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Restoration and recalibrate Avon scales

Post by Mike J » Mon Aug 12 2019 22:47

New project; a pair of 40lb scales, left hanging in a bankside tree since February by a poacher.
Rusty, bent needle, lense scratched and cloudy, all screws and nuts seized, springs operating, reading 8oz light.

Anybody completed such a restoration, or re-polished the plastic lense?

So far I have;
Removed the hook and handle
Separated the two parts of the body
Removed the plastic sheet on the back
Removed the metal sheet supporting the lense
Removed the plastic lense
Freed off both balance spring screws and zeroing wheel

Nothing inside is worn, a few parts slightly bent so a distinct possibility of continued service if they can be restored, recalibrated and the lense cleared.
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Re: Restoration and recalibrate Avon scales

Post by Fastliner » Mon Aug 12 2019 23:03

This product is very good for removing the cloudy appearance on the plastic dial lenses,

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/car-c ... s-plast-rx

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Re: Restoration and recalibrate Avon scales

Post by Mike J » Tue Aug 13 2019 07:31

Fastliner wrote:
This product is very good for removing the cloudy appearance on the plastic dial lenses,

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/car-c ... s-plast-rx

Thanks for the advice. :thumbs:
I actually use Meguiars products on my car and find them superb.

Lense cleaning cont'd;
Just using products I have around the house and cotton buds.
First Hob Bright - it removed the ingrained dirt cut but not surface misting.
Next Jewellers Silver Polish on half the lense - even after five mins the clarity had improved enough to read the numbers.
My final test will be T Cut - on a very small side area incase its to abrasive.

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Post by Kev Berry » Tue Aug 13 2019 07:42

Mike J wrote:
Fastliner wrote:
This product is very good for removing the cloudy appearance on the plastic dial lenses,

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/car-c ... s-plast-rx

Thanks for the advice. :thumbs:
I actually use Meguiars products on my car and find them superb.

Lense cleaning cont'd;
Just using products I have around the house and cotton buds.
First Hob Bright - it removed the ingrained dirt cut but not surface misting.
Next Jewellers Silver Polish on half the lense - even after five mins the clarity had improved enough to read the numbers.
My final test will be T Cut - on a very small side area incase its to abrasive.
Try toothpaste mike

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Re: Restoration and recalibrate Avon scales

Post by Slug » Tue Aug 13 2019 07:58

You can have them serviced and calibrated. Had an old set of reubons that came back like new and received exceptional costumer service. I think with the Avon’s you can’t get the lens and case replaced though just the internals.
Car headlight polishes work. I’d get some of that. T-cut has a lot of fillers so the effect might not last long.
Wd-40 works temporarily untill it washes off.

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Re: Restoration and recalibrate Avon scales

Post by Mike J » Tue Aug 13 2019 08:10

Thanks Kev, I will give toothpaste a try.
Slug, Im just trying to see what I can achieve without spending lots of money (Del and I have lots in common).

The internal metal case is galvanised but still has lots of surface corrosion, anyone with advice on how to prep it for painting?

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Post by davelumb » Tue Aug 13 2019 08:25

Mike, I am disappointed to see you misspell 'lens'. :giggle:

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Re: Restoration and recalibrate Avon scales

Post by Mike J » Tue Aug 13 2019 08:34

davelumb wrote:
Mike, I am disappointed to see you misspell 'lens'. :giggle:

You know Dave when I tyoed it I knew it was incorrect but to tired and lazy to chack it!

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Post by davelumb » Tue Aug 13 2019 08:51

Mike J wrote:
davelumb wrote:
Mike, I am disappointed to see you misspell 'lens'. :giggle:

You know Dave when I tyoed it I knew it was incorrect but to tired and lazy to chack it!

:grin:
I'll let you off. :smile: It just drives me nuts on a photography forum, where you'd imagine everyone would know how to spell it! :roll:

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Post by Matty » Tue Aug 13 2019 09:06

If you’re trying to clean up and polish the clear lense then brasso works a treat, used it on yellowed car headlights to restore them back to clear, I had the brasso impregnated wadding. Google it for more info :thumbs:

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Thanks Kev, I will give toothpaste a try.
Slug, Im just trying to see what I can achieve without spending lots of money (Del and I have lots in common).

The internal metal case is galvanised but still has lots of surface corrosion, anyone with advice on how to prep it for painting?

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Post by Mike J » Tue Aug 13 2019 09:44

Matty wrote:
If you’re trying to clean up and polish the clear lense then brasso works a treat, used it on yellowed car headlights to restore them back to clear, I had the brasso impregnated wadding. Google it for more info :thumbs:

Mike J wrote:
Thanks Kev, I will give toothpaste a try.
Slug, Im just trying to see what I can achieve without spending lots of money (Del and I have lots in common).

The internal metal case is galvanised but still has lots of surface corrosion, anyone with advice on how to prep it for painting?


Thanks Matt, I would but I dont have any Brasso in my shed.

As a toolmaker I used Brasso to hand polish plastic moulds, as an apprentice I was given clear perspex delibrately scratched by the charge-hand inorder to learn the correct techniques.
Brasso is also the go-to when running-in a new centrepin.

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Post by Nige Johns » Tue Aug 13 2019 11:10

Another vote for toothpaste

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Post by Fastliner » Tue Aug 13 2019 11:17

Mike J wrote:
Fastliner wrote:
This product is very good for removing the cloudy appearance on the plastic dial lenses,

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/car-c ... s-plast-rx

Thanks for the advice. :thumbs:
I actually use Meguiars products on my car and find them superb.

Lense cleaning cont'd;
Just using products I have around the house and cotton buds.
First Hob Bright - it removed the ingrained dirt cut but not surface misting.
Next Jewellers Silver Polish on half the lense - even after five mins the clarity had improved enough to read the numbers.
My final test will be T Cut - on a very small side area incase its to abrasive.
No bother Meguiars Products are very good :thumbs:

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Re: Restoration and recalibrate Avon scales

Post by Mike J » Thu Aug 15 2019 10:06

Any advice on repainting the galvanised metal framework?

Scraped, sanded and dried over a gas ring so now ready for ??????

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Post by Slug » Thu Aug 15 2019 11:37

You can get specialised paint or primer for galvanised metal but does it need painting?

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Post by ChrisWales » Thu Aug 15 2019 12:25

davelumb wrote:
Mike J wrote:
davelumb wrote:
Mike, I am disappointed to see you misspell 'lens'. :giggle:

You know Dave when I tyoed it I knew it was incorrect but to tired and lazy to chack it!

:grin:
I'll let you off. :smile: It just drives me nuts on a photography forum, where you'd imagine everyone would know how to spell it! :roll:
You are setting my "bought/brought" tic off :)

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Post by davelumb » Thu Aug 15 2019 12:35

ChrisWales wrote:
davelumb wrote:
Mike J wrote:
davelumb wrote:
Mike, I am disappointed to see you misspell 'lens'. :giggle:

You know Dave when I tyoed it I knew it was incorrect but to tired and lazy to chack it!

:grin:
I'll let you off. :smile: It just drives me nuts on a photography forum, where you'd imagine everyone would know how to spell it! :roll:
You are setting my "bought/brought" tic off :)
I have that too! :laughs:

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Post by Kev Berry » Thu Aug 15 2019 14:20

Mike J wrote:
Any advice on repainting the galvanised metal framework?

Scraped, sanded and dried over a gas ring so now ready for ??????
galvanised paint ----comes in a spray tin Mike

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Post by Crackoff » Fri Aug 16 2019 10:19

Mike go on youtube for this different grades of wet and dry.

When you have cleaned the clear plastic cover paint it with clear lacker to stop it from tarnishing again :thumbs:

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Post by Mike J » Sat Aug 17 2019 09:47

Crackoff wrote:
Mike go on youtube for this different grades of wet and dry.

When you have cleaned the clear plastic cover paint it with clear lacker to stop it from tarnishing again :thumbs:

Grant :smile:



B hell Grant you, me and this post will give Dave a seizure! :shoot:

Actually I was planning to use rod epoxy not lacquer.

Now found some liquid Brasso so thats next up :grin:

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Post by Mike J » Sun Aug 18 2019 10:30

The lens is now crystal clear.
Method
Gentle clean with 1200 grade wet&dry followed by 20min polish with Brasso on a 1/2" pad of kitchen paper.

Finally completed the disassembly of the internals following 4days soak in WD40.
Inside
The brass rack is held against the steel pinion gear (on the dial spindle) by a 1/4" x 1" piece of .010" spring steel, this had rusted right through so needs replacing. Any water running down the hook stem goes straight into this area, something for all Avon users to take note.
All the brass components were badly tarnished and time consuming to clean.

The stripped frame after being heated on a gas ring and scraped with a blade.
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Post by Mike J » Wed Oct 16 2019 21:12

Continued.
The corroded leaf spring was replaced with a self made plastic spring of similar weight.
The metal body had +30% surface corrosion, wire brushing and heating cleaned it up, before spray painting with (yellow) enamel.
After reassembly and fitting the handle and hook the mechanism was checked, readjusted and found to weigh true throughout its range.
Finally double sided tape was used to re-attach the plastic sheet to the back plate.

Anyone considering the above restoration should first ensure they have the tools to remove the two thin nuts that are beneath the dial, there is very little space to operate and a BA or thin metric spanner is required.
If the fasteners under the dail cannot be removed, the second option is to ensure the two screws that are at the top of the two springs are free and well
lubricated, followed by reassemble into the plastic case and recalibration.

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Post by BillCollins » Wed Oct 16 2019 22:25

As I got older I just found the dial on my 40lb Avon's a bit too fiddly to read in a fishing situation. Back in 2013 I stripped and cleaned them, then handed them into the Legal Metrology Dept in Galway for testing across their range, which they passed with flying colours. They have never been fishing since, they now live in a padded case on a shelf in my tackle room where they will live for the rest of their life (or mine). From time to time they get hung from the tripod to test my 2 Reuben Flyweights, which have been fully accurate in the 5 years or so that I've had them.

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Post by Mike J » Thu Oct 17 2019 09:40

Same as these Bill.
I thought it would be a good project to see if they were restorable even though I would never use them, more a one in the eye for the original owner.

I still carry my ancient Avon 8s forever hopful will pass the magic 3 before I move on.

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Post by Biggthepool » Thu Oct 17 2019 22:14

Brilliant work mike 👍👍 can anyone give me a link off we’re I can send my Avon’s to for refurbished and also rough price

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Post by Nige Johns » Fri Oct 18 2019 07:56

Biggthepool wrote:
Brilliant work mike 👍👍 can anyone give me a link off we’re I can send my Avon’s to for refurbished and also rough price
Sent mine to Reuben Heaton for service and calibration,think it was £12

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Post by Mike J » Fri Oct 18 2019 09:41

Biggthepool wrote:
Brilliant work mike 👍👍 can anyone give me a link off we’re I can send my Avon’s to for refurbished and also rough price

Do it yourself.
Its not rocket science, give yourself 1/2hr and don't rush.
They are very basic inside, just mechanics, nuts and bolts, a single press in rivet and two simple linkages.
Try this;
Remove the handle by spreading each side outwards, then remove and 4 side screws and take the white plastic cover off.
Take care with the dial and needle, they are alluminium and will bend if manhandled.
Free off the two bolts that are at the top of the two balance springs, then try the scales for accuracy against a known weight (it doesn't have to be 30lb :grin: )
When the bolts can be adjusted to calibrate the two springs your good to go. (And you owe the Forum a fiver).
Simples :thumbs:

If you get stuck or want to do more just ask.

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Re: Restoration and recalibrate Avon scales

Post by Luce-wizard » Sat Oct 19 2019 20:40

Nice work👍🏻 Some times it’s nice doing something like this that get new 😁
You could be just 1 cast away from a fish of your dreams :clap:

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