Fresh fish
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Fresh fish
Gone off chicken & pork recently, moved into fresh fish, probably cheaper to buy lamb or beef.
Bought fresh mussels, squid. Red gurnard and monkfish, what I call the cheaper end, 1st time on Red Gurnard, definitely buying again, I did also get the carcass of 2 turbot and 2 monkfish, these were boiled down with a variety of veg and a sauvignon blanc ... if I could of got prawn heads I would have.
Surprised by the cost of what amounted to 6 meals over 3 nights, however a pleasant change, may get some conger fillets next time.
Bought fresh mussels, squid. Red gurnard and monkfish, what I call the cheaper end, 1st time on Red Gurnard, definitely buying again, I did also get the carcass of 2 turbot and 2 monkfish, these were boiled down with a variety of veg and a sauvignon blanc ... if I could of got prawn heads I would have.
Surprised by the cost of what amounted to 6 meals over 3 nights, however a pleasant change, may get some conger fillets next time.
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Re: Fresh fish
I love fish, the wife, however doesn't !
This means I very rarely cook it as Im only ever cooking for 1
This means I very rarely cook it as Im only ever cooking for 1

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Re: Fresh fish
I was in Alicante a few weeks back and went to their central market where there was everything you could ever want to cook.
The fish section alone was utterly amazing with hundreds of species from whole tuna and grouper to tiny finger length stuff.
Prices for some deep sea prawns were up to 100 Euro/kg down to 2-3 Euro/kg for some of the smaller fish and there was several bars
, each of the two floors was the size of a football pitch...ish!
Such a shame we dont have such places as fish in particular would be on my menu.
Cheers, Alan
The fish section alone was utterly amazing with hundreds of species from whole tuna and grouper to tiny finger length stuff.
Prices for some deep sea prawns were up to 100 Euro/kg down to 2-3 Euro/kg for some of the smaller fish and there was several bars

Such a shame we dont have such places as fish in particular would be on my menu.
Cheers, Alan
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Re: Fresh fish
Eating fish.
I was served catfish at my regular chippie a month or so ago, so that was the last time I will ever go there.
As an alternative I bought a fillet of cod from my local supplier which cost me £18 and made four meals but atleast I knew what it was and that it was fresh.
On the budgeting side I could have bought four half decent steaks or a leg of NZ lamb for the same money. But which would I have enjoyed the most, probably the fish.
Mussels I love, shallots, bit of garlic, a cheap white and some crusty bread and it's a meal I can eat forever.
What you cannot get here (compared to Europe) is cutlets of fish like hake and conger, both of which are far better if they are cooked on the bone.
But for me the king of all fish dishes is a whole bass steamed over a ginger infusion, Red Mullet steamed the same way are a high priced delicacy in some countries especially if the eggs are left inside during the process.
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Alan,
The reason the prawns/gambas you saw were so expensive is that they are trawled locally from very deep water and the boats are only permitted to work during the day, all of which costs a lot in time and money.
I used to catch tunas by running behind the prawn boats when the crew cleaned their catches, some of the crews were really friendly, some even dropping back a bag for nothing more than a friendly wave.
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I was served catfish at my regular chippie a month or so ago, so that was the last time I will ever go there.
As an alternative I bought a fillet of cod from my local supplier which cost me £18 and made four meals but atleast I knew what it was and that it was fresh.
On the budgeting side I could have bought four half decent steaks or a leg of NZ lamb for the same money. But which would I have enjoyed the most, probably the fish.
Mussels I love, shallots, bit of garlic, a cheap white and some crusty bread and it's a meal I can eat forever.
What you cannot get here (compared to Europe) is cutlets of fish like hake and conger, both of which are far better if they are cooked on the bone.
But for me the king of all fish dishes is a whole bass steamed over a ginger infusion, Red Mullet steamed the same way are a high priced delicacy in some countries especially if the eggs are left inside during the process.
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Alan,
The reason the prawns/gambas you saw were so expensive is that they are trawled locally from very deep water and the boats are only permitted to work during the day, all of which costs a lot in time and money.
I used to catch tunas by running behind the prawn boats when the crew cleaned their catches, some of the crews were really friendly, some even dropping back a bag for nothing more than a friendly wave.
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'No Man Ever Fishes The Same River Twice, .... For It Is Not The Same River, .... And He Is Not The Same Man' Heraclitus of Ephesus
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Re: Fresh fish
The continent has a better relationship with fish, especially wholefish, the cost of what I bought was offset by the offcuts I got for stock, for me personally I find the same with chicken, the carcase is the bit that I find the best flavours in boiling down into stocks, I always boil down with a few bay leaves, onions(including skin as I like the rich colour) and carrots n celery.
Karl... same here I did a ginger and garlic paste with kaffir lime leaves all ground as a base, cooked the monkfish and removed, then the Gurnard and removed then I added mussels, few chopped tomatoes some sliced fresh fennel and a glass of wine till they opened, toasted some sourdough and reconstructed the dish with plenty of parsley...
The response i got was, I fancy beans on toast for tomorrow....
I enjoyed it lol
Karl... same here I did a ginger and garlic paste with kaffir lime leaves all ground as a base, cooked the monkfish and removed, then the Gurnard and removed then I added mussels, few chopped tomatoes some sliced fresh fennel and a glass of wine till they opened, toasted some sourdough and reconstructed the dish with plenty of parsley...
The response i got was, I fancy beans on toast for tomorrow....
I enjoyed it lol
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Re: Fresh fish
Mike J wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 09:54 -I find hogget preferable Mike or if I can get it mutton, that said mutton is definitely a different beast to cook with....Eating fish.
I was served catfish at my regular chippie a month or so ago, so that was the last time I will ever go there.
As an alternative I bought a fillet of cod from my local supplier which cost me £18 and made four meals but atleast I knew what it was and that it was fresh.
On the budgeting side I could have bought four half decent steaks or a leg of NZ lamb for the same money. But which would I have enjoyed the most, probably the fish.
Mussels I love, shallots, bit of garlic, a cheap white and some crusty bread and it's a meal I can eat forever.
What you cannot get here (compared to Europe) is cutlets of fish like hake and conger, both of which are far better if they are cooked on the bone.
But for me the king of all fish dishes is a whole bass steamed over a ginger infusion, Red Mullet steamed the same way are a high priced delicacy in some countries especially if the eggs are left inside during the process.
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Alan,
The reason the prawns/gambas you saw were so expensive is that they are trawled locally from very deep water and the boats are only permitted to work during the day, all of which costs a lot in time and money.
I used to catch tunas by running behind the prawn boats when the crew cleaned their catches, some of the crews were really friendly, some even dropping back a bag for nothing more than a friendly wave.
.
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Re: Fresh fish
I remember working out of Sfax many years ago, every Sunday we would go with a driver to the market and buy fresh prawns, bass and red mullet for the BBQ.
Loved working in, and around the Mediterranean. All the African culture and foods.
Loved working in, and around the Mediterranean. All the African culture and foods.

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Re: Fresh fish
Stewlaws wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 10:15 -Mike J wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 09:54 -I find hogget preferable Mike or if I can get it mutton, that said mutton is definitely a different beast to cook with....Eating fish.
I was served catfish at my regular chippie a month or so ago, so that was the last time I will ever go there.
As an alternative I bought a fillet of cod from my local supplier which cost me £18 and made four meals but atleast I knew what it was and that it was fresh.
On the budgeting side I could have bought four half decent steaks or a leg of NZ lamb for the same money. But which would I have enjoyed the most, probably the fish.
Mussels I love, shallots, bit of garlic, a cheap white and some crusty bread and it's a meal I can eat forever.
What you cannot get here (compared to Europe) is cutlets of fish like hake and conger, both of which are far better if they are cooked on the bone.
But for me the king of all fish dishes is a whole bass steamed over a ginger infusion, Red Mullet steamed the same way are a high priced delicacy in some countries especially if the eggs are left inside during the process.
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Alan,
The reason the prawns/gambas you saw were so expensive is that they are trawled locally from very deep water and the boats are only permitted to work during the day, all of which costs a lot in time and money.
I used to catch tunas by running behind the prawn boats when the crew cleaned their catches, some of the crews were really friendly, some even dropping back a bag for nothing more than a friendly wave.
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When I was farming I would run on some lambs and finish them on stumble turnips in the autumn, nothing better save for munt.
I can get a whole Romney from the Shepard on the estate, any age (as long as it's not a lamb) and why Im looking at a new bait freezer!
Presently I buy hind legs of mutton from an Halal butcher, its cut differently, similarly to how we would split a deer or a pig. I also do all my own butchering (as you'd expect). He also sells goat but its pretty expensive as its the wedding dish for some nationalities. Cost wise his beef fillet is on par with the other steak cuts which is odd. His chicken is superb and free of all blood which is why I went there in the first place. Certainly worth a look-see if you go past a Halal butcher.
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'No Man Ever Fishes The Same River Twice, .... For It Is Not The Same River, .... And He Is Not The Same Man' Heraclitus of Ephesus
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Re: Fresh fish
Halal meat has no place in the UK ..!! we have animal welfare in this country, and slaughtering an animal this way belongs in the Middle Ages, and the Middle East.
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Re: Fresh fish
Edward.P.A.C wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 07:54 -"I very rarely cook it as Im only ever cooking for 1"I love fish, the wife, however doesn't !
This means I very rarely cook it as Im only ever cooking for 1![]()
Cant think why that would be

Cheers, Alan
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Re: Fresh fish
cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 14:14 -Why not just ask him on a date instead of trolling himEdward.P.A.C wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 07:54 -"I very rarely cook it as Im only ever cooking for 1"I love fish, the wife, however doesn't !
This means I very rarely cook it as Im only ever cooking for 1![]()
Cant think why that would be![]()
Cheers, Alan
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Re: Fresh fish
Carlperkins wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09 2025 16:04 -Guaranteed a great hand job if he didcookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 14:14 -Why not just ask him on a date instead of trolling himEdward.P.A.C wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 07:54 -"I very rarely cook it as Im only ever cooking for 1"I love fish, the wife, however doesn't !
This means I very rarely cook it as Im only ever cooking for 1![]()
Cant think why that would be![]()
Cheers, Alan![]()


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Re: Fresh fish
Carlperkins wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09 2025 16:04 -Trolling the trollcookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 14:14 -Why not just ask him on a date instead of trolling himEdward.P.A.C wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 07:54 -"I very rarely cook it as Im only ever cooking for 1"I love fish, the wife, however doesn't !
This means I very rarely cook it as Im only ever cooking for 1![]()
Cant think why that would be![]()
Cheers, Alan![]()

Cheers, Alan
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity" Seneca, some Roman chap.
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Re: Fresh fish
Edward.P.A.C wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09 2025 16:35 -Well there we are then!Carlperkins wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09 2025 16:04 -Guaranteed a great hand job if he didcookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 14:14 -Why not just ask him on a date instead of trolling himEdward.P.A.C wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 07:54 -"I very rarely cook it as Im only ever cooking for 1"I love fish, the wife, however doesn't !
This means I very rarely cook it as Im only ever cooking for 1![]()
Cant think why that would be![]()
Cheers, Alan![]()
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Cheers, Alan
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Re: Fresh fish
Edward.P.A.C wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 12:00 -Halal meat has no place in the UK ..!! we have animal welfare in this country, and slaughtering an animal this way belongs in the Middle Ages, and the Middle East.

Nothing wrong with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Its everyone else.....Quite possibly the last gravel pit angler
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Re: Fresh fish
Stewlaws wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 10:15 -best hung up and punch it for a couple of days , like in the rocky film .....mutton , not mike .....Mike J wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08 2025 09:54 -I find hogget preferable Mike or if I can get it mutton, that said mutton is definitely a different beast to cook with....Eating fish.
I was served catfish at my regular chippie a month or so ago, so that was the last time I will ever go there.
As an alternative I bought a fillet of cod from my local supplier which cost me £18 and made four meals but atleast I knew what it was and that it was fresh.
On the budgeting side I could have bought four half decent steaks or a leg of NZ lamb for the same money. But which would I have enjoyed the most, probably the fish.
Mussels I love, shallots, bit of garlic, a cheap white and some crusty bread and it's a meal I can eat forever.
What you cannot get here (compared to Europe) is cutlets of fish like hake and conger, both of which are far better if they are cooked on the bone.
But for me the king of all fish dishes is a whole bass steamed over a ginger infusion, Red Mullet steamed the same way are a high priced delicacy in some countries especially if the eggs are left inside during the process.
.....
Alan,
The reason the prawns/gambas you saw were so expensive is that they are trawled locally from very deep water and the boats are only permitted to work during the day, all of which costs a lot in time and money.
I used to catch tunas by running behind the prawn boats when the crew cleaned their catches, some of the crews were really friendly, some even dropping back a bag for nothing more than a friendly wave.
.