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Guard dogs

Post by Danoutdoors » Fri Sep 06 2019 16:38

What breeds have you had? Did they deter thieves? I’m wanting one to live outside in a kennel also be good and trustworthy with my family, just toying with the idea, thanks

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Re: Guard dogs

Post by Mercman » Fri Sep 06 2019 18:12

German Shepard had two one after the other, both guarded their territory well.
Delboy is actually only 65 years old, I had to confess!

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Post by suffolk si » Fri Sep 06 2019 18:34

As above or a nice big rotty, both very nice intelligent dogs but still scary enough to deter undesirables. Have had both and thought they were both fantastic dogs

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Post by Mike J » Fri Sep 06 2019 18:54

A collie, a spaniel and nine terriers.
Three of the terriers were loose and slept in a old beer barrel by the back door, when some nightwalkers tried to nick the batteries of our RB dragline parked 80yards away they were sent packing leaving the batteries stood on the track.
It didnt stop them coming and they eventually killed one.
A 100% answer to the problem of nightwalkers came from our local bobby but Im not mentioning it publicly.

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Post by Jeffire » Fri Sep 06 2019 19:56

Used to breed and show german shepherds , trained properly they will guard to the death , Belgian shepherds are the same but more agile, unfortunately they can all be killed very easily !

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Post by Kev Berry » Fri Sep 06 2019 21:50

You want one of these, top one is dad to the 5 month pup we imported below (which almost nailed Alan when he passed Christine a cuppa :laughs: ).
Good family dogs, but you need to know how to handle big dogs. Will guard you, your family, especially kids, and your property to the death without training.
Not a dog to be left out on its own if you expect people it doesn't know coming round.
These dogs will see people cocking a leg over your fence long before they see them, and will be waiting .
Used by Russian military. They have the strongest bite of any dog. Will happily live outside in temps down to minus 30.
The two I had didn't want to sleep inside or even in the barn, they just laid out in the open or at best under a bush no matter what the weather was

Had Neapolitan mastiffs as well, another brilliant family dog, very good guard, looks deceptively slow and sluggish at times but can turn from a gentle giant onto a raving demon that's faster than a fast thing if someone presses the wrong button, its not a dog you want to be on the wrong side of the fence with if you shouldn't be there .

I had rotties before people knew what they were, 40 years ago they were massive dogs, very good with family and very defensive, tendency to bark at intruders first unlike ovcharka's and neos who will eat first ask questions later, again not a first timers dog
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Post by Jeffire » Sat Sep 07 2019 04:13

Wouldnt like the bill for feeding that or cleaning up after it !

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Post by Danoutdoors » Sat Sep 07 2019 08:13

Kev Berry wrote: ↑
You want one of these, top one is dad to the 5 month pup we imported below (which almost nailed Alan when he passed Christine a cuppa :laughs: ).
Good family dogs, but you need to know how to handle big dogs. Will guard you, your family, especially kids, and your property to the death without training.
Not a dog to be left out on its own if you expect people it doesn't know coming round.
These dogs will see people cocking a leg over your fence long before they see them, and will be waiting .
Used by Russian military. They have the strongest bite of any dog. Will happily live outside in temps down to minus 30.
The two I had didn't want to sleep inside or even in the barn, they just laid out in the open or at best under a bush no matter what the weather was

Had Neapolitan mastiffs as well, another brilliant family dog, very good guard, looks deceptively slow and sluggish at times but can turn from a gentle giant onto a raving demon that's faster than a fast thing if someone presses the wrong button, its not a dog you want to be on the wrong side of the fence with if you shouldn't be there .

I had rotties before people knew what they were, 40 years ago they were massive dogs, very good with family and very defensive, tendency to bark at intruders first unlike ovcharka's and neos who will eat first ask questions later, again not a first timers dog
Amazing! I bet when you went out in the morning you were half expecting a few human limbs left and a dog with a full stomach.

Sound like fantastic dogs πŸ‘

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Post by Kev Berry » Sat Sep 07 2019 09:40

Jeffire wrote: ↑
Wouldnt like the bill for feeding that or cleaning up after it !
Fed on raw chicken carcases and fallen stock beef, used to cost me less than a fiver a week to feed 20 dogs---and you don't get anywhere near the amount of dog s**t feeding raw as you do the commercial feeds


of course the odd careless burglar kept the bills down :laughs:

this is the only guard dog I have now :laughs: , and she does guard but doesn't have the aggression (the milkman might disagree cos she hates him for some reason, must be a wrong un cos dogs can tell)
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Post by Jeffire » Sat Sep 07 2019 09:46

davelumb wrote: ↑
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You,ve always made me laugh , but i think you therapy.

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Post by Danoutdoors » Sat Sep 07 2019 11:45

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I’ve read about them, don’t they take the intruder out at the ankle then when immobilised they go for the throat ?! πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ‘πŸ‘

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Danoutdoors wrote: ↑
davelumb wrote: ↑
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I’ve read about them, don’t they take the intruder out at the ankle then when immobilised they go for the throat ?! πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ‘πŸ‘
Intruders die laughing.
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Post by Steve Le maitre » Sat Sep 07 2019 20:47

davelumb wrote: ↑
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The thing looks like it’s got a bad bout of constipation, real bad. If any burglar happened to sh*** himself coming face to face with that thing it’d be one jealous dog !

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Post by alan behenna » Sun Sep 08 2019 08:26

Kev Berry wrote: ↑
You want one of these, top one is dad to the 5 month pup we imported below (which almost nailed Alan when he passed Christine a cuppa :laughs: ).
Good family dogs, but you need to know how to handle big dogs. Will guard you, your family, especially kids, and your property to the death without training.
Not a dog to be left out on its own if you expect people it doesn't know coming round.
These dogs will see people cocking a leg over your fence long before they see them, and will be waiting .
Used by Russian military. They have the strongest bite of any dog. Will happily live outside in temps down to minus 30.
The two I had didn't want to sleep inside or even in the barn, they just laid out in the open or at best under a bush no matter what the weather was

Had Neapolitan mastiffs as well, another brilliant family dog, very good guard, looks deceptively slow and sluggish at times but can turn from a gentle giant onto a raving demon that's faster than a fast thing if someone presses the wrong button, its not a dog you want to be on the wrong side of the fence with if you shouldn't be there .

I had rotties before people knew what they were, 40 years ago they were massive dogs, very good with family and very defensive, tendency to bark at intruders first unlike ovcharka's and neos who will eat first ask questions later, again not a first timers dog

That's NOT a dog Kev, it's a Horse with teeth!

Strewth, if it was coming for you and showing a dislike, it would be time to be "extremely worried" (brown trousers).

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Post by wid » Sun Sep 08 2019 15:49

Kev Berry wrote: ↑
You want one of these, top one is dad to the 5 month pup we imported below (which almost nailed Alan when he passed Christine a cuppa :laughs: ).
Good family dogs, but you need to know how to handle big dogs. Will guard you, your family, especially kids, and your property to the death without training.
Not a dog to be left out on its own if you expect people it doesn't know coming round.
These dogs will see people cocking a leg over your fence long before they see them, and will be waiting .
Used by Russian military. They have the strongest bite of any dog. Will happily live outside in temps down to minus 30.
The two I had didn't want to sleep inside or even in the barn, they just laid out in the open or at best under a bush no matter what the weather was

Had Neapolitan mastiffs as well, another brilliant family dog, very good guard, looks deceptively slow and sluggish at times but can turn from a gentle giant onto a raving demon that's faster than a fast thing if someone presses the wrong button, its not a dog you want to be on the wrong side of the fence with if you shouldn't be there .

I had rotties before people knew what they were, 40 years ago they were massive dogs, very good with family and very defensive, tendency to bark at intruders first unlike ovcharka's and neos who will eat first ask questions later, again not a first timers dog
Roughly how heavy is that dog kev, it looks huge

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Post by Kev Berry » Sun Sep 08 2019 16:14

wid wrote: ↑
Kev Berry wrote: ↑
You want one of these, top one is dad to the 5 month pup we imported below (which almost nailed Alan when he passed Christine a cuppa :laughs: ).
Good family dogs, but you need to know how to handle big dogs. Will guard you, your family, especially kids, and your property to the death without training.
Not a dog to be left out on its own if you expect people it doesn't know coming round.
These dogs will see people cocking a leg over your fence long before they see them, and will be waiting .
Used by Russian military. They have the strongest bite of any dog. Will happily live outside in temps down to minus 30.
The two I had didn't want to sleep inside or even in the barn, they just laid out in the open or at best under a bush no matter what the weather was

Had Neapolitan mastiffs as well, another brilliant family dog, very good guard, looks deceptively slow and sluggish at times but can turn from a gentle giant onto a raving demon that's faster than a fast thing if someone presses the wrong button, its not a dog you want to be on the wrong side of the fence with if you shouldn't be there .

I had rotties before people knew what they were, 40 years ago they were massive dogs, very good with family and very defensive, tendency to bark at intruders first unlike ovcharka's and neos who will eat first ask questions later, again not a first timers dog
Roughly how heavy is that dog kev, it looks huge
Helluva lot of fur but they can top over 200lbs

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Post by Steve Dennington » Sun Sep 08 2019 19:57

Mercman wrote: ↑
German Shepard had two one after the other, both guarded their territory well.
Mine is now four years old and has barked at quite literally nobody, not even the postman. Pretty much the only time she barks is at hooting owls, and also the gurgling of the drain, for some odd reason. Definitely not a candidate for Guard Dog of the Year! :laughs:

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Steve Dennington wrote: ↑
Mercman wrote: ↑
German Shepard had two one after the other, both guarded their territory well.
Mine is now four years old and has barked at quite literally nobody, not even the postman. Pretty much the only time she barks is at hooting owls, and also the gurgling of the drain, for some odd reason. Definitely not a candidate for Guard Dog of the Year! :laughs:
Mine died about 3 weeks ago Steve. We have a large wrought Iron gate across our drive. The drive is gravel and if anyone came up it she would go absolutely mental chucking herself at the gate and barking non stop. The postman and regular delivery drivers knew so just kept back from the the She never bit anyone ever.
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Post by Mike J » Mon Sep 09 2019 09:39

The worst dogs are the ones that don't bark at all.
They are the ones that really enjoy the bite and barking only alerts the target before they get there.

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Post by Danoutdoors » Mon Sep 09 2019 09:47

Mike J wrote: ↑
The worst dogs are the ones that don't bark at all.
They are the ones that really enjoy the bite and barking only alerts the target before they get there.
They sound like the best ones Mike! 🀣 worth having cctv just to watch a show reel every Christmas

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Re: Guard dogs

Post by dave-newman » Mon Sep 09 2019 10:14

German Shep
rotty
dobe

any of the above.. i have a shep

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Post by Mike J » Mon Sep 09 2019 10:16

Okay, enough of the frivolity, the nights are drawing in and its time to get serious.

Dan, check these out https://www.ant-supplies.uk/bits-and-bo ... mines.html

You can buy the units or make them yourself and the 12bore charge works out at Β£2/shot.
Screwed to a tree or building they cannot be stolen and are strong enough to withstand vandalism.

When an intruder has one go off alongside the last thing they're thinking is what they can steal.

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Re: Guard dogs

Post by Danoutdoors » Mon Sep 09 2019 11:02

Oh yes that should raise a few pulses πŸ‘

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Post by Kev Berry » Mon Sep 09 2019 12:00

Mike J wrote: ↑
The worst dogs are the ones that don't bark at all.
They are the ones that really enjoy the bite and barking only alerts the target before they get there.
they just doing their job Mike. The ovcharkas guarding sheep against wolves don't always bark. The young ones that live amongst the sheep might bark as they not big enough to tackle wolves, but the older ones that live up in the hills watching don't. They just turn up and silently do their job.
When I had a small farm there were always a few young neo's running loose. One day I saw two of them in stealth mode, creeping along just like lions do using every bit of cover to get to the gate without being seen, one from each side. Then they just crouched down waiting. Suddenly I saw what was going on, there were 2 walkers coming up the track to the farm, and they had been seen by the dogs. I ran out shouting and saved their bacon. (they thought it was a public right of way)
There is no doubt these two young dogs (both under 12 months)were going to give them what for, they had no training whatsoever in guarding, they were show dogs and regularly came into contact with thousands of people who were strangers with no biting incidents at all.
They had never learned to "enjoy biting" as they had never bit anyone ---just natural guarding instinct. No predator reveals itself by making a noise before attack, most dogs bark because they CANT get at whoever they are barking at.

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