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Re: trace wire

Post by dave-newman » Fri Jun 14 2019 09:00

Mike J wrote:
dave-newman wrote:


Buy the AFW if its the same Eddie who sponsors our Forum.
If not go Masons, less money for twice the length.

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i purchase all my AFW from Mr T, but the small spools, now im wanting to bulk it which is going to be more cost effective

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Re: trace wire

Post by martin(rockape) » Fri Jun 14 2019 09:19

Masons for me. Yes after a few scraps it may curl a bit but it's still perfectly good to use.

As for fraying, i believe you mean when you cut the wire?
If thats the case then ensure that you cut the wire in the throat of the scissors not the end you'll get a nice clean cut.

And as already mentioned sleaves or a small piece of shrink tube on the tag end will seal off any fraying and the sharp point(s).

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Re: trace wire

Post by Mike J » Fri Jun 14 2019 09:29

martin(rockape) wrote:
Masons for me. Yes after a few scraps it may curl a bit but it's still perfectly good to use.

As for fraying, i believe you mean when you cut the wire?
If thats the case then ensure that you cut the wire in the throat of the scissors not the end you'll get a nice clean cut.

And as already mentioned sleaves or a small piece of shrink tube on the tag end will seal off any fraying and the sharp point(s).

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The best thing about Masons is you can take the curls out with your fingers, from '80's Tide Cheater and Marlin Steel through to todays wires only Masons allow you to do that.
Its the reason why I have regularly caught 5or6 without needing a change.

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Re: trace wire

Post by martin(rockape) » Fri Jun 14 2019 09:38

Thanks for the tip. But we both know that pike don't care about this its just some of us anglers.

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Re: trace wire

Post by Neil66T » Fri Jun 14 2019 16:00

AFW for me, but i’ve Just been given some ti traces to use for this season, built by Rob Lawrie an RO for Herts PAC region, they look awesome and he does sell them badged as Voodoo traces; looking forward to using them.

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Re: trace wire

Post by Kevin O'Keeffe » Tue Jun 25 2019 12:27

Depends on the presentation I want....

Fishing waters where I don't have any issues getting takes... Nevs ti wire.
When I want more finesse..... AFW surflon micro supreme 7x7 knotted.

http://www.eddieturner.co.uk/pike-tackl ... me-22.html
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Re: trace wire

Post by Richsheff » Wed Sep 11 2019 21:30

Flipflopjoe wrote:
I use Savage gear Raw 49, 35lb. So much more flexible, unkinkable and knotable than the e-sox 7 strand stuff I was using previously. I defo reccomend it :thumbs:
Can i ask what knot you would advise ? Thanks.
Looking for a knottable wire rather than crimps . Have been looking at this savage gear stuff earlier.

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Re: trace wire

Post by Mike J » Thu Sep 12 2019 08:13

Easiest wire to knot is Rio Wire Bite aka AFW 7x7 surflon - nylon covered, very limp, high quality, produced in the USA.

Albright Knot on the reel line to the doubled wire and 5turn Uni-knot the wire to the link/swivel/hook.

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Re: trace wire

Post by Flipflopjoe » Thu Sep 12 2019 12:55

Richsheff wrote:
Flipflopjoe wrote:
I use Savage gear Raw 49, 35lb. So much more flexible, unkinkable and knotable than the e-sox 7 strand stuff I was using previously. I defo reccomend it :thumbs:
Can i ask what knot you would advise ? Thanks.
Looking for a knottable wire rather than crimps . Have been looking at this savage gear stuff earlier.
I don’t even know the name of the knot :laughs:
I’ll try an do a quick sketch of it for you tho !
It’s probably not the best method, some other more experienced fellas might have a better way.

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Re: trace wire

Post by Flipflopjoe » Thu Sep 12 2019 16:57

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When you make the loops around the main line, you’ve got to put the second loop BEHIND the first loop, then when you pass the tag end through the loops, the loops should come apart as a figure of 8 (best I can describe it sorry :scratch: )
Also, you’ve got to pull the knot tight before you slide it down to the link otherwise the wire will curl and kink.
Then just clamp you’re forceps on the tag end and spin them round the main line till they fly off (don’t do it near a window :laughs: ).
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Re: trace wire

Post by fishandy » Thu Sep 12 2019 17:00

afw 49 strand wire knotted crimped or twisted what is best and safest

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Re: trace wire

Post by Mike J » Thu Sep 12 2019 17:23

fishandy wrote:
afw 49 strand wire knotted crimped or twisted what is best and safest
The US produced AFW is certainly the superior wire.

30 plus years ago we could buy bulk spools of high quality US made wire in most good tackle shops, now all thats available are mini spools that cost X5or6 and wont last 'till Christmas on a snaggy place.

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Re: trace wire

Post by Richsheff » Thu Sep 12 2019 17:56

Flipflopjoe wrote:
Richsheff wrote:
Flipflopjoe wrote:
I use Savage gear Raw 49, 35lb. So much more flexible, unkinkable and knotable than the e-sox 7 strand stuff I was using previously. I defo reccomend it :thumbs:
Can i ask what knot you would advise ? Thanks.
Looking for a knottable wire rather than crimps . Have been looking at this savage gear stuff earlier.
I don’t even know the name of the knot :laughs:
I’ll try an do a quick sketch of it for you tho !
It’s probably not the best method, some other more experienced fellas might have a better way.
Great. Thanks !

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Re: trace wire

Post by Kev Berry » Thu Sep 12 2019 19:31

fishandy wrote:
afw 49 strand wire knotted crimped or twisted what is best and safest
You cant twist it.
Crimp it for a loop or swivel knot less knot the hook

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Re: trace wire

Post by fishandy » Sat Sep 14 2019 17:31

just visited the ET site and he has a new 13lb wire, anyone tried it too light for pike , but maybe ideal for perch

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Re: trace wire

Post by Flipflopjoe » Sat Sep 14 2019 19:24

fishandy wrote:
just visited the ET site and he has a new 13lb wire, anyone tried it too light for pike , but maybe ideal for perch
I use drennan e-sox super soft wire in 10lb for perch. Probably a total fluke but I landed a 22lb pike on it :laughs:

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Re: trace wire

Post by fishandy » Sun Sep 15 2019 12:19

used the Drennan 12lb green wire, but the perch don't like it lots of dinks on the rod end but few proper runs ,a change to any sort of braid and the takes are all unmissable sail aways ,currently experimenting with a short biting trace of a few inches tied to braid, always worried about pike grabbing the bait and biting me off , using circle hooks fished , bolt rig style,all perch are hooked in corner of their mouths, not had any pike yet but hoping for the same hook hold .I keep reading about braid like wire but when I use them the all seem like thin wire to me hoping for better from ET this time ,sent a message about what size of crimp to use with the 13lb wire but not heard back yet

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Re: trace wire

Post by Barndog » Wed Sep 25 2019 10:52

Just a note on Eddie Turner. I ordered 49 strand wire from him last week, but received 7 strand (mistakes happen). E-mailed him on Monday morning, got a reply within an hour and received the correct wire in the post on Wednesday. He even told me to hold on to the 7 strand wire. Excellent customer service. Will use him again.

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Re: trace wire

Post by steve wild » Wed Sep 25 2019 19:15

I have been using the 49 stand wire from Palmer metals uk company (9kg breaking strain .015) 30 ft for £15
Also use the (12kg breaking strain .018) at £12.36p for 30ft .Free delivery if you spend over £25.
It comes from the same U.S factory as AFW only difference it is called beading wire and is a bright colour.
You can also buy bit in 100ft and 1000ft lengths.
Been using it a few years now and never had any problems at all.
Check it out here. https://www.palmermetals.co.uk/shop/str ... -wire.html

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Re: trace wire

Post by Kevin O'Keeffe » Thu Sep 26 2019 14:00

Crimping it Steve?

How bright is "bright"... pics show it dark in colour?

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Re: trace wire

Post by steve wild » Thu Sep 26 2019 15:03

They call it bright but it is a dullish greyish colour.Never crimped it I use no knot and figure 8 knot .
Pm me your address and i will send you a piece for you to look at.

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Re: trace wire

Post by Kevin O'Keeffe » Fri Sep 27 2019 12:55

Thanks Steve - I use same knots with the AFW micro supreme. Works for me. PM incoming.
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Re: trace wire

Post by Cod » Tue Oct 01 2019 09:18

I am using Cahira Nitinol wire at the moment, looks, feels great.

www.cahiranitinol.co.uk

They have a full range of ready made traces, or the material to make your own.
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Re: trace wire

Post by fishandy » Fri Oct 04 2019 16:25

hi cod just seen cahira nitinol in 6lb for chub perch and eels ,have you or any other pikers used any ,the advert says easily knotted with a 3 turn blood knot

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Re: trace wire

Post by Cod » Fri Oct 04 2019 19:22

fishandy wrote:
hi cod just seen cahira nitinol in 6lb for chub perch and eels ,have you or any other pikers used any ,the advert says easily knotted with a 3 turn blood knot
Andy,

Haven't used the 6lb wire, only the 42lb. Have been very pleased with results.

I have seen the 6lb knotted by the seller ( Andy Garner ), it was easily knotted by him.

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Re: trace wire

Post by Renrag39 » Sat Oct 05 2019 08:07

fishandy wrote:
hi cod just seen cahira nitinol in 6lb for chub perch and eels ,have you or any other pikers used any ,the advert says easily knotted with a 3 turn blood knot
Hi Andy. A 3t bloodknot will do you well with the single strand 6lb, 12lb and 21lb. I personally only knot these gauges for my own use. You can even knot the 40lb at a push but it's not the prettiest and bulkier than crimping from here on up.
Both multistrands knot brilliantly too.

Regards,
Andy Garner. Chief WireMonkey. :cool:

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Re: trace wire

Post by fishandy » Sat Oct 05 2019 13:28

thanks for the information chaps ,will give it a try ,if the river ever gets back to a normal level

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Re: trace wire

Post by Huggs » Thu Oct 17 2019 07:03

Renrag39 wrote:
fishandy wrote:
hi cod just seen cahira nitinol in 6lb for chub perch and eels ,have you or any other pikers used any ,the advert says easily knotted with a 3 turn blood knot
Hi Andy. A 3t bloodknot will do you well with the single strand 6lb, 12lb and 21lb. I personally only knot these gauges for my own use. You can even knot the 40lb at a push but it's not the prettiest and bulkier than crimping from here on up.
Both multistrands knot brilliantly too.

Regards,
Andy Garner. Chief WireMonkey. :cool:
Tried the ready made traces but found with the split ring set up for hook change i am unable to hook baits (deads) as i normally would.

I have to put trebles closer together so top hook will take weight of cast in root of tail.

Gone back to my normal wire for now.

Nice product though.

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