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Hooks (maybe an old chestnut)

Post by The predator » Fri May 18 2018 09:58

I'm binning all my old and new Owner trebles but not sure what the next hooks will be.
I know we go over this ground from time to time but things change. Like Owners being made in China which (in my opinion) are substandard.
What are you guys using nowadays? :shrug:
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Post by Steve Moore » Fri May 18 2018 10:05

Drennan double hooks.

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Post by The predator » Fri May 18 2018 10:37

Steve Moore wrote:
Drennan double hooks.
Looking for trebles Steve
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Post by Bob Watson » Fri May 18 2018 11:39

I changed over to the partridge X6 and X7 after Owners a few years back. I prefer the X6 pattern, round bend.

Looks like :lumby: doesn't have them listed anymore, it's been a couple of seasons since I pike fished and haven't bought them for a while.

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Post by Kev Berry » Fri May 18 2018 11:49

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Steve Moore wrote:
Drennan double hooks.
Looking for trebles Steve
Ive got some nice trebles---me and Croc been using them for last year or so----no brand name on them. Tested several to destruction, none have broken they all took a pull that no pike is ever going to make to straighten them. Tied a few traces up for folk on here using them and not had any complaints.
I will send you a couple to try out Andy --- if you want any more then its wallet out time :wink: £2 for ten. I have them in 2's 4's 6's
Have some in red and some silver

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Post by xenia » Fri May 18 2018 13:18

I too like doubles but they are hard to find. Anyone got any good recommendations of on-line availability?

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Post by Stewlaws » Fri May 18 2018 19:45

Sakuma 535 ..pinch 2 barbs 💋

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Post by Mattjb » Sat May 19 2018 06:14

Been using eagle claw 774 trebles for a long time now.cheap and reliable. 4x wire,so strong in the wire but when snagged a size 4 or 6 can be straightened with a straight pull with 65lb braid.
They come barbed so you have to flatten 2 barbs and are difficult to get in the UK but are still cheap even after import duty from the US.
I usually order about 300 at a time and split them with my mate.

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Post by The predator » Sat May 19 2018 07:58

Stewlaws wrote:
Sakuma 535 ..pinch 2 barbs 💋
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Post by Paddy_R » Sat May 19 2018 08:21

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Post by Malc Green » Sat May 19 2018 09:52

Mattjb wrote:
Been using eagle claw 774 trebles for a long time now.cheap and reliable. 4x wire,so strong in the wire but when snagged a size 4 or 6 can be straightened with a straight pull with 65lb braid.
They come barbed so you have to flatten 2 barbs and are difficult to get in the UK but are still cheap even after import duty from the US.
I usually order about 300 at a time and split them with my mate.
+1 also still use Mustad 3551's don't have any problems with either pattern been using them for years even with 65-80lb braid. :thumbs:
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Post by Stewlaws » Sat May 19 2018 12:34

How are you Andy... Reading between the lines not as good as it could be ?

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Post by The predator » Sat May 19 2018 13:25

Stewlaws wrote:
How are you Andy... Reading between the lines not as good as it could be ?
Not really Stew - PM sent
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Post by The predator » Sat May 19 2018 13:34

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How are you Andy... Reading between the lines not as good as it could be ?
Won't let me PM you Stew,so here's a resume:

Yes mate I'm not too well at the moment. I have a bad vitamin D deficiency, so on a high dose of supplements.
Also, very high red blood cell count, so they have decided the way forward is to drain 400ml of blood every week. It's helping a little with the blood count but not as quickly as they would like . Thing is, it's a bloody painful procedure (venesection). Blood test every week to monitor it.
This morning I had a steroid injection in my shoulder - not too painful thankfully.
All in all crap but I think manageable with treatment.
Thanks for asking Stew.
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Post by Slug » Sun May 20 2018 00:16

Steve Moore wrote:
Drennan double hooks.
I thought they were discontinued a few years ago now?

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Post by Nobby C » Sun May 20 2018 08:02

I'm not sure but these might be old/original stock:
https://www.fly-fishing-tackle.co.uk/ac ... hooks.html

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Post by Admau1 » Sun May 20 2018 08:40

Steve Moore wrote:
Drennan double hooks.
I thought they had stopped making the double hooks ??

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Post by zodiac » Sun May 20 2018 08:57

Out of curiosity, what possible advantage does a double hook give? I can't see it myself..
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Post by Steve Moore » Sun May 20 2018 09:36

I find them easier to remove from pike, and I haven't got to carry a rig bin, I just keep them all in a rig wallet.
No major advantages.

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Post by Steve D » Sun May 20 2018 12:40

Partridge x7 have been good for me the last two seasons and also the fox power points.

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Post by xenia » Sun May 20 2018 12:44

Doubles are easier to remove and do very slightly less damage - especially if you are unlucky to get a deep hook hold. As Steve Moore says, they are easier to handle in storage too (great for mobile fishing with rigs in your pocket). They are also easier to deal with in nets - where an exposed treble point can snag in the net. I started using them 2 seasons ago and the hook up rates seem the same. I don't think the difference is massive - I just prefer them now. I'd still use trebles if I had to.
It is also interesting that the salmon lure fishing rules on many rivers are changing to make it mandatory to only use single hooks on lures and spinners. Whilst there has been some debate on how this will reduce hook hold rates (I think it will reduce it in a moving lure) - there have been some great salmon catches on single hook spinners and flying condoms in the last few seasons and plenty of salmon anglers are positive about it. I still use trebles on pike lures.
Because they are not available and some pike anlglers like them, I'm going to investigate getting a batch made and re-selling them. PM me if you are interested.

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Post by andypee » Sun May 20 2018 16:29

I tried the fox strong trebles last season, I was using owner gorilla singles before hand, I can say without doubt the fox trebles passed the test, they were sharp sharp, strong and never let me down, that was my experience anyway !

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Post by piker al » Sun May 20 2018 19:33

andypee wrote:
I tried the fox strong trebles last season, I was using owner gorilla singles before hand, I can say without doubt the fox trebles passed the test, they were sharp sharp, strong and never let me down, that was my experience anyway !

Andy.
Aye the fox Armo point trebles are brilliant,I used them this past season :thumbs:

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Post by Nige Johns » Sun May 20 2018 21:17

Steve D wrote:
Partridge x7 have been good for me the last two seasons and also the fox power points.
X7’s for me as well Steve :thumbs:

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Post by Dennis M » Tue May 22 2018 05:51

can't fault gamakatsu's treble 13b but they're the only readily available hooks over here :shrug:

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Post by Chris b » Tue May 22 2018 08:18

VMC 9649BZ or RD .
Used them for over a decade with no hassles , cheap as chips to buy too if buying 100+

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Post by JackHunter » Tue May 22 2018 10:17

Chris b wrote:
VMC 9649BZ or RD .
Used them for over a decade with no hassles , cheap as chips to buy too if buying 100+
Hi Chris,
Who are you buying these from? I used to buy these and Eagle Claw 954 from McHardys by the 100, but they have gone bust! :sad:

I would recommend Eagle Claw 954 trebles, they are also chip as chips and have never let me down.

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Post by Chris b » Fri May 25 2018 12:43

JackHunter wrote:
Chris b wrote:
VMC 9649BZ or RD .
Used them for over a decade with no hassles , cheap as chips to buy too if buying 100+
Hi Chris,
Who are you buying these from? I used to buy these and Eagle Claw 954 from McHardys by the 100, but they have gone bust! :sad:

I would recommend Eagle Claw 954 trebles, they are also chip as chips and have never let me down.

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They do the eagle claw hooks too m8.
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Post by cookiesdaughtersdad » Fri May 25 2018 15:41

Steve Moore wrote:
I find them easier to remove from pike, and I haven't got to carry a rig bin, I just keep them all in a rig wallet.
No major advantages.
For deadbaiting I used a combo of a single in the tail and a double down the flank last season, not only is it easier to unhook the fish (single does the business most times!), I also found that the hook up ratio improved to 100% :thumbs:

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Post by Nige Johns » Fri May 25 2018 16:04

cookiesdaughtersdad wrote:
Steve Moore wrote:
I find them easier to remove from pike, and I haven't got to carry a rig bin, I just keep them all in a rig wallet.
No major advantages.
For deadbaiting I used a combo of a single in the tail and a double down the flank last season, not only is it easier to unhook the fish (single does the business most times!), I also found that the hook up ratio improved to 100% :thumbs:

Cheers Alan
What singles are you using Al ?

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