Hi.
I have a conundrum that I just can't wrap my head around. A certain tackle manufacturer supplies a quick change lead. Virtually every video item shows the lead attached to the trace link with its rubber sleeve. But surely this fixes it to the line and hence...resistance.
If the its used as a float ledger set up surely this is far more likely to give resistance vs a conventional run ring. So why use it in stead of the less resistant running rig.? Is it only for use as a weight to c*ck a float below a suspended bait, but again...it offers resistance on the rig.
This is driving me nuts. Why would you ever use them?
Can someone help my sanity before Tuesday please, thanks
Confused
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Re: Confused
you can name the manufacturer and quick link on here btw, it might help if to see it
some folks like it some folks don't. The resistance vs no resistance debate has gone on forever
some folks like it some folks don't. The resistance vs no resistance debate has gone on forever
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Re: Confused
Which leads are you talking about?
I thought it might be the Korum Snapper but I've just had look at mine & they free run.
A pike will get resistance from the float but I can't say I've had any issues with normal or drift floats & suspended baits.
Plenty of inline leads - some also quick change - used for carping & by fitting a bead between the swivel & the lead instead of pushing the swivel into the bottom of the lead plastic tube they will free run, but obviously not as good as a proper run ring.
I thought it might be the Korum Snapper but I've just had look at mine & they free run.
A pike will get resistance from the float but I can't say I've had any issues with normal or drift floats & suspended baits.
Plenty of inline leads - some also quick change - used for carping & by fitting a bead between the swivel & the lead instead of pushing the swivel into the bottom of the lead plastic tube they will free run, but obviously not as good as a proper run ring.
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Re: Confused
Mirador wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28 2024 09:46 -Quite a few on here using semi-fixed leads for pike leger rigs these days.Hi.
I have a conundrum that I just can't wrap my head around. A certain tackle manufacturer supplies a quick change lead. Virtually every video item shows the lead attached to the trace link with its rubber sleeve. But surely this fixes it to the line and hence...resistance.
If the its used as a float ledger set up surely this is far more likely to give resistance vs a conventional run ring. So why use it in stead of the less resistant running rig.? Is it only for use as a weight to c*ck a float below a suspended bait, but again...it offers resistance on the rig.
This is driving me nuts. Why would you ever use them?
Can someone help my sanity before Tuesday please, thanks
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Re: Confused
If you have a link to the video, we can understand better what you mean. Now it's only guessing.
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Re: Confused
to be honest the fox quick change leads can be retained on the swivel[as i do] its the change of pressure that is the issue and my catches have not deminished becuase of it
retired so time to smell the roses.
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Re: Confused
Semi fixed weights on float set ups have been used successfully since pike fishing was documented. I use semi fixed weights float and ledgering. You just need good bite indication methods when ledgering.
Love the hit!
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Re: Confused
Inline quick change leads are great. They suit my fishing perfectly because I can use the same rig for both float ledger hard on the bottom or suspended baits trotted down the margins.
The lead can be fixed and just pushes over the swivel with the rubber tube. It easily pulls off in the event of a cut off making it a running safe rig if needed.
I do believe resistance is important but not necessarily to get rid of it altogether, just keep it consistent. So the fish picks up your baits and starts to drag your 35g egg sinker around with it and that’s fine because it’s consistent.
From my experience dropped runs occur more if the resistance is low then for some reason is suddenly changes.
How many of us have hooked a chub or roach that gets snatched on the return by a pike?….. Probably all of us I’d guess.
How many of us has actually netted the pike or come very close before it lets go? I reckon that’s got to be most of us.
The resistance in these cases is very high but she’s not bothered. She just wants her meal and your trying to take it away from her as far as she’s concerned.
The lead can be fixed and just pushes over the swivel with the rubber tube. It easily pulls off in the event of a cut off making it a running safe rig if needed.
I do believe resistance is important but not necessarily to get rid of it altogether, just keep it consistent. So the fish picks up your baits and starts to drag your 35g egg sinker around with it and that’s fine because it’s consistent.
From my experience dropped runs occur more if the resistance is low then for some reason is suddenly changes.
How many of us have hooked a chub or roach that gets snatched on the return by a pike?….. Probably all of us I’d guess.
How many of us has actually netted the pike or come very close before it lets go? I reckon that’s got to be most of us.
The resistance in these cases is very high but she’s not bothered. She just wants her meal and your trying to take it away from her as far as she’s concerned.