.....Depthraiders and large Ernies can be run over 30ft on thinner diameter braids and a long line out, at 3.5 to 4mph. If I wanted baits to run mega deep, or go deeper on a shorter line, i`d be inclined to run something like those two on lead cored lines.
I guess, more or less what I thought too, I did make some heavy duty sinking crankbaits with stainless steel diving vanes for Nile perch fishing I'm pretty sure went down a bit over thirty but I couldn't exactly measure it. I did make one for pike fishing I used in Spain that hit bottom thirty plus I caught a twenty on it but I lost it and never managed to repeat it and keep it stable, I could never work out why.
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Post by Mark_Houghton » Wed Jun 26 2019 15:50

martin godliman wrote:
Mark_Houghton wrote:
martin godliman wrote:
Mark_Houghton wrote:
martin godliman wrote:
I expect Mark will have knocked a copy up for later today :smile:
Nope :grin: it`s an interesting bait, but not one i`d be bothered about making....
On a different tack Mark how deep could you make deep diver (plug/crankbait) go do you reckon on the troll, say six to eight inches ? without a device I mean.
30ft or so, which isn`t really any deeper than the commercial models.....Depthraiders and large Ernies can be run over 30ft on thinner diameter braids and a long line out, at 3.5 to 4mph. If I wanted baits to run mega deep, or go deeper on a shorter line, i`d be inclined to run something like those two on lead cored lines.
I guess, more or less what I thought too, I did make some heavy duty sinking crankbaits with stainless steel diving vanes for Nile perch fishing I'm pretty sure went down a bit over thirty but I couldn't exactly measure it. I did make one for pike fishing I used in Spain that hit bottom thirty plus I caught a twenty on it but I lost it and never managed to repeat it and keep it stable, I could never work out why.
Countdowns are good if you want to troll deep very slowly, only trouble being a lot of them are designed to be trolled at faster speeds. Finding one that retains a good action at slow speeds isnt easy. I`m not up to speed with a lot of the modern larger musky lures, but i`d imagine some of those will troll down to 40ft or more. Andrew Nagel`s your man to ask :thumbs:

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Post by John Milford » Wed Jun 26 2019 16:02

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Aye in the bath maybe Dave, less chance of a snag in there, you would think/hope :laughs: :laughs: .

No doubt you saw this big Tiger John, it realised a very good price :-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-HEDD ... 7675.l2557

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Yes, I was watching that one Will :thumbs: It was a beauty! I wasn't surprised it topped £100. I didn't consider bidding though, as I've already got this one - not with that same lovely scaled Hot Tiger finish, but close enough :pipe:

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(Mark will be pleased to know I'll be fishing this one, but I'm waiting for some lead wire to weight it's new hooks to calm it down a bit. It currently a bit too wild and shallow for my liking).
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John Milford wrote:
Will Smith wrote:
Aye in the bath maybe Dave, less chance of a snag in there, you would think/hope :laughs: :laughs: .

No doubt you saw this big Tiger John, it realised a very good price :-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-HEDD ... 7675.l2557

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Yes, I was watching that one Will :thumbs: It was a beauty! I wasn't surprised it topped £100. I didn't consider bidding though, as I've already got this one - not with that same lovely scaled Hot Tiger finish, but close enough :pipe:


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(Mark will be pleased to know I'll be fishing this one, but I'm waiting for some lead wire to weight it's new hooks to calm it down a bit. It currently a bit too wild and shallow for my liking).
Nice pattern that John :thumbs: You could get away with upping the size of hooks slightly on that without them becoming OTT, which would do the same job as the lead....neater too :smile:

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Mark_Houghton wrote:
John Milford wrote:
Will Smith wrote:
Aye in the bath maybe Dave, less chance of a snag in there, you would think/hope :laughs: :laughs: .

No doubt you saw this big Tiger John, it realised a very good price :-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-HEDD ... 7675.l2557

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Yes, I was watching that one Will :thumbs: It was a beauty! I wasn't surprised it topped £100. I didn't consider bidding though, as I've already got this one - not with that same lovely scaled Hot Tiger finish, but close enough :pipe:


IMG_20190202_142050.jpg

(Mark will be pleased to know I'll be fishing this one, but I'm waiting for some lead wire to weight it's new hooks to calm it down a bit. It currently a bit too wild and shallow for my liking).
Nice pattern that John :thumbs: You could get away with upping the size of hooks slightly on that without them becoming OTT, which would do the same job as the lead....neater too :smile:
:thumbs: They're just the hooks it came with Mark. I swapped them for size 1 Gamakatsus, but it had a horrible shallow, wildly slashing wobble with those too.

(The older Big Tigers had heavy wire galvanised hooks, like the ones on MagTad's, so they're designed for weighty hooks).
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